.Sup
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Currently SSD market is comprised almost entirely of manufacturers who are memory makers such as Corsair, OCZ, G.Skill, Super Talent, etc. It’s only a matter of time before the big boys of mechanical hard drive market like Western Digital and Seagate enter the Solid State Drive (SSD) market. But the question remains would they spend R&D $$$s or acquire a smaller SSD maker with the technical know-how. Starting today atleast onw of the big boys, Western Digital, looks to change that by acquiringSiliconSystems for $65 million. This company supplies SSDs for the embedded systems market and will now be known as the WD Solid-Stage Storage business unit.
About time you jumped in WD. I like their drives and I'm pretty sure WD will be a good competition to "veteran" SSD manufacturers.
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Mekstizzle
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SSD's seem like something that will forever be expensive and stuck at the niche level
.Sup
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+2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

Mekstizzle wrote:

SSD's seem like something that will forever be expensive and stuck at the niche level
A buddy just got his 2 OCZ SSDs from Newegg, 100$ a piece which isn't expensive at all. He always loads BF2 faster than the server
He says its way faster than his old Raptor.
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DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
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SSD's are mostly enthsiastic stuff, as are raptors. Wait till SAS becomes mainstream, that'll be
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
.Sup
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+2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

DeathUnlimited wrote:

SSD's are mostly enthsiastic stuff, as are raptors. Wait till SAS becomes mainstream, that'll be
All the components in my PC are enthusiastic stuff, BF2 works just fine on my old rig so I never actually needed a new PC
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unnamednewbie13
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jamiet757 wrote:

Are you guys kidding me? Look at how far down in price they have come in the last 6 months. It used to be you could get a 16GB SATA SSD for around $1000, now you can get one for a few hundred, and they have much larger capacities. I think in the near future we will all migrate to them, and they will be as cheap as flash drives are now.

BTW: that snippet is full of typos, it drove me nuts.
Except memory failure > HDD failure.

I can see myself using a SSD for OS and primary apps in the near future, but mechanical will always have a place in my heart for storage...and 'backing up' SSD info.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

Are you guys kidding me? Look at how far down in price they have come in the last 6 months. It used to be you could get a 16GB SATA SSD for around $1000, now you can get one for a few hundred, and they have much larger capacities. I think in the near future we will all migrate to them, and they will be as cheap as flash drives are now.

BTW: that snippet is full of typos, it drove me nuts.
Except memory failure > HDD failure.

I can see myself using a SSD for OS and primary apps in the near future, but mechanical will always have a place in my heart for storage...and 'backing up' SSD info.
I thought its the other way around: flash cards and usb keys never failed on me yet, HDDs did
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unnamednewbie13
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.Sup wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

Are you guys kidding me? Look at how far down in price they have come in the last 6 months. It used to be you could get a 16GB SATA SSD for around $1000, now you can get one for a few hundred, and they have much larger capacities. I think in the near future we will all migrate to them, and they will be as cheap as flash drives are now.

BTW: that snippet is full of typos, it drove me nuts.
Except memory failure > HDD failure.

I can see myself using a SSD for OS and primary apps in the near future, but mechanical will always have a place in my heart for storage...and 'backing up' SSD info.
I thought its the other way around: flash cards and usb keys never failed on me yet, HDDs did
Subjective experience, I guess. I've had to swap more memory devices than I ever did mechanical drives.
mikkel
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DeathUnlimited wrote:

SSD's are mostly enthsiastic stuff, as are raptors. Wait till SAS becomes mainstream, that'll be
SAS is just an interface. What's so awesome about it?
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7023|San Antonio, Texas

mikkel wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

SSD's are mostly enthsiastic stuff, as are raptors. Wait till SAS becomes mainstream, that'll be
SAS is just an interface. What's so awesome about it?
Uh... It's all solid, no moving parts, and it's a hell-a-lot faster then current HDDs.
mikkel
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{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

mikkel wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

SSD's are mostly enthsiastic stuff, as are raptors. Wait till SAS becomes mainstream, that'll be
SAS is just an interface. What's so awesome about it?
Uh... It's all solid, no moving parts, and it's a hell-a-lot faster then current HDDs.
You mean unlike (S)ATA and all the moving parts associated with these interfaces?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

mikkel wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

SSD's are mostly enthsiastic stuff, as are raptors. Wait till SAS becomes mainstream, that'll be
SAS is just an interface. What's so awesome about it?
Uh... It's all solid, no moving parts, and it's a hell-a-lot faster then current HDDs.
Like mikkel said its just an interface. Fiber optic is even better if it will be implemented into SSDs. The more popular sata3 will be out too
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mikkel
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.Sup wrote:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

mikkel wrote:


SAS is just an interface. What's so awesome about it?
Uh... It's all solid, no moving parts, and it's a hell-a-lot faster then current HDDs.
Like mikkel said its just an interface. Fiber optic is even better if it will be implemented into SSDs. The more popular sata3 will be out too
I don't really see a compelling reason to use optical interfaces to connect internal storage devices. The medium is more or less irrelevant, as any optical PHY specifications that can match current copper solutions will be way too expensive for mass production, way too complex if the optical core needs protection from the average consumer, and unless someone manages to seal a very favourable deal with Corning, way too fragile to use, let alone route, inside a regular computer case.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

mikkel wrote:

.Sup wrote:

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:


Uh... It's all solid, no moving parts, and it's a hell-a-lot faster then current HDDs.
Like mikkel said its just an interface. Fiber optic is even better if it will be implemented into SSDs. The more popular sata3 will be out too
I don't really see a compelling reason to use optical interfaces to connect internal storage devices. The medium is more or less irrelevant, as any optical PHY specifications that can match current copper solutions will be way too expensive for mass production, way too complex if the optical core needs protection from the average consumer, and unless someone manages to seal a very favourable deal with Corning, way too fragile to use, let alone route, inside a regular computer case.
It gives an even faster transfer rate than SAS. That was my only point of mentioning it.
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mikkel
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.Sup wrote:

mikkel wrote:

.Sup wrote:


Like mikkel said its just an interface. Fiber optic is even better if it will be implemented into SSDs. The more popular sata3 will be out too
I don't really see a compelling reason to use optical interfaces to connect internal storage devices. The medium is more or less irrelevant, as any optical PHY specifications that can match current copper solutions will be way too expensive for mass production, way too complex if the optical core needs protection from the average consumer, and unless someone manages to seal a very favourable deal with Corning, way too fragile to use, let alone route, inside a regular computer case.
It gives an even faster transfer rate than SAS. That was my only point of mentioning it.
Like I said, the throughput depends on the PHY, and it won't be economically viable to do anything optical that matches the throughput of current copper interfaces in the immediate future.
Defiance
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mikkel wrote:

.Sup wrote:

mikkel wrote:


I don't really see a compelling reason to use optical interfaces to connect internal storage devices. The medium is more or less irrelevant, as any optical PHY specifications that can match current copper solutions will be way too expensive for mass production, way too complex if the optical core needs protection from the average consumer, and unless someone manages to seal a very favourable deal with Corning, way too fragile to use, let alone route, inside a regular computer case.
It gives an even faster transfer rate than SAS. That was my only point of mentioning it.
Like I said, the throughput depends on the PHY, and it won't be economically viable to do anything optical that matches the throughput of current copper interfaces in the immediate future.
I don't think there was ever an argument for it's economic viability, just that in the world of performance, someone may try it.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7035|PNW

Defiance wrote:

mikkel wrote:

.Sup wrote:

It gives an even faster transfer rate than SAS. That was my only point of mentioning it.
Like I said, the throughput depends on the PHY, and it won't be economically viable to do anything optical that matches the throughput of current copper interfaces in the immediate future.
I don't think there was ever an argument for it's economic viability, just that in the world of performance, someone may try it.
There's performance and then there's overboard. [edit: with current drive limitations] It would be about as cool as a 20lb iPod.

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mikkel
Member
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Defiance wrote:

mikkel wrote:

.Sup wrote:


It gives an even faster transfer rate than SAS. That was my only point of mentioning it.
Like I said, the throughput depends on the PHY, and it won't be economically viable to do anything optical that matches the throughput of current copper interfaces in the immediate future.
I don't think there was ever an argument for it's economic viability, just that in the world of performance, someone may try it.
There's always a business case, and it if it isn't viable, the product will fail. The margins in the consumer PC industry are tighter than a nubile high school freshman, and there's no room for pandering to enthusiasts by selling at a loss something as unglamourous as a storage interface that won't really fare much better than the alternatives.
CrazeD
Member
+368|6936|Maine

.Sup wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jamiet757 wrote:

Are you guys kidding me? Look at how far down in price they have come in the last 6 months. It used to be you could get a 16GB SATA SSD for around $1000, now you can get one for a few hundred, and they have much larger capacities. I think in the near future we will all migrate to them, and they will be as cheap as flash drives are now.

BTW: that snippet is full of typos, it drove me nuts.
Except memory failure > HDD failure.

I can see myself using a SSD for OS and primary apps in the near future, but mechanical will always have a place in my heart for storage...and 'backing up' SSD info.
I thought its the other way around: flash cards and usb keys never failed on me yet, HDDs did
No, SSD's fuck up quickly when you write a lot of data to them.

EDIT: And by write a lot of data, I mean as in using an SSD as an OS drive for example. You'd be constantly writing data, and it won't take long for it to fuck up.

Last edited by CrazeD (2009-03-31 01:37:21)

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