venom6
Since day One.
+247|6822|Hungary
Hello to everyone!

Im in a total dilemma and i dont know what to do. I thought lets update a little bit and as i dont want to spend huge money on my PC i get only +1 GB of ram (GEIL DDR 400) and a new VGA. Here i list the two cards what are in race.

1. SAPPHIRE HD4830 512 MB PCIE VGA
https://www.gepbolt.hu/images/cikkek/SAPPHIRE/VGAPCXAROSAPHD48301G.jpg

2. NVIDIA XFX 9600GT XXX ALPHA DOG
https://www.ohs.hu/products/peripherial_pics/xfx9600gtxxx.jpg

Well my friend said that i should get the first one, but somehow i had allways nvidia cards so i prefer the 2nd one. The only problem is that i visited 3 pc shops yesterday and everywhere they said its outdated and its hardly to get it as they dont produce it anymore. And its total stupid that they ask so much money for that card.
The good stuff is that they give COD4 to it It would be better to get the Shapphire then the Xfx.

Any personal ideas or experiances?

Thank you!

Last edited by venom6 (2009-02-21 02:05:00)

HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|6973|Germany
If I were you, I would post the rest of my rig ASAP before certain people here rip your balls off.
Just a friendly tip
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya
Personally i'd go for the 4830. its newer tech. and in every benchmark i've seen it beats the 9600 (or they perform very similarly).

but thats just my opinion. neither are top of the line cards... but they're both decent budget cards.
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6822|Hungary
Well my specs are this:
MSI K8N Neo 4 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and right now i have 2x Kingston 512 MB 400 Mhz. I dont want a new CPU coz then i need to change everything.

Thx for the advise! I think i have to go for the ATI one
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya

venom6 wrote:

Well my specs are this:
MSI K8N Neo 4 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and right now i have 2x Kingston 512 MB 400 Mhz. I dont want a new CPU coz then i need to change everything.

Thx for the advise! I think i have to go for the ATI one
Well you'll be happy with it. tbh the rest of your system would be such a bottleneck that anything more (or even that for that matter) is overkill
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6822|Hungary

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

venom6 wrote:

Well my specs are this:
MSI K8N Neo 4 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and right now i have 2x Kingston 512 MB 400 Mhz. I dont want a new CPU coz then i need to change everything.

Thx for the advise! I think i have to go for the ATI one
Well you'll be happy with it. tbh the rest of your system would be such a bottleneck that anything more (or even that for that matter) is overkill
My main goal righ now is to play BF2 on all HIGH settings. So with a new VGA and +1 GB ram it will be possible right?
I also know that for next get games like Far Cry 2 or Crysis i better get new CPU and DDR3 and all that stuff.
In the future maybe or when i get bored to BF2
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya

venom6 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

venom6 wrote:

Well my specs are this:
MSI K8N Neo 4 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and right now i have 2x Kingston 512 MB 400 Mhz. I dont want a new CPU coz then i need to change everything.

Thx for the advise! I think i have to go for the ATI one
Well you'll be happy with it. tbh the rest of your system would be such a bottleneck that anything more (or even that for that matter) is overkill
My main goal righ now is to play BF2 on all HIGH settings. So with a new VGA and +1 GB ram it will be possible right?
I also know that for next get games like Far Cry 2 or Crysis i better get new CPU and DDR3 and all that stuff.
In the future maybe or when i get bored to BF2
Yeah that card will definitely run BF2 on high... not 100% sure about the CPU.

but it will let u play some older games (like bf2, css probably cod4)
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6822|Hungary

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

venom6 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:


Well you'll be happy with it. tbh the rest of your system would be such a bottleneck that anything more (or even that for that matter) is overkill
My main goal righ now is to play BF2 on all HIGH settings. So with a new VGA and +1 GB ram it will be possible right?
I also know that for next get games like Far Cry 2 or Crysis i better get new CPU and DDR3 and all that stuff.
In the future maybe or when i get bored to BF2
Yeah that card will definitely run BF2 on high... not 100% sure about the CPU.

but it will let u play some older games (like bf2, css probably cod4)
Its okey so I played COD4 demo on medium settings. I can run BF2 on high but i get some hardware lag i guess my 6600GT with 256 MB is not enough for the AA settings
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya

venom6 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

venom6 wrote:


My main goal righ now is to play BF2 on all HIGH settings. So with a new VGA and +1 GB ram it will be possible right?
I also know that for next get games like Far Cry 2 or Crysis i better get new CPU and DDR3 and all that stuff.
In the future maybe or when i get bored to BF2
Yeah that card will definitely run BF2 on high... not 100% sure about the CPU.

but it will let u play some older games (like bf2, css probably cod4)
Its okey so I played COD4 demo on medium settings. I can run BF2 on high but i get some hardware lag i guess my 6600GT with 256 MB is not enough for the AA settings
4830 massively pwns 6600
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

Your CPU is going to bottleneck, but since it's PCI-E, you can re-use the card when you upgrade, so it's pretty cool.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6727|cuntshitlake

Running BF2 all high is pointless.
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6955|Devon, England
I have a 9600GT.

Love it.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6913

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Running BF2 all high is pointless.
Why? I mean, I had shadows and stuff turned off, because it was easier to see snipers.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Running BF2 all high is pointless.
I run it on all high, just because I want it to look as good as possible. It's actually quite beautiful when you're flying on some bright map.

Oh well, I guess you won't understand. I mean, you can't fly.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6727|cuntshitlake

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Oh well, I guess you won't understand. I mean, you can't fly.
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNN

ghettoperson wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Running BF2 all high is pointless.
Why? I mean, I had shadows and stuff turned off, because it was easier to see snipers.
Let me take a few reference screenshots.
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
GCFC
Davide Santon
+45|6193|NY/CT
the 30
gnot<3
Leave blank to use forum default.
+45|5818
tbh, w/e card has a free game to go with it.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

gnot<3 wrote:

tbh, w/e card has a free game to go with it.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/troll7.jpg
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6822|Hungary

DeathUnlimited wrote:

Running BF2 all high is pointless.
Nah come on its just beautyful! Thats my goal, so i play now on medium and all shadow stuff and light stuff off.
If i get the VGA and turn all on high that means +2 years of BF2 fun. You know like a new game
Wallpaper
+303|6258|The pool
Hd4830 >>> 9600 Gt
csmag
Member
+92|6711|Canada
Get another gig of ram. 1 gig wont cut it for all high.
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya

csmag wrote:

Get another gig of ram. 1 gig wont cut it for all high.
i may have read it wrong.

but hasnt he got 1 gig (2x512) and is getting another 1gb?
csmag
Member
+92|6711|Canada

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

csmag wrote:

Get another gig of ram. 1 gig wont cut it for all high.
i may have read it wrong.

but hasnt he got 1 gig (2x512) and is getting another 1gb?
Yeah my bad. I failed to read op right.
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6822|Hungary

csmag wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

csmag wrote:

Get another gig of ram. 1 gig wont cut it for all high.
i may have read it wrong.

but hasnt he got 1 gig (2x512) and is getting another 1gb?
Yeah my bad. I failed to read op right.
True i got 2x512 Kingston, but i plan to buy 2x1GB GEIL DDR same 400 Mhz as my actual Kingston. So I will have the 2x1GB GEIL in my PC.
I also thought that i may try to add my 2x512 so at the end i would have 3GB. My friends said that it could make the whole stuff slower.

Any suggestions? Should i try it with 3GB or just leave 2GB?
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya

venom6 wrote:

csmag wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:


i may have read it wrong.

but hasnt he got 1 gig (2x512) and is getting another 1gb?
Yeah my bad. I failed to read op right.
True i got 2x512 Kingston, but i plan to buy 2x1GB GEIL DDR same 400 Mhz as my actual Kingston. So I will have the 2x1GB GEIL in my PC.
I also thought that i may try to add my 2x512 so at the end i would have 3GB. My friends said that it could make the whole stuff slower.

Any suggestions? Should i try it with 3GB or just leave 2GB?
if its all 400Mhz and dual channel.... i cant see why it would run any slower

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