Aries_37
arrivederci frog
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kylef wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Errr, kyle... reality check?

My small-time Uni café have been offering a free hot-drink scheme to repeat customers (something like buy 5 drinks and get a card stamped 5 times, claim a free drink) for months- and they're hardly a megabucks corporation that can afford to have loss-leading deals like this. The fact is this is still a marketing stratagem designed to get people in Starbucks, buying their products and making more money. Defy it? I'll defy your stupid fucking naivety, I thought you did business/economics? People flock to the store for a free drink, presented under a pretense of charity/fair-trade bullshit/good will, they sit down in those leather chairs and then drop £5.00 on muffins and snacks and other related shite. They're still making a fuckton of money, this is just a scheme to encourage more business and more repeat custom during such an economic downturn.

/thread. You lose.
Of course that's what it is - they are a firm and their only incentive is profit - but even you should admit that the idea is absolute genius. I'd list all the ways they'll make their fortune out of this one, but I'm sure you know them all already.
lol revive

come on mods leave them be

Also lol @
https://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4186/bf2smodskillzng5.jpg
never seen that before

Last edited by Aries_37 (2009-02-20 10:25:43)

kylef
Gone
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lol..I just came on to post about how this is handy it is for quite a lot of people, yes including me seeing as I like Starbucks. Debates for this stuff comes hand in hand. Besides, Uzique and I are polar opposites on pretty much everything.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6906

kylef wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Errr, kyle... reality check?

My small-time Uni café have been offering a free hot-drink scheme to repeat customers (something like buy 5 drinks and get a card stamped 5 times, claim a free drink) for months- and they're hardly a megabucks corporation that can afford to have loss-leading deals like this. The fact is this is still a marketing stratagem designed to get people in Starbucks, buying their products and making more money. Defy it? I'll defy your stupid fucking naivety, I thought you did business/economics? People flock to the store for a free drink, presented under a pretense of charity/fair-trade bullshit/good will, they sit down in those leather chairs and then drop £5.00 on muffins and snacks and other related shite. They're still making a fuckton of money, this is just a scheme to encourage more business and more repeat custom during such an economic downturn.

/thread. You lose.
Of course that's what it is - they are a firm and their only incentive is profit - but even you should admit that the idea is absolute genius. I'd list all the ways they'll make their fortune out of this one, but I'm sure you know them all already.

Edit: and yes, the first thing my sad economics brain thought of was XED elasticity.
Genius? Then why was my micro-size local café doing it months ago? Some real marketing whizzkids they have at Starbucks... they are surely the first firm in history to give away free-stuff or crazy deals as an incentive to stimulate further sale and business! The only thing that's unique about this scheme is that they dress it in some moralfag good-intentions Fairtrade theme. I'm not convinced.

And yes baggs, yes.
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stryyker
bad touch
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Starbucks is sill overpriced and shitty, even with free stuff.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7082
I will continue to hate starbucks as long as they have pompous drink sizes.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6929|N. Ireland

Uzique wrote:

kylef wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Errr, kyle... reality check?

My small-time Uni café have been offering a free hot-drink scheme to repeat customers (something like buy 5 drinks and get a card stamped 5 times, claim a free drink) for months- and they're hardly a megabucks corporation that can afford to have loss-leading deals like this. The fact is this is still a marketing stratagem designed to get people in Starbucks, buying their products and making more money. Defy it? I'll defy your stupid fucking naivety, I thought you did business/economics? People flock to the store for a free drink, presented under a pretense of charity/fair-trade bullshit/good will, they sit down in those leather chairs and then drop £5.00 on muffins and snacks and other related shite. They're still making a fuckton of money, this is just a scheme to encourage more business and more repeat custom during such an economic downturn.

/thread. You lose.
Of course that's what it is - they are a firm and their only incentive is profit - but even you should admit that the idea is absolute genius. I'd list all the ways they'll make their fortune out of this one, but I'm sure you know them all already.

Edit: and yes, the first thing my sad economics brain thought of was XED elasticity.
Genius? Then why was my micro-size local café doing it months ago? Some real marketing whizzkids they have at Starbucks... they are surely the first firm in history to give away free-stuff or crazy deals as an incentive to stimulate further sale and business! The only thing that's unique about this scheme is that they dress it in some moralfag good-intentions Fairtrade theme. I'm not convinced.

And yes baggs, yes.
I think we both know that your micro-sized cafe did this because repeat attraction normally means you'll stick with it, the free cup being the bonus. I'm saying it's pretty ingenious because for a firm that is cutting several hundred stores due to the recession, the 2p it costs to make the entire cup of coffee is in theory giving them a profit when they are selling it at 0p. You don't think this is smart?
phishman420
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Uzique
dasein.
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Loss-leading marketing or making price-cut incentives during a recession is not "smart", especially from a global-spanning corporation. They should know their business basics. This is an example of that.

Definitely doesn't deserve a thread celebrating Starbuck's "genius". This just betrays your silly bandwagon fanboyism more than anything you have done before.
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csmag
Member
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Even at 2pm i could go for free coffee when it's -10 out like today
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6929|N. Ireland

Uzique wrote:

Loss-leading marketing or making price-cut incentives during a recession is not "smart", especially from a global-spanning corporation. They should know their business basics. This is an example of that.

Definitely doesn't deserve a thread celebrating Starbuck's "genius". This just betrays your silly bandwagon fanboyism more than anything you have done before.
You're right. Which is why I didn't make it like that, and I even said that:

kylef wrote:

lol..I just came on to post about how this is handy it is for quite a lot of people, yes including me seeing as I like Starbucks. Debates for this stuff comes hand in hand. Besides, Uzique and I are polar opposites on pretty much everything.
How is making price-cut incentives during a recession not "smart"?
gnot<3
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csmag wrote:

Even at 2pm i could go for free coffee when it's -10 out like today
wat are you waiting for then, permission? gogogo

but yea, I don't know where you live, but it is freezing, like balls inside my head cold.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6936|so randum
So starbucks is giving kyle free coffee at a nice time for straight after school, and this is still a bad thing?

oooook
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
baggs
Member
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Uzique wrote:

And yes baggs, yes.
Hey i got the love for you Uzique, but you're like the self professed 'gods gift to originality' or something and it's getting kinda annoying. No one can say anything without getting an ear-full from you mate
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6929|N. Ireland

FatherTed wrote:

So starbucks is giving kyle free coffee at a nice time for straight after school, and this is still a bad thing?

oooook
I'll treat you to one sometime, coffee with ted is on the bucket list.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6936|so randum

kylef wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

So starbucks is giving kyle free coffee at a nice time for straight after school, and this is still a bad thing?

oooook
I'll treat you to one sometime, coffee with ted is on the bucket list.
yaaaaaay!
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
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I dont quite like Starbucks, but that's a nice move tbh.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6906

kylef wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Loss-leading marketing or making price-cut incentives during a recession is not "smart", especially from a global-spanning corporation. They should know their business basics. This is an example of that.

Definitely doesn't deserve a thread celebrating Starbuck's "genius". This just betrays your silly bandwagon fanboyism more than anything you have done before.
You're right. Which is why I didn't make it like that, and I even said that:

kylef wrote:

lol..I just came on to post about how this is handy it is for quite a lot of people, yes including me seeing as I like Starbucks. Debates for this stuff comes hand in hand. Besides, Uzique and I are polar opposites on pretty much everything.
How is making price-cut incentives during a recession not "smart"?
It's not smart. It's basics for survival. Do it or go bust; nothing smart or genius involved.

And you changed the thread-topic, it was originally something challenging us to criticise their awesome-kind-genius-amazing-socool! move.

Baggs, I don't care if you're tired of getting an earfull, that's how I get my kicks
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CrazeD
Member
+368|7109|Maine

Uzique wrote:

Errr, kyle... reality check?

My small-time Uni café have been offering a free hot-drink scheme to repeat customers (something like buy 5 drinks and get a card stamped 5 times, claim a free drink) for months- and they're hardly a megabucks corporation that can afford to have loss-leading deals like this. The fact is this is still a marketing stratagem designed to get people in Starbucks, buying their products and making more money. Defy it? I'll defy your stupid fucking naivety, I thought you did business/economics? People flock to the store for a free drink, presented under a pretense of charity/fair-trade bullshit/good will, they sit down in those leather chairs and then drop £5.00 on muffins and snacks and other related shite. They're still making a fuckton of money, this is just a scheme to encourage more business and more repeat custom during such an economic downturn.

/thread. You lose.
Why do you always have to post how much better you and your fucking school are over everyone else? Seriously, you're not better than anyone, shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6929|N. Ireland

Uzique wrote:

kylef wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Loss-leading marketing or making price-cut incentives during a recession is not "smart", especially from a global-spanning corporation. They should know their business basics. This is an example of that.

Definitely doesn't deserve a thread celebrating Starbuck's "genius". This just betrays your silly bandwagon fanboyism more than anything you have done before.
You're right. Which is why I didn't make it like that, and I even said that:

kylef wrote:

lol..I just came on to post about how this is handy it is for quite a lot of people, yes including me seeing as I like Starbucks. Debates for this stuff comes hand in hand. Besides, Uzique and I are polar opposites on pretty much everything.
How is making price-cut incentives during a recession not "smart"?
It's not smart. It's basics for survival. Do it or go bust; nothing smart or genius involved.

And you changed the thread-topic, it was originally something challenging us to criticise their awesome-kind-genius-amazing-socool! move.

Baggs, I don't care if you're tired of getting an earfull, that's how I get my kicks
Yeah I did get the thread title changed because some posts were being deleted and it was steering away from the subject. But I posted that quote before I even requested the title to be changed. And any move that allows the company to survive is smart imo. But I think SBUX could, you know, survive without doing it.

Last edited by kylef (2009-02-20 15:20:40)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6929|N. Ireland
Update

I'm sure none of you were expecting this. The coffee tastes bad. Very, very bad. Too sweet, too ... weak and tasteless

Last edited by kylef (2009-02-27 11:06:49)

wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6896|UK
Yeah take that you yuppy/student fuck!
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6906

CrazeD wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Errr, kyle... reality check?

My small-time Uni café have been offering a free hot-drink scheme to repeat customers (something like buy 5 drinks and get a card stamped 5 times, claim a free drink) for months- and they're hardly a megabucks corporation that can afford to have loss-leading deals like this. The fact is this is still a marketing stratagem designed to get people in Starbucks, buying their products and making more money. Defy it? I'll defy your stupid fucking naivety, I thought you did business/economics? People flock to the store for a free drink, presented under a pretense of charity/fair-trade bullshit/good will, they sit down in those leather chairs and then drop £5.00 on muffins and snacks and other related shite. They're still making a fuckton of money, this is just a scheme to encourage more business and more repeat custom during such an economic downturn.

/thread. You lose.
Why do you always have to post how much better you and your fucking school are over everyone else? Seriously, you're not better than anyone, shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up.
Hahahahaha. What? I'm talking about a small business that has nothing to do with me or a school. It's a small coffee business that have employed the same price-leading initiatives for months, which was the basis of my argument for denouncing Starbucks 'ingenius' awesomeness.

And Kyle, since when has Starbucks coffee ever tasted 'good'? I mean, this isn't even an anti-Starbucks criticism; their coffee is average on the best of days, are you surprised?
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kylef
Gone
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Uzique wrote:

And Kyle, since when has Starbucks coffee ever tasted 'good'? I mean, this isn't even an anti-Starbucks criticism; their coffee is average on the best of days, are you surprised?
Their Americano (and espresso) tastes fantastic, to me.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6906
Have you ever had an Americano or espresso from a proper, high-price coffee shop, to compare?
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kylef
Gone
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Uzique wrote:

Have you ever had an Americano or espresso from a proper, high-price coffee shop, to compare?
How about espresso bars in the Seville area of Spain?

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