Poll

Should The Republicans Have Put Forward A Black Presidential Nominee?

Yes - That Would Have Won Them The Election17%17% - 9
No - It Wouldn't Have Made Much Difference82%82% - 42
Total: 51
usmarine
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DonFck wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

as Europeans he's doing okay so far by our expectations.
wow...i need to move to europe then.
Welcome! Hell, you can sleep on my couch until you find your own place.
can i claim political asylum or whatever?  then the govt would hook me up with a job and such?
lowing
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Braddock wrote:

pilebomb wrote:

No, having a black nominee for no other reason than the fact that Obama is black would not work. Republicans ALREADY tried this tactic against him for the Illinois senators seat. Brought in Alan Keyes from Maryland who just got massacred in the polls.
Alan Keyes, conservative political activist, author, former diplomat, and perennial candidate for public office... a man who threw his hat into the ring in the Presidential race in 1996 and yet strangely wasn't swept into power by the single-minded voting policies of black America! How does this square with your race card argument lowing?
No Oprah bump. Remember, it is celebrity worship as well Braddock.
Braddock
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

pilebomb wrote:

No, having a black nominee for no other reason than the fact that Obama is black would not work. Republicans ALREADY tried this tactic against him for the Illinois senators seat. Brought in Alan Keyes from Maryland who just got massacred in the polls.
Alan Keyes, conservative political activist, author, former diplomat, and perennial candidate for public office... a man who threw his hat into the ring in the Presidential race in 1996 and yet strangely wasn't swept into power by the single-minded voting policies of black America! How does this square with your race card argument lowing?
No Oprah bump. Remember, it is celebrity worship as well Braddock.
Shifting the goalposts a little aren't we? And why pray tell didn't Oprah give him the thumbs up? Is it perchance because black people take policy into account when they decide which candidate to back? Surely not!
DonFck
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usmarine wrote:

DonFck wrote:

usmarine wrote:

wow...i need to move to europe then.
Welcome! Hell, you can sleep on my couch until you find your own place.
can i claim political asylum or whatever?  then the govt would hook me up with a job and such?
New legislation should soon allow refugees to work before being granted asylum. If you get a working visa, you can claim unemployment benefits until you find a job. The govt won't hook you up with a job, but they will look for one suitable for you when you have registered yourself as an unemployed jobseeker (compulsary if you want unemployment benefits).
I need around tree fiddy.
usmarine
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DonFck wrote:

usmarine wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Welcome! Hell, you can sleep on my couch until you find your own place.
can i claim political asylum or whatever?  then the govt would hook me up with a job and such?
New legislation should soon allow refugees to work before being granted asylum. If you get a working visa, you can claim unemployment benefits until you find a job. The govt won't hook you up with a job, but they will look for one suitable for you when you have registered yourself as an unemployed jobseeker (compulsary if you want unemployment benefits).
hmmm... fluff the pillows dear sir.
DonFck
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usmarine wrote:

DonFck wrote:

usmarine wrote:


can i claim political asylum or whatever?  then the govt would hook me up with a job and such?
New legislation should soon allow refugees to work before being granted asylum. If you get a working visa, you can claim unemployment benefits until you find a job. The govt won't hook you up with a job, but they will look for one suitable for you when you have registered yourself as an unemployed jobseeker (compulsary if you want unemployment benefits).
hmmm... fluff the pillows dear sir.
I have some Spongebob sheets with your name on them for my sofabed.
I need around tree fiddy.
Pug
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I can't see the wisdom of putting forth a black GOP nominee, unless the goal is to win the most blackness competition instead of being 50-50.

Ps. WTF?
lowing
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Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Alan Keyes, conservative political activist, author, former diplomat, and perennial candidate for public office... a man who threw his hat into the ring in the Presidential race in 1996 and yet strangely wasn't swept into power by the single-minded voting policies of black America! How does this square with your race card argument lowing?
No Oprah bump. Remember, it is celebrity worship as well Braddock.
Shifting the goalposts a little aren't we? And why pray tell didn't Oprah give him the thumbs up? Is it perchance because black people take policy into account when they decide which candidate to back? Surely not!
Nope it is because he never had a chance in the first place.

They didn't call it Obamamania for nothing. Obamamania took on a life of its own to the point where issues didn't matter. IT WAS OBAMA, and notheing else mattered.
..teddy..jimmy
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Flecco wrote:

No.

Not as some sort of petty retaliation to Obama.



Should they run one in an election soon? Yes, but he has to be backed an awesome PR team just as Obama was.
That was a point I was trying to make to lowing. It's very easy to say race is what won it for Obama but to do that would be to deny one of the most forward-thinking online campaigns in the history of US politics. Obama's web team were thinking outside the box at every juncture while McCain was struggling to keep up with what Google was.
Braddock, time to be fair here.

I never said he was elected because he was black solely. Being Black only solidified the minority vote

I said he was elected because, coupled with his race, and the votes that drew, he was made out to be celebrity, a rock star. People fainting at the sight of him. He was made out to be the second coming Christ. 

All of what I just mentioned along with the entitlement attitude that America embraces is what got him elected. Celebrity worship and not the issues saw him into the white house.
lowing has a point. I'm sure this helped
Braddock
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:


No Oprah bump. Remember, it is celebrity worship as well Braddock.
Shifting the goalposts a little aren't we? And why pray tell didn't Oprah give him the thumbs up? Is it perchance because black people take policy into account when they decide which candidate to back? Surely not!
Nope it is because he never had a chance in the first place.

They didn't call it Obamamania for nothing. Obamamania took on a life of its own to the point where issues didn't matter. IT WAS OBAMA, and notheing else mattered.
Why didn't he stand a chance in the first place? He was black.. that trumps all for a black voter according to your argument.
usmarine
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DonFck wrote:

I have some Spongebob sheets with your name on them for my sofabed.
well the day may come to that......who knows.
Braddock
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


That was a point I was trying to make to lowing. It's very easy to say race is what won it for Obama but to do that would be to deny one of the most forward-thinking online campaigns in the history of US politics. Obama's web team were thinking outside the box at every juncture while McCain was struggling to keep up with what Google was.
Braddock, time to be fair here.

I never said he was elected because he was black solely. Being Black only solidified the minority vote

I said he was elected because, coupled with his race, and the votes that drew, he was made out to be celebrity, a rock star. People fainting at the sight of him. He was made out to be the second coming Christ. 

All of what I just mentioned along with the entitlement attitude that America embraces is what got him elected. Celebrity worship and not the issues saw him into the white house.
lowing has a point. I'm sure this helped
What lowing is missing is that, like many other Presidents in the past, Obama had all the right ingredients, but for some reason lowing can only focus on the black ingredient. Obama is young, dynamic, charismatic, articulate, he oozes calmness, has an aura of wisdom and intelligence and had all the right policies as far as the majority of the American people were concerned... he is also black. Lowing has been consistently suggesting that black voters the length and breadth of the country did not care about all these other factors and only voted for him because he was a 'brotha', which is incredibly insulting towards black people.
Doctor Strangelove
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For every person who only voted for him because he was black, I'd reckon there was one that only didn't vote for him for the same reason.

Remember that most Negroes will always vote for the Democrat, no matter what.
lowing
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Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


Shifting the goalposts a little aren't we? And why pray tell didn't Oprah give him the thumbs up? Is it perchance because black people take policy into account when they decide which candidate to back? Surely not!
Nope it is because he never had a chance in the first place.

They didn't call it Obamamania for nothing. Obamamania took on a life of its own to the point where issues didn't matter. IT WAS OBAMA, and notheing else mattered.
Why didn't he stand a chance in the first place? He was black.. that trumps all for a black voter according to your argument.
No it doesn't because a black voter will not throw away their vote to anyone who doesn't appear to have a chance. They will take the safe play and vote for the democrat. IF a republican black candidate appeared to actually have a chance to win, issues would not matter and he would win their vote.
GravyDan
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All hail president Kimbo Slice.
Mitch
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ALAN KEYS

Coulda saved the world tbh

But im sorry to say, i honestly believe that the elections are so so so greatly influenced by the liberal, government, criminal controlled media, that it would not matter. Who's to say voted are even counted? In this day and age, with the unbelievable shit going on, i wouldn't be suprised.

Last edited by Mitch (2009-03-31 09:15:24)

15 more years! 15 more years!
lowing
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Braddock wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

lowing wrote:


Braddock, time to be fair here.

I never said he was elected because he was black solely. Being Black only solidified the minority vote

I said he was elected because, coupled with his race, and the votes that drew, he was made out to be celebrity, a rock star. People fainting at the sight of him. He was made out to be the second coming Christ. 

All of what I just mentioned along with the entitlement attitude that America embraces is what got him elected. Celebrity worship and not the issues saw him into the white house.
lowing has a point. I'm sure this helped
What lowing is missing is that, like many other Presidents in the past, Obama had all the right ingredients, but for some reason lowing can only focus on the black ingredient. Obama is young, dynamic, charismatic, articulate, he oozes calmness, has an aura of wisdom and intelligence and had all the right policies as far as the majority of the American people were concerned... he is also black. Lowing has been consistently suggesting that black voters the length and breadth of the country did not care about all these other factors and only voted for him because he was a 'brotha', which is incredibly insulting towards black people.
And all of those ingredients that you say Obama has can not be blended with experience because he has none. "Aura" and nothing tangible, certainly not background, is EXACTLY what got him elected.
Braddock
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Mitch wrote:

ALAN KEYS

Coulda saved the world tbh

But im sorry to say, i honestly believe that the elections are so so so greatly influenced by the liberal, government, criminal controlled media, that it would not matter. Who's to say voted are even counted? In this day and age, with the unbelievable shit going on, i wouldn't be suprised.
Shoulda saved the world via the black vote according to lowing tbh.

The elections obviously weren't controlled by the "liberal, government, criminal controlled media" for the last 8 years considering the Republicans won both elections (the first in highly controversial, potentially illegal circumstances too).
Braddock
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:


lowing has a point. I'm sure this helped
What lowing is missing is that, like many other Presidents in the past, Obama had all the right ingredients, but for some reason lowing can only focus on the black ingredient. Obama is young, dynamic, charismatic, articulate, he oozes calmness, has an aura of wisdom and intelligence and had all the right policies as far as the majority of the American people were concerned... he is also black. Lowing has been consistently suggesting that black voters the length and breadth of the country did not care about all these other factors and only voted for him because he was a 'brotha', which is incredibly insulting towards black people.
And all of those ingredients that you say Obama has can not be blended with experience because he has none. "Aura" and nothing tangible, certainly not background, is EXACTLY what got him elected.
Experience doesn't seem to count for much in the eyes of Republicans though lowing, they wanted to back Sarah Palin because she knew what it was like to drive kids to soccer matches.
Mitch
16 more years
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Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


What lowing is missing is that, like many other Presidents in the past, Obama had all the right ingredients, but for some reason lowing can only focus on the black ingredient. Obama is young, dynamic, charismatic, articulate, he oozes calmness, has an aura of wisdom and intelligence and had all the right policies as far as the majority of the American people were concerned... he is also black. Lowing has been consistently suggesting that black voters the length and breadth of the country did not care about all these other factors and only voted for him because he was a 'brotha', which is incredibly insulting towards black people.
And all of those ingredients that you say Obama has can not be blended with experience because he has none. "Aura" and nothing tangible, certainly not background, is EXACTLY what got him elected.
Experience doesn't seem to count for much in the eyes of Republicans though lowing, they wanted to back Sarah Palin because she knew what it was like to drive kids to soccer matches.
Sarah Palin is real. Not a robotic political droid like everyone else currently in power. She believed in the American way, she knew how most real world people thought.

Obama has no experience. Period. It's a shame he was elected into the most powerful seat.
15 more years! 15 more years!
13rin
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Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


What lowing is missing is that, like many other Presidents in the past, Obama had all the right ingredients, but for some reason lowing can only focus on the black ingredient. Obama is young, dynamic, charismatic, articulate, he oozes calmness, has an aura of wisdom and intelligence and had all the right policies as far as the majority of the American people were concerned... he is also black. Lowing has been consistently suggesting that black voters the length and breadth of the country did not care about all these other factors and only voted for him because he was a 'brotha', which is incredibly insulting towards black people.
And all of those ingredients that you say Obama has can not be blended with experience because he has none. "Aura" and nothing tangible, certainly not background, is EXACTLY what got him elected.
Experience doesn't seem to count for much in the eyes of Republicans though lowing, they wanted to back Sarah Palin because she knew what it was like to drive kids to soccer matches.
She had more leading experience than the Community Organizer.  She was/is a dumb pick though.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Man With No Name
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The republicans put up a clown as chairman of the RNC.  Its so painfully obvious the reason why they put him up.

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Man With No Name
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

And all of those ingredients that you say Obama has can not be blended with experience because he has none. "Aura" and nothing tangible, certainly not background, is EXACTLY what got him elected.
Experience doesn't seem to count for much in the eyes of Republicans though lowing, they wanted to back Sarah Palin because she knew what it was like to drive kids to soccer matches.
She had more leading experience than the Community Organizer.  She was/is a dumb pick though.
McCain thought she was ready to be president a few months ago.  when asked if he would support her run in 2012 yesterday, he did not commit.

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-03-31 10:19:59)

unnamednewbie13
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Null bloody vote. Why is this even a thread?
loubot
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At the rate that the american people are going to focus more on outer appearence, some day we will end up voting for this guy.
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