HELP! Mum's external HDD not working. Yelling happening.. at me.

2009-02-23 00:53:55

#1

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

I seem to ask you guys only when it's something I have fuck all idea about, so please try this one...

We have a 250GB Seagate external HDD that is usually connected to our PC. It's formatted in FAT32. Mum keeps all of her old photos on there, etc etc.

So I was mowing the lawn tonight, when mum comes outside and asks "Have you connected my external hard drive to your Mac?". I reply with a simple yes (I had transferred files ages ago, and everything was ok) before I get a shitstorm of "It's not working, what has your mac done to it, blah blah."

I get to the computer, go into my computer and click on the icon. I am greeted with:

Code:G/ Access deniedIt's connected to my macbook now, and I can use it fine. I'm unable to edit read-write permissions, but on both the mac and the PC I'm told that I have access to the hard drive.

Extra info:
2 weeks ago I took the external round to a mates place to give him project reality and some other files. Connected to his PC, we were having trouble transferring the files. A few times it "completed" the transfer, but when we removed the cable it said that the write failed. IIRC, it said something about a delayed write.. and pulling the cable stopped it.

That being said, I assume mum would have used the external within the last two weeks. Why now is it not working?

What the fuck BF2s, what the fuck?

Can any of you guys suggest anything that could help me here?

2009-02-23 01:00:23

#2

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6702|King Of The Islands

Try a chkdsk /r under Windows.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2009-02-23 01:02:18

#3

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

mcminty wrote:
Mac

There's your problem.

On a serious note, unplugging it whilst it's writing things can fuck over the file system. Have you tried reformatting it?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-23 01:05:44

#4

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mcminty wrote:
Mac
There's your problem.

On a serious note, unplugging it whilst it's writing things can fuck over the file system. Have you tried reformatting it?

She's got a lot of stuff on it that she wants to keep.. so no. I know I can, and I would hold all of its contents on my 1TB external while I format it, then just transfer them back across.

If the file system was fucked, then why am I able to read and write with my mac?

Cheez, shall look in to the chkdsk..

2009-02-23 01:10:08

#5

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

Cheez wrote:
Try a chkdsk /r under Windows.

Umm, how to I run that on the external. I typed "chkdsk" into run, but I assume it's just scanning the PCs internal HDD (it says its NTFS, but the external is FAT32)..

XD

2009-02-23 01:10:59

#6

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

Just a tip-when transferring big files wait a bit longer after windows says it finished copying. Sometimes it still copies.

J/k: Bill wanted his Windows to be the fastest OS when it comes to file transferring so a false, premature message pops up saying copying is finished even thought it hasn't yet finished.

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2009-02-23 01:11:22

#7

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6702|King Of The Islands

Bring up cmd, and specify the letter:.

Is there a Mac equivalent (that can do FAT32)?

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2009-02-23 01:12:34

#8

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6702|King Of The Islands

.Sup wrote:
Just a tip-when transferring big files wait a bit longer after windows says it finished copying. Sometimes it still copies.

Changed that in Vista.

Always safe remove a HDD I reckon. USBs are fine once they stop blinking.

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2009-02-23 01:14:23

#9

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

Cheez wrote:
Bring up cmd, and specify the letter:.

Is there a Mac equivalent (that can do FAT32)?

That can do what with FAT32?

2009-02-23 01:25:09

#10

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

Cheez wrote:
Bring up cmd, and specify the letter:.

What the fuck?!

Typing the following into "run"..

Code:

G:

...opens up the fucking thing. I can access the files, and I copied a file to and from the external. It was this photo, ironically tbh.

So the question is, why can't I access it via My Computer, which is where it tells me that access is denied?!!

2009-02-23 01:27:58

#11

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6702|King Of The Islands

Start > Run > cmd

chkdsk /r g:

Edit: idunnolol

Last edited by Cheez (2009-02-23 01:28:33)

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2009-02-23 01:36:41

#12

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

Is there a lock switch embedded in the HDD?

2009-02-23 01:52:12

#13

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

.Sup wrote:
Is there a lock switch embedded in the HDD?

I'll check, but still.. I can read/write on my mac, and can open then read/write on the PC using run

2009-02-23 01:56:52

#14

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

mcminty wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Is there a lock switch embedded in the HDD?
I'll check, but still.. I can read/write on my mac, and can open then read/write on the PC using run

There is a small rectangular hole. Next to it is a white lock symbol, with what looks to be |< within the lock. Doubt this is of any consequence.

2009-02-23 02:04:53

#15

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

Try updating firmware if there is any

2009-02-23 02:28:28

#16

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6980

change the drive letter....

Love is the answer

2009-02-23 04:52:58

#17

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

Freezer7Pro wrote:
mcminty wrote:
Mac
On a serious note, unplugging it whilst it's writing things can fuck over the file system. Have you tried reformatting it?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-23 04:58:27

#18

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|6985|Sydney, Australia

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
mcminty wrote:
Mac
On a serious note, unplugging it whilst it's writing things can fuck over the file system. Have you tried reformatting it?

I thought I said I do nay want to reformat it...

My mate has clarified what I said above:

and i couldn't do the "safely remove" thing cause it wasn't displaying in my toolbar. Also we waited like 10 minutes after transferring the second time and it still fuxed up so i don't know what the deal was

2009-02-23 05:15:08

#19

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

mcminty wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

On a serious note, unplugging it whilst it's writing things can fuck over the file system. Have you tried reformatting it?
I thought I said I do nay want to reformat it...

My mate has clarified what I said above:
and i couldn't do the "safely remove" thing cause it wasn't displaying in my toolbar. Also we waited like 10 minutes after transferring the second time and it still fuxed up so i don't know what the deal was

But since you now have access to it and can back up all files, I think it could possibly be a good way to fix the problems you're having with it.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-23 07:19:31

#20

Yaocelotl: :D; +221|6914|Keyboard

If you are going to reformat it, do it with NTFS file system. Windows usually fucks up with other file systems and the NTFS is the best for it. MAC's I think use ext3 (like Linux I think).

2009-02-23 07:54:56

#21

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6757|N. Ireland

Mac and PC can read and write FAT32 fine..

2009-02-23 08:12:59

#22

Benzin: Member; +576|6262

Yaocelotl wrote:
If you are going to reformat it, do it with NTFS file system. Windows usually fucks up with other file systems and the NTFS is the best for it. MAC's I think use ext3 (like Linux I think).

Formatting it to NTFS would stop him from being able to access the drive on his Mac. Macs CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT, read NTFS. There is no converter or whatever. FAT32 is the only option for cross-platform compatibility. Though you would think if Apple really wanted to blur the line more, they would fix that ...

If you can copy the contents of the drive over to another HDD, I would do that now. Reformat the Seagate and then copy back and see what that gets you. Obviously leave the copies of stuff on your 1TB drive, though.

Good luck.

Hope you don't have to do file recovery, though, because that will get expensive REAL FAST.

2009-02-23 10:01:59

#23

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

Can't you just

Code:

chmod 777

the whole disk?

Macs can read and write fine to NTFS with NTFS-3G

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