.Sup
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Found this on wiki, I think it pretty much sums it up:

An audiophile, from Latin audio[1] "I hear" and Greek philos[2] "loving," is a person, who typically listens to music on high-end audio electronics.
Audiophiles try to listen to music at a quality level that is as close to the original performance as possible. They use high-fidelity components to try to attain these goals. Many are music lovers who are passionate about high-quality music reproduction. DIY audio enthusiasts build their own equipment, especially loudspeakers.
Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
Audiophiles can purchase special recordings made with extra attention to sound quality; some companies specialize in re-issuing recordings for this purpose. Many audiophiles[weasel words] feel that vinyl records sound better than compact discs (CDs), and audiophile records are often remastered and pressed on extra-heavy virgin vinyl – 180g or 200g. Audiophiles also collect recordings in the high-resolution formats such as Super Audio CD or DVD-Audio.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiophiles
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.Sup wrote:

Found this on wiki, I think it pretty much sums it up:

An audiophile, from Latin audio[1] "I hear" and Greek philos[2] "loving," is a person, who typically listens to music on high-end audio electronics.
Audiophiles try to listen to music at a quality level that is as close to the original performance as possible. They use high-fidelity components to try to attain these goals. Many are music lovers who are passionate about high-quality music reproduction. DIY audio enthusiasts build their own equipment, especially loudspeakers.
Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
Audiophiles can purchase special recordings made with extra attention to sound quality; some companies specialize in re-issuing recordings for this purpose. Many audiophiles[weasel words] feel that vinyl records sound better than compact discs (CDs), and audiophile records are often remastered and pressed on extra-heavy virgin vinyl – 180g or 200g. Audiophiles also collect recordings in the high-resolution formats such as Super Audio CD or DVD-Audio.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiophiles

.Sup wrote:

Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
Audiophiles can purchase special recordings made with extra attention to sound quality; some companies specialize in re-issuing recordings for this purpose. Many audiophiles[weasel words] feel that vinyl records sound better than compact discs (CDs), and audiophile records are often remastered and pressed on extra-heavy virgin vinyl – 180g or 200g. Audiophiles also collect recordings in the high-resolution formats such as Super Audio CD or DVD-Audio.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiophiles

.Sup wrote:

Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]

.Sup wrote:

Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.

.Sup wrote:

...Prices range from...
That's my point.

Unless you're forking out for some 70-channel setup, you don't need to fork out all that much, if you know how to handle your stuff.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Do you want to say prices range from 1$>?

Read this one more time and don't cut anything from context

Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

Do you want to say prices range from 1$>?

Read this one more time and don't cut anything from context

Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
Are you gonna do anything other than quote the wiki?

The goal of high-end audio equipment is to recreate as exact sound as possible.

And

.Sup wrote:

Do you want to say prices range from 1$>?
isn't taking it out of context?

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The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
be nice
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Do you want to say prices range from 1$>?

Read this one more time and don't cut anything from context

Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
Are you gonna do anything other than quote the wiki?

The goal of high-end audio equipment is to recreate as exact sound as possible.
Yes and that isn't possible with an ipod & earphones you know.
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Do you want to say prices range from 1$>?

Read this one more time and don't cut anything from context

Audiophile values may be applied at all stages of music reproduction: the initial audio recording, the production process, and the playback, which is usually in a home setting. High-end audio refers to expensive, high-quality, or esoteric products and practices used in the reproduction of music. Electronic gear used by audiophiles is typically sold at specialist shops. Prices range from not much more than mass market electronics to astronomical heights: high-end audio systems can easily cost more than a new automobile and in extreme cases can be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Most of this gear is produced by companies that specialize in high-end gear, although some also produce equipment used by audio professionals such as by recording studios.
Audiophile magazines include Hi-Fi News, Hi-Fi Choice, Hi-Fi World, and What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision in the United Kingdom as well as Stereophile and The Absolute Sound in the United States. Hobbyist audio societies also exist: Stereophile's website has a list of such groups in the United States.[3]
Are you gonna do anything other than quote the wiki?

The goal of high-end audio equipment is to recreate as exact sound as possible.
Yes and that isn't possible with an ipod & earphones you know.
Oh you.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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You going to reply or spam? Do you consider yourself an audiophile freezer?
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Uzique
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The only two people that give a shit are you two fucktards above.

Shut up.

You both take yourselves way too seriously, it just seems contrived. Move onto the next phase and 'in thing' please, techgeeks.
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

You going to reply or spam? Do you consider yourself an audiophile freezer?
I most certainly do, but I don't know if arguing with you is gonna get anywhere. You're 100% certain that you're correct, and I'm not gonna change that by arguing.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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I guess I'm lucky to love my ~70€ soundsystem.... sb audigy player with daniel.k driver + steelseries siberia....
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.Sup
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Uzique wrote:

The only two people that give a shit are you two fucktards above.

Shut up.

You both take yourselves way too seriously, it just seems contrived. Move onto the next phase and 'in thing' please, techgeeks.
I would like to discuss the term "audiophile". Is it not allowed?

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

You going to reply or spam? Do you consider yourself an audiophile freezer?
I most certainly do, but I don't know if arguing with you is gonna get anywhere. You're 100% certain that you're correct, and I'm not gonna change that by arguing.
From my part I can assure you I'm not arguing.

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Uzique
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Freezer you have 4 albums in FLAC, tweaking old shitty sound hardware doesn't make you anything other than a techgeek.

Sup you've suddenly graduated yourself to be the audio master of the BF2s Universe when you listen to shit music and have a moderately-priced system.

You both still need to shut the fuck up.

@ Sup: if you want a definition/semantics debate, it doesn't need to be in Tech and it doesn't need to involve e-peen comparisons.

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twoblacklines
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10% equipment, 90% installation.
.Sup
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Uzique wrote:

Freezer you have 4 albums in FLAC, tweaking old shitty sound hardware doesn't make you anything other than a techgeek.

Sup you've suddenly graduated yourself to be the audio master of the BF2s Universe when you listen to shit music and have a moderately-priced system.

You both still need to shut the fuck up.

@ Sup: if you want a definition/semantics debate, it doesn't need to be in Tech and it doesn't need to involve e-peen comparisons.
Shit music? Why would you say that?

Edit: where should this thread be? It can be moved

twoblacklines elaborate what you mean by that please

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twoblacklines
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By that i mean, the pureness and niceness of sound isnt produced by spending £70k on audio, its by where you put it. FWIW i have listened to ALOT of systems both in car and in home, and I can easily say my equipment keeps up with the best :

£80 TDL RTL 2's with upgraded silver wiring, Morel MDT 33 tweeter. Beresford DAC, Motherboard coaxial output, Harmon Kardon HK680. SPDIF lead, cheap interconnects.

All the above cost me around £400 and is as good as some systems I have heard for £40k. You know why ? Because I have installed them well, with regards to room placement, sound deadened some parts of my room such as the door, (but you cant see evidence of this, which is the point), and just tweaked and tweaked.
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.Sup wrote:

Uzique wrote:

The only two people that give a shit are you two fucktards above.

Shut up.

You both take yourselves way too seriously, it just seems contrived. Move onto the next phase and 'in thing' please, techgeeks.
I would like to discuss the term "audiophile". Is it not allowed?

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

You going to reply or spam? Do you consider yourself an audiophile freezer?
I most certainly do, but I don't know if arguing with you is gonna get anywhere. You're 100% certain that you're correct, and I'm not gonna change that by arguing.
From my part I can assure you I'm not arguing.

.Sup's PM wrote:

need specs of your system. amp, speakers, cables. will ask pros what hey think about being your setup an audiophile one or not
Of course you aren't

And Uzique, drop the "4 albums" thing. It's old and untrue.

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The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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twoblacklines wrote:

All the above cost me around £400 and is as good as some systems I have heard for £40k.
Sound quality is extremely noticeable when comparing a £400 and 10k> systems. I'm not saying you equipment doesn't sound good and I'm also not saying a 400 quid equipment can't be an audiophile setup but you saying your system sounds as good as high end ones confirms you are not an audiophile. Audiophiles would notice a huge difference.
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.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Uzique wrote:

The only two people that give a shit are you two fucktards above.

Shut up.

You both take yourselves way too seriously, it just seems contrived. Move onto the next phase and 'in thing' please, techgeeks.
I would like to discuss the term "audiophile". Is it not allowed?

Freezer7Pro wrote:


I most certainly do, but I don't know if arguing with you is gonna get anywhere. You're 100% certain that you're correct, and I'm not gonna change that by arguing.
From my part I can assure you I'm not arguing.

.Sup's PM wrote:

need specs of your system. amp, speakers, cables. will ask pros what hey think about being your setup an audiophile one or not
Of course you aren't

And Uzique, drop the "4 albums" thing. It's old and untrue.
I just asked for your specs. Is that called "arguing"?
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Uzique wrote:

The only two people that give a shit are you two fucktards above.

Shut up.

You both take yourselves way too seriously, it just seems contrived. Move onto the next phase and 'in thing' please, techgeeks.
I would like to discuss the term "audiophile". Is it not allowed?


From my part I can assure you I'm not arguing.

.Sup's PM wrote:

need specs of your system. amp, speakers, cables. will ask pros what hey think about being your setup an audiophile one or not
Of course you aren't

And Uzique, drop the "4 albums" thing. It's old and untrue.
I just asked for your specs. Is that called "arguing"?
"will ask pros"

That's pretty much arguing. Besides, you should be able to tell by yourself, seeing how elite you sound.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6734
You are both a spectator-sport joke.
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.Sup
be nice
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Uzique wrote:

The only two people that give a shit are you two fucktards above.

Shut up.

You both take yourselves way too seriously, it just seems contrived. Move onto the next phase and 'in thing' please, techgeeks.
I would like to discuss the term "audiophile". Is it not allowed?


From my part I can assure you I'm not arguing.
Of course you aren't

And Uzique, drop the "4 albums" thing. It's old and untrue.
I just asked for your specs. Is that called "arguing"?
"will ask pros"

That's pretty much arguing. Besides, you should be able to tell by yourself, seeing how elite you sound.
So I say NO and you say YES. Can you comment on the topic or are you going to ARGUE with me?
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Freezer7Pro
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Uzique wrote:

You are both a spectator-sport joke.
We know. Just sit back and enjoy the show.

And .Sup, how does one just reply to "Found this on wiki, I think it pretty much sums it up", that's so obviously posted due to an argument in another thread without arguing?

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The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
twoblacklines
all grown up now (its boring)
+49|6470

.Sup wrote:

twoblacklines wrote:

All the above cost me around £400 and is as good as some systems I have heard for £40k.
Sound quality is extremely noticeable when comparing a £400 and 10k> systems. I'm not saying you equipment doesn't sound good and I'm also not saying a 400 quid equipment can't be an audiophile setup but you saying your system sounds as good as high end ones confirms you are not an audiophile. Audiophiles would notice a huge difference.
Nope.

AND BTW i have built some IPL's for £800 in total that are way better than speakers costing 8k.
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Does it really matter if you both like your setups?
FatherTed
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i deleted my thread to end this shit.
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