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rammunition wrote:

also it has the vendor i.d, device i.d etc. how do i check them??
GPU-Z
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I get JUST under 10k with my HD4850 and AMD X2 4800+ @ 3GHz. With a Q6600, you should be getting at least 12-13K.

Post a screenshot of the main GPUz window pl0x.
Scorpion0x17
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Hmm...

Your CPU score is about right, so we can almost certainly rule that out.

But, your GPU scores are low. However, it's an AGP card. And it might not even be the card that's at fault.

As well as posting GPU-Z screenies, can you do CPU-Z RAM info screenies too, please - in case it's your RAM bottlenecking the card.
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GC_PaNzerFIN
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u know that there is ss funktion in CPU-Z and GPU-Z, right?

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-03-29 05:00:07)

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rammunition
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

u know that there is ss funktion in CPU-Z and GPU-Z, right?
???
GC_PaNzerFIN
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Press F5 to create ss of the CPU-Z screen in your installation folder. There is picture of camera in GPU-Z in top right. Click it to take screenshot of the GPU-Z.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-03-29 05:31:21)

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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Press F5 to create ss of the CPU-Z screen in your installation folder. There is picture of camera in GPU-Z in top right. Click it to take screenshot of the GPU-Z.
CPU-Z : any way to change it so that the ss is .jpg instead of .bmp, automatically?
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haffeysucks wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Press F5 to create ss of the CPU-Z screen in your installation folder. There is picture of camera in GPU-Z in top right. Click it to take screenshot of the GPU-Z.
CPU-Z : any way to change it so that the ss is .jpg instead of .bmp, automatically?
Dunno. At least I havent heard of that kind of possibility. Not a biggie convert tho.
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Press F5 to create ss of the CPU-Z screen in your installation folder. There is picture of camera in GPU-Z in top right. Click it to take screenshot of the GPU-Z.
CPU-Z : any way to change it so that the ss is .jpg instead of .bmp, automatically?
Dunno. At least I havent heard of that kind of possibility. Not a biggie convert tho.
i might as well keep alt+prtscrn and pasting into PS then.  i didn't know about that key though.
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Press F5 to create ss of the CPU-Z screen in your installation folder. There is picture of camera in GPU-Z in top right. Click it to take screenshot of the GPU-Z.
cool, didn't know that


here are better pics

GPU-Z

https://gpuz.techpowerup.com/09/03/29/ebc.png

CPU-z stuff

https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/cpu-2399.jpg


https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/memory-2400.jpg


https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/spd-1.jpg



anything seem wrong???
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I see nothing wrong with the GPU-Z screenshot, with the exception of the ASUS BIOS.
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alexbay13 wrote:

I see nothing wrong with the GPU-Z screenshot, with the exception of the ASUS BIOS.
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CrazeD wrote:

alexbay13 wrote:

I see nothing wrong with the GPU-Z screenshot, with the exception of the ASUS BIOS.
Likewise.

However, and this really shouldn't make that much difference, but it's worth a try - boot into BIOS and see if you can get your RAM speed matched to your CPU FSB - this will mean running your RAM below it's maximum supported speed, but it will remove wait-states (times when the CPU/RAM are waiting for each other because they're not sychronised).
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

But, your GPU scores are low. However, it's an AGP card. And it might not even be the card that's at fault
There are no AGP 4850s. You're thinking of 3850s.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

alexbay13 wrote:

I see nothing wrong with the GPU-Z screenshot, with the exception of the ASUS BIOS.
Likewise.

However, and this really shouldn't make that much difference, but it's worth a try - boot into BIOS and see if you can get your RAM speed matched to your CPU FSB - this will mean running your RAM below it's maximum supported speed, but it will remove wait-states (times when the CPU/RAM are waiting for each other because they're not sychronised).
His CPU scores are fine, that won't give any improvement.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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double blow, just looked round the net for 3dmark 06 scores with a 4850, read the OP on this link

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarking-s … ta-iv.html

wtf?? im well off to this guy

alexbay13 wrote:

I see nothing wrong with the GPU-Z screenshot, with the exception of the ASUS BIOS.
could it be that a different manufacturers bios can affect the card, as in provide loss rather than gain in performance???

Last edited by rammunition (2009-03-30 11:48:31)

GC_PaNzerFIN
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try flashing to the Gainward stock bios.
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CrazeD
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rammunition wrote:

double blow, just looked round the net for 3dmark 06 scores with a 4850, read the OP on this link

http://www.overclock.net/benchmarking-s … ta-iv.html

wtf?? im well off to this guy
Both of the scores on that link have high OC's on their CPU, which makes a HUGE difference in 3DMark06.
rammunition
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ok, i also remembered i have the fulll version of 3dmark vantage, here are my scores, right click view on below image


MY SYSTEM
https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/3dmark2.jpg


now comparing it with someone else who has a Q6600 and 4850 at stock, look at the below link

SOME RANDOM PERSONS SCORE WITH A Q6600 AND 4850 AT STOCK
http://www.soonet.ca/showthread.php?t=19754

https://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/malox/3DmarkVantageStockCPU_700_1100card_.jpg


CPU is fine, the GPU is at fault by 1200 points and i got mega less FPS in the tests

Last edited by rammunition (2009-03-31 02:24:08)

Scorpion0x17
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

But, your GPU scores are low. However, it's an AGP card. And it might not even be the card that's at fault
There are no AGP 4850s. You're thinking of 3850s.
I thought someone said it was AGP?

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CrazeD wrote:


Likewise.

However, and this really shouldn't make that much difference, but it's worth a try - boot into BIOS and see if you can get your RAM speed matched to your CPU FSB - this will mean running your RAM below it's maximum supported speed, but it will remove wait-states (times when the CPU/RAM are waiting for each other because they're not sychronised).
His CPU scores are fine, that won't give any improvement.
Yeah, it may help shift data to the card more efficiently though. I believe the CPU score is less dependant on RAM performance than the GPU score.

It may even make it worse - it depends on just how much overhead is being caused by have non-synchronous RAM.

It's just worth a try.
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

But, your GPU scores are low. However, it's an AGP card. And it might not even be the card that's at fault
There are no AGP 4850s. You're thinking of 3850s.
I thought someone said it was AGP?
You or someone else must have read wrong.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


Likewise.

However, and this really shouldn't make that much difference, but it's worth a try - boot into BIOS and see if you can get your RAM speed matched to your CPU FSB - this will mean running your RAM below it's maximum supported speed, but it will remove wait-states (times when the CPU/RAM are waiting for each other because they're not sychronised).
His CPU scores are fine, that won't give any improvement.
Yeah, it may help shift data to the card more efficiently though. I believe the CPU score is less dependant on RAM performance than the GPU score.

It may even make it worse - it depends on just how much overhead is being caused by have non-synchronous RAM.

It's just worth a try.
What would the GPU have to do with his system RAM? It's not a HyperMemory/TurboCache card.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Scorpion0x17
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

His CPU scores are fine, that won't give any improvement.
Yeah, it may help shift data to the card more efficiently though. I believe the CPU score is less dependant on RAM performance than the GPU score.

It may even make it worse - it depends on just how much overhead is being caused by have non-synchronous RAM.

It's just worth a try.
What would the GPU have to do with his system RAM? It's not a HyperMemory/TurboCache card.
It has everything to with it.

You ever written any graphics code, freezer?

Trust me, the performance of the GPU is very dependant on the performance of the RAM.

3DMark, and most games, use way more model and texture data than the video card can hold in video-ram - this data has to be held in system RAM and then transferred over to the video-card RAM when required - the better the system ram performance, the better it does the transfer.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-03-31 21:20:40)

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so what should i do and how to do it???

i ran 3Dmark vantage again and got the same score so its not a one off low score with the GPU
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I think he's saying check your ram?
Scorpion0x17
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CC-Marley wrote:

I think he's saying check your ram?
Not quite. I'm saying clock the RAM so that the RAM bus speed and the CPU FSB are the same.

rammunition wrote:

so what should i do and how to do it???

i ran 3Dmark vantage again and got the same score so its not a one off low score with the GPU
Exactly how you do it varies from BIOS to BIOS.

Unfortunately your mobo (and therefore BIOS) is not one that I know.

EDIT: have found what I think is a pdf of the manual for your mobo, and it looks like you need to get the highlighted values the same (as each other):

https://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7084/biosramandcpuspeedsetti.png

NOTE:
DO NOT change the CPU Host Frequency.
DO change the System Memory Multiplier (SPD) (which will, in turn, alter the Memory Frequency).

Get them the same then hit F10 to save and exit.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2009-04-01 15:49:06)

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