Backup all your good data first.
Wait, what? Most people's first experience with the Terminal is if they ever try a linux distro like Ubuntu. Cut him some slack, I sure as hell didn't know much when I installed my first distro. Took some learning, and the best way to do that is by diving straight in.Zimmer wrote:
Dude. You jump into linux and you don't know how to use the Terminal? Come on. This is just pathetic. You have no idea what you have just gotten yourself into.
Programs -> Terminal and type in the shit line by line
Fin: Read a couple of these for help. Second one is more textbook-y and has more, but it's all terminal commands that you ought to learn eventually.
Installing Ubuntu and handing it to Ma and Pa is fine, they use the included browser, included mail client, included media player, so on and so forth. To do explicitly what you want it to do though is a bit trickier and learning how was the best part for me.
Yes, if you don't master the Terminal the one and only thing you will be installing is Linux distro itself and it will stay with that.Zimmer wrote:
Dude. You jump into linux and you don't know how to use the Terminal? Come on. This is just pathetic. You have no idea what you have just gotten yourself into.Finray wrote:
I went Places > 80GB Media and it says unable to mount drive.. any help?
Also, can't get XFire to work.. this looks to be a pretty good guide, but where do I input the codes?
Programs -> Terminal and type in the shit line by line
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
Hmm comparing installation of files in Windows and Linux? Are you sure you want to do that?mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
I'm just saying its not easy. I had to Google a lot to be able to install a simple audio player. But poor driver performance drove me away from Linux. I hope Finny likes it and manages to work with it.
The thing is that people think Linux behaves like Windows. Anyone can do anything in Linux, it isn't hard, but it's so time-consuming that most people just find it pointless.mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
It has nothing to do with installation or ease of use. People are writing him off for not knowing how Linux works before trying it, and I'm saying that I bet that most of you guys didn't know how Windows worked before trying it, either..Sup wrote:
Hmm comparing installation of files in Windows and Linux? Are you sure you want to do that?mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
I'm just saying its not easy. I had to Google a lot to be able to install a simple audio player. But poor driver performance drove me away from Linux. I hope Finny likes it and manages to work with it.
So what? It doesn't preclude the ability to learn new things. Writing a person off for not knowing in advance the things he intends to learn is somewhat stupid.Freezer7Pro wrote:
The thing is that people think Linux behaves like Windows. Anyone can do anything in Linux, it isn't hard, but it's so time-consuming that most people just find it pointless.mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
The thing is that we know Finny. It would result in disaster.mikkel wrote:
So what? It doesn't preclude the ability to learn new things. Writing a person off for not knowing in advance the things he intends to learn is somewhat stupid.Freezer7Pro wrote:
The thing is that people think Linux behaves like Windows. Anyone can do anything in Linux, it isn't hard, but it's so time-consuming that most people just find it pointless.mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
I for one think it's a good thing he's trying something new.
Cut the antieffort/elitism shite pretty please.
Cut the antieffort/elitism shite pretty please.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
I've tech supported Finny enough to know what will happen.FatherTed wrote:
I for one think it's a good thing he's trying something new.
Cut the antieffort/elitism shite pretty please.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Well not everyone is as godlike with tech as you, dear Freezer.Freezer7Pro wrote:
The thing is that we know Finny. It would result in disaster.mikkel wrote:
So what? It doesn't preclude the ability to learn new things. Writing a person off for not knowing in advance the things he intends to learn is somewhat stupid.Freezer7Pro wrote:
The thing is that people think Linux behaves like Windows. Anyone can do anything in Linux, it isn't hard, but it's so time-consuming that most people just find it pointless.
Yeah, first 3 times I tried to go Linux, I installed it, tried to do something other than the got confused, went back to windows within 3 hours..Sup wrote:
Hmm comparing installation of files in Windows and Linux? Are you sure you want to do that?mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
I'm just saying its not easy. I had to Google a lot to be able to install a simple audio player. But poor driver performance drove me away from Linux. I hope Finny likes it and manages to work with it.
Then came my server, and a linux-advanced friend of mine walked me through the billion and one questions of how the terminal works, what can and can't be done, and how it's to be done, and so on.
(Then he showed me Webmin and WinSCP and I re-forgot all the commands)
But yeah, I don't see myself going pure linux any time soon, and the idea of Dual-booting boggles me(Feels funky having to install everything twice, and having to wait like 5 minutes to boot into the other OS if I need some other app.)
Yeah, I'm kind of the same way.TheDonkey wrote:
Yeah, first 3 times I tried to go Linux, I installed it, tried to do something other than the got confused, went back to windows within 3 hours..Sup wrote:
Hmm comparing installation of files in Windows and Linux? Are you sure you want to do that?mikkel wrote:
How many of you knew how to work Windows the first time you used it? Give the man a break. You're making yourselves look stupid.
I'm just saying its not easy. I had to Google a lot to be able to install a simple audio player. But poor driver performance drove me away from Linux. I hope Finny likes it and manages to work with it.
Then came my server, and a linux-advanced friend of mine walked me through the billion and one questions of how the terminal works, what can and can't be done, and how it's to be done, and so on.
(Then he showed me Webmin and WinSCP and I re-forgot all the commands)
But yeah, I don't see myself going pure linux any time soon, and the idea of Dual-booting boggles me(Feels funky having to install everything twice, and having to wait like 5 minutes to boot into the other OS if I need some other app.)
I keep trying to force myself to go to Linux, just to learn it inside-and-out...for whatever purpose.
But every time I do, I run into some annoyingly retarded problem, and remember that I have no real use for Linux and so don't bother fucking with it.
to mount the drive do:Finray wrote:
I went Places > 80GB Media and it says unable to mount drive.. any help?
Also, can't get XFire to work.. this looks to be a pretty good guide, but where do I input the codes?
Code:
sudo fdisk -l
then do
Code:
sudo mkdir /media/mount/
Code:
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mount/ -o force
As with xfire, just go here http://gfire.site40.net/?page_id=24, and download the .deb and double click it, then install, then restart pidgin and you've got xfire.
Or by just editing the fstab for it to do it automaticallySydney wrote:
to mount the drive do:Finray wrote:
I went Places > 80GB Media and it says unable to mount drive.. any help?
Also, can't get XFire to work.. this looks to be a pretty good guide, but where do I input the codes?then find what the location of your disk is, usually something like /dev/sda1/Code:
sudo fdisk -l
then doCode:
sudo mkdir /media/mount/You only have to do this when NTFS drives aren't shut down properly.Code:
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mount/ -o force
As with xfire, just go here http://gfire.site40.net/?page_id=24, and download the .deb and double click it, then install, then restart pidgin and you've got xfire.
thisZimmer wrote:
Dude. You jump into linux and you don't know how to use the Terminal? Come on. This is just pathetic. You have no idea what you have just gotten yourself into.Finray wrote:
I went Places > 80GB Media and it says unable to mount drive.. any help?
Also, can't get XFire to work.. this looks to be a pretty good guide, but where do I input the codes?
Programs -> Terminal and type in the shit line by line
lawl ubuntu
try fedora tbh, it's awsm
infact expect a post from me in a few hours about how to get my goddam wireless to work in fedora, lawl
try fedora tbh, it's awsm
infact expect a post from me in a few hours about how to get my goddam wireless to work in fedora, lawl
I've tried both, and I like Ubuntu way moreJoshP wrote:
lawl ubuntu
try fedora tbh, it's awsm
infact expect a post from me in a few hours about how to get my goddam wireless to work in fedora, lawl
Debian > Redhat
Problem was, he had an unclean shutdown, so he needed to force-mount it.Yaocelotl wrote:
Or by just editing the fstab for it to do it automaticallySydney wrote:
to mount the drive do:Finray wrote:
I went Places > 80GB Media and it says unable to mount drive.. any help?
Also, can't get XFire to work.. this looks to be a pretty good guide, but where do I input the codes?then find what the location of your disk is, usually something like /dev/sda1/Code:
sudo fdisk -l
then doCode:
sudo mkdir /media/mount/You only have to do this when NTFS drives aren't shut down properly.Code:
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/mount/ -o force
As with xfire, just go here http://gfire.site40.net/?page_id=24, and download the .deb and double click it, then install, then restart pidgin and you've got xfire.
If he shuts down windows clean, he can just go to places > hard drive, I fstabed mine though.
Code:
sudo mkdir /media/windows
Code:
sudo gedit /etc/fstab
Code:
/dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
Last edited by Sydney (2009-02-15 00:16:31)