EVGA X58 "Classified", GTX 295 Released

2009-01-08 12:08:54

#26

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

haffeysucks wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
it's a shame really, you'd think that x16+x16+x6 would be better than x16+x8+x8 but whatever.
Not really, because it's PCIe 2.0. So, x8 == x16 PCIe 1.1.
doesn't matter, because more bandwidth SHOULD help regardless of if that bandwidth is being used.

How so?

It's the same deal as using a SATA2 drive on SATA. The extra bandwidth does absolutely nothing because it is not used.

2009-01-08 12:13:55

#27

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6813|UK

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
44% performance boost with new drivers to months old card? I will need more than one review to beliee that... I'll start digging out what OC community thinks...

edit: when u look at the other benchies u see the performance increase is not even nearly that big...

I know, I never said they where either, it is simply an example. I thought it was particularly interesting consider Crysis favours Nvidia hardware.

http://translate.google.com/translate?h … ry_state0=

There is a lot of tests, the 4870x2 is listed twice, with current and then beta drivers. As I said, as you crank up the filters and the rez, it seems to pull ahead in a lot of those games even on the current drivers.

Martyn

Last edited by Bell (2009-01-08 12:17:26)

2009-01-08 12:24:51

#28

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

hmm... they didn't use i7 like most when testing the cards... nvidia should get out some new drivers soon too so we'll see... Its already known that the GTX 295 runs out of vram when 2560x2048 and AA+AF... but unless u got a 30" Sony there its not a problem...

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2009-01-08 12:41:35

#29

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

One thing I promise when I get the card I'll run it through hefty load of games and benchies... I got a word that nVIDIA is already making a driver for GTX 295 to outrun the ATi by reasonable difference 8)

edit: when this comes to price/performance..... it will be the bloodiest fight in GPU history...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-01-08 12:43:08)

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2009-01-08 13:00:16

#30

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6813|UK

Kind of debating it myself. Found a BFG 295 for 407 on ebuyer, xfx is at 410. I think I will sit back a bit and see how it settles down. Nvidia have those drivers releasing, ati have catalyst 9.1 and are apparantly turning on side port so it will be an interesting battle. I dont really see prices shifitng all that much though, since the 295 I believe is a limited run part and has a short life span, I believe it's EOL is due like april-may. It will certainly get a replacement by then.

Also the warranties on those ATi cards are kind of shit.

2009-01-08 13:01:10

#31

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

someone at vr-zone already had to take it apart out of curiosity....

https://resources.vr-zone.com/newvr/image.php?m=540&s=https://resources.vr-zone.com//uploads/6380/gtx295_0012_(1438).jpg

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2009-01-08 13:08:50

#32

FloppY_: +1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
44% performance boost with new drivers to months old card? I will need more than one review to beliee that... I'll start digging out what OC community thinks...

edit: when u look at the other benchies u see the performance increase is not even nearly that big...

Still, that is one impressive boost even if it only applies in crysis

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2009-01-08 13:12:31

#33

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
44% performance boost with new drivers to months old card? I will need more than one review to beliee that... I'll start digging out what OC community thinks...

edit: when u look at the other benchies u see the performance increase is not even nearly that big...
Still, that is one impressive boost even if it only applies in crysis

that's why I'm not the only one wondering what they did... or what nvidia does....

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2009-01-08 14:42:38

#34

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

Catalyst 9.1 is supposed to give huge Crossfire scaling fixes. As in +80% in some games...

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2009-01-08 14:55:57

#35

twoblacklines: all grown up now (its boring); +49|6471

I cant afford it, i didnt think it would be £500

But when I do have £500 il buy one for folding use.

2009-01-08 14:56:12

#36

FloppY_: +1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

haffeysucks wrote:
Catalyst 9.1 is supposed to give huge Crossfire scaling fixes. As in +80% in some games...

I suspect the fact that Quad Crossfire (X2 x 2) makes the difference even bigger than regular Crossfire setups

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2009-01-08 15:03:43

#37

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

FloppY_ wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
Catalyst 9.1 is supposed to give huge Crossfire scaling fixes. As in +80% in some games...
I suspect the fact that Quad Crossfire (X2 x 2) makes the difference even bigger than regular Crossfire setups

what?...

Here, from post #6 read downwards

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-01-08 15:09:12

#38

FloppY_: +1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

haffeysucks wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
Catalyst 9.1 is supposed to give huge Crossfire scaling fixes. As in +80% in some games...
I suspect the fact that Quad Crossfire (X2 x 2) makes the difference even bigger than regular Crossfire setups
what?...

Here, from post #6 read downwards

No, I mean that X2 CF could scale worse than single core cards in CF because of the massive bandwith required by double the amount of GPUs on card... therefore granting a bigger bonus than X1 when CF scaling is improved...

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2009-01-09 05:36:51

#39

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

more pics of EVGA GTX 295

https://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6006/bigevgagtx2958qa4.jpg

https://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7576/bigevgagtx2953pj6.jpg

more here: http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVIDIA- … Unleashed/

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2009-02-24 12:15:53

#40

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6813|UK

So where is the board?

If am not mistaking, chinese new year has been and gone, and I havent seen the board anywhere. I did read something about last minute checks but I cant see anyone with even the facility to pre order.

Going out on a bit of a binge before the economy totally collapses () so am interested in this board. Tri SLI and a dedicated phyisics card

Zomg av turned into everything I ever hated (nfancunt).

2009-02-24 12:17:28

#41

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

prepare for epic meltdown at Bell's place lol... tri-sli with physics card runs HAWT.

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2009-02-24 12:17:55

#42

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

Bell wrote:
So where is the board?

If am not mistaking, chinese new year has been and gone, and I havent seen the board anywhere. I did read something about last minute checks but I cant see anyone with even the facility to pre order.

Going out on a bit of a binge before the economy totally collapses () so am interested in this board. Tri SLI and a dedicated phyisics card

Zomg av turned into everything I ever hated (nfancunt).

quad SLI with GTX295s and a dedicated G92 for physics tbh

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-02-24 12:28:47

#43

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6813|UK

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
prepare for epic meltdown at Bell's place lol... tri-sli with physics card runs HAWT.

It will be FINE! Its cold here anyways

Have been looking at water cooling, dont have enough faith the case is up to the task, however, am sligtly concerned about how it would work considering it is four cards that would be in that machine (essentially). There isnt a lot of space between, the two bottom PCI lanes.

I dont really go out drinking (much), it's amazing how much spare cash you find yourself with if yer just not into that stuff. I'd rather get the use of it than have it sit in some bank which will get lost when the world blows up (because of my SLI SET UP ).

2009-02-24 12:31:03

#44

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6052|Catherine Black

max wrote:
Bell wrote:
So where is the board?

If am not mistaking, chinese new year has been and gone, and I havent seen the board anywhere. I did read something about last minute checks but I cant see anyone with even the facility to pre order.

Going out on a bit of a binge before the economy totally collapses () so am interested in this board. Tri SLI and a dedicated phyisics card

Zomg av turned into everything I ever hated (nfancunt).
quad SLI with GTX295s and a dedicated G92 for physics tbh

Oh my god.. just use on of the cores on the 295 for physics, and send me the G92..

You don't need it max, you really don't

Did you do a benchmark before/after dedicated physics card?

EDIT: Nm, just looked at the G92, and it's not as good as an 8800GTX, which my brother had, and my card was better >.<

Last edited by Finray (2009-02-24 12:32:36)

2009-02-24 12:54:31

#45

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
prepare for epic meltdown at Bell's place lol... tri-sli with physics card runs HAWT.

You think that runs hot?

Try this

https://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/nigelf/nodes_12.png

Spoiler (highlight to read):
for those of you who can't count: That's 8 GTX295 with a total of 16 GPUs there

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-02-24 13:00:47

#46

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

: O

Is there something you are not telling us, Max?

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2009-02-24 13:11:09

#47

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

I wish, but that's not mine.

Check out his site. He has 11 GTX295s atm but will add more. Gotta enjoy my last few moments during which I'm outproducing him. Soon I'll get "reap'ed"

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-02-24 13:15:29

#48

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

O my gawd... that's 5.5K in just GTX 295s.

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2009-02-24 13:16:41

#49

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

He has a budget of $15k for the farm

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-02-24 13:20:43

#50

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

max wrote:
He has a budget of $15k for the farm

And you don't?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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