My ATi 4850 is performing shitter than my 8800GT

2009-04-04 17:39:42

#101

CrazeD: Member; +368|6936|Maine

rammunition wrote:
ok, i set the bus back to auto, i have work again in 1h 30 minutes, i wont be free on sunday as im going drayton manor.

2 questions, how long does it take to flash using the dos method, 2nd- can i use a memorycard in a memorycard reader as a bootable thing?

1. Like, 30 seconds.
2. No.

2009-04-07 02:04:14

#102

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

ok, i am going to quickly flash the card now before i head to the gym.

now i am following this step.

http://www.overclock.net/4845988-post12.html

i made the bootable usb and am on the ati bios bit. i have the bios and renamed it. bit my question is do i put the bios on the USB or do i leave it on the desktop???

2009-04-07 02:12:11

#103

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6677|Finland

You can put it in the USB. Keep one copy under very simple drive path too just in case.

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2009-04-07 02:19:28

#104

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

so i have put it on the usb, will this path be ok using ati flash

atiflash -p -f 0 newbios.rom (Forced Bios Flashing)

2009-04-07 02:30:11

#105

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6677|Finland

I'm not familiar with atiflash, what ever the guide says...

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2009-04-07 02:50:43

#106

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

ok, i emailed the guy and he said to but on the usb, i am going to flash now, wish me luck,lol

2009-04-07 03:10:13

#107

Brasso: member; +1,549|6893

gl

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-04-07 03:20:49

#108

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

thanks, ok i went into the dos this and typed this backup command in to see if it works

atiflash -s backup.rom

where there is a space, i put a space but the command was not recognised. the dos line started as C\ but my bootbale drive is a H drive.

so it was typed in as

c:\atiflash -s backup.rom

any help?

2009-04-07 14:05:31

#109

Brasso: member; +1,549|6893

use the command "cd" to change to the H:\ drive

e.g. "cd H;\" i think.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-04-07 14:28:02

#110

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6677|Finland

actually just type H:

and it should go to the bootable drive. You can type DIR to see list of the files in there.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-04-07 14:28:44)

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2009-04-07 14:47:44

#111

Brasso: member; +1,549|6893

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
actually just type H:

and it should go to the bootable drive. You can type DIR to see list of the files in there.

oh, that works too

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-04-08 02:44:56

#112

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

ok, i have tried the above suggestions still no luck, but when i typed in DIR it tells me that C is the bootdisk

https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/IMG_3248.jpg

the commands still dont work

2009-04-08 02:58:41

#113

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

you can't CD to your main HDD. It can't read NTFS partitions. Put the bios file in the root directory of your USB stick. Flash with "atiflash -p -f 0 bios.rom".

When you boot from the stick C: is the stick and H: probs doesn't even exist.

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2009-04-08 03:00:35

#114

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

try just running ATIFLASH.EXE and see what happens. (Just type ATIFLASH.EXE in caps)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-08 03:05:10

#115

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

max wrote:
you can't CD to your main HDD. It can't read NTFS partitions. Put the bios file in the root directory of your USB stick. Flash with "atiflash -p -f 0 bios.rom".

When you boot from the stick C: is the stick and H: probs doesn't even exist.

the usb is a fat32, formatted it when i created the boot disk. the bios is on the usb, its named newbios.rom.

it says its a H:\ drive in my computer

Freezer7Pro wrote:
try just running ATIFLASH.EXE and see what happens. (Just type ATIFLASH.EXE in caps)

will do so now

Last edited by rammunition (2009-04-08 03:05:29)

2009-04-08 03:10:58

#116

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

when you boot from the stick, the partition on the stick becomes C:. When you boot from the stick the partition H: doesn't exist

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-04-08 03:23:43

#117

Brasso: member; +1,549|6893

rammunition wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
try just running ATIFLASH.EXE and see what happens. (Just type ATIFLASH.EXE in caps)
will do so now

aren't they just run with the name? (no .exe)

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-04-08 03:35:56

#118

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

haffeysucks wrote:
rammunition wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
try just running ATIFLASH.EXE and see what happens. (Just type ATIFLASH.EXE in caps)
will do so now
aren't they just run with the name? (no .exe)

Depends on the version of DOS etc. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't, just running the program without tags can be a good way to ensure that your file actually works.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-08 03:40:29

#119

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

still no luck here is another pic of commands i have tried

https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/IMG_3250.jpg

2009-04-08 03:42:37

#120

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

Try giving it a shorter name, like ATI.EXE and BAK.ROM for the backup.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-04-08 03:43:08)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-08 03:48:28

#121

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

another thing, does it matter if the bios is a .bin or .rom file?

2009-04-08 03:50:53

#122

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6460|Winland

rammunition wrote:
another thing, does it matter if the bios is a .bin or .rom file?

Depends on the flasher. Checked the readme?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-04-08 08:04:09

#123

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

ok, i managed to flash the card successfully

the suggested code was

atiflash -p -f 0 newbios.rom

is swapped the -f with 0 so i put in this

atiflash -p 0 -f newbios.rom

and it worked

here is a new screeny with 3dmark vantage scores

https://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/Rammunition1/gpu-1.jpg

still a little dissapointed with the GPU score, was hoping for at least 6900

also according to the below link, crysis @ 1680×1050 with AA set to 4x and everything very high should be about 24FPS, i just tested my computer and i only get 22FPS with everything on Very high @ 1280x1024.

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-revie … rd-review/

im going to reformat tomorrow so will post new benchies, hopefully it will help

2009-04-08 08:06:08

#124

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6677|Finland

That is withing 5% marginal that can be caused by many many things like different drivers. Your card works just fine now.

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2009-04-08 08:16:38

#125

rammunition: Fully Loaded; +143|6125

true, im glad its alright now, and i now know how to flash a ati card

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