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rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

I justify it because the Jews are not a threat to anyone except those that want and plot their destruction. I do not view the Jews as people set out to convert the world to Islam.( Regardless if you think they could succeed or not).

Fair enough, hardcore Jews seem more concerned with keeping themselves separate from Gentiles than in converting them but you must admit they have a very separatist view of the world, in which they are the "chosen" people. I would argue however that the Israelis are no longer a threat to the West now only because their original campaign of violence against Western occupiers in the region was met with appeasement and the granting of Zionist wishes, they have no need to continue fighting the West now... the same can't really be said for Islam.

lowing wrote:

Islam also does not have a violent history, it has a violent present.

Zionism is still pretty damn violent in the holy land these days and many would agree that right-wing Christianity was most likely a factor in the bogus invasion of Iraq by George Dubya.


As I have pointed out already, the Zionist movement were happy to bomb market places and hotels in the name of their cause before the West caved in to the pressure and appeased them, now the Israelis market themselves as "innocent victims" of the terrorism of their neighbours... the same terrorism they themselves were once so fond of. You have picked your side in this battle and you shape the facts to fit your view accordingly... for you it is okay for a Jew to achieve political aims through murder and violence but not a Muslim.

The problem is Braddock, Israel is only interested in being left alone, attacked and they will retaliate. Left alone and they will do the same in turn.

The difference is I guess, IF Israel gets left alone, peace would follow. IF Israel were destroyed, it would be viewed as a victory by Islam and "Gods will". Here, it would not end, here, it then becomes, "okay, who is next"? Islam has no interest in peaceful co-existence, ( WITH ANYONE). To Islam, peace is achieved when the world is converted to Islam, and there is no more resistence to its rule.

why would "islam" want to destory israel


"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]


doesn't seem like "islam" wants israel destroyed does it.

Cybargs wrote:

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

The problem is Braddock, Israel is only interested in being left alone, attacked and they will retaliate. Left alone and they will do the same in turn.

The difference is I guess, IF Israel gets left alone, peace would follow. IF Israel were destroyed, it would be viewed as a victory by Islam and "Gods will". Here, it would not end, here, it then becomes, "okay, who is next"? Islam has no interest in peaceful co-existence, ( WITH ANYONE). To Islam, peace is achieved when the world is converted to Islam, and there is no more resistence to its rule.

why would "islam" want to destory israel


"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]


doesn't seem like "islam" wants israel destroyed does it.

So the whole anti-jew thing was just a myth? Thanks for informing us rammunition, I would never know that Islam is such a religion of peace if it wasn't for you <3

rammunition wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

rammunition wrote:

why would "islam" want to destory israel


"And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]


doesn't seem like "islam" wants israel destroyed does it.

So the whole anti-jew thing was just a myth? Thanks for informing us rammunition, I would never know that Islam is such a religion of peace if it wasn't for you <3

look, im not muslim, i dont believe in any religion.


“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”


David Ben-Gurion

M.O.A.B wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

So the whole anti-jew thing was just a myth? Thanks for informing us rammunition, I would never know that Islam is such a religion of peace if it wasn't for you <3

look, im not muslim, i dont believe in any religion.


“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”


David Ben-Gurion

Look back far enough and the land they occupy now was stolen by Arabs. Come full circle.

Last edited by rammunition (2009-04-11 10:21:03)

Cybargs wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

So the whole anti-jew thing was just a myth? Thanks for informing us rammunition, I would never know that Islam is such a religion of peace if it wasn't for you <3

look, im not muslim, i dont believe in any religion.


“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”


David Ben-Gurion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab-Nazi_ … rld_War_II

Lotta_Drool wrote:

But I work with Muslims and they are very nice people.  Nobody has cut my head off or anything yet. 

Not sure if I work with Jews because they don't dress all fucked up and shit.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

^^^^ wtf, I don't work with anyone that looks like that.

Last edited by rammunition (2009-04-12 03:22:53)

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

I view Israel as defenders. You hate them because they have beat back all agression against them., and turned the tables where they are making sure they keep all rabid dogs chained chained down. I do not blame them, for as soon as they relax their posture, they will be taken advanage of. It is naive to think otherwise. The jews can live with Islam. Islam will not live with the Jews, ( other than keeping the Jews in servitude, or a second class citizens)

AussieReaper wrote:

Islamist are rabid dogs, lowing?

Dodge, dodge, dodge.

Last edited by lowing (2009-04-12 05:50:50)

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

I view Israel as defenders. You hate them because they have beat back all agression against them., and turned the tables where they are making sure they keep all rabid dogs chained chained down. I do not blame them, for as soon as they relax their posture, they will be taken advanage of. It is naive to think otherwise. The jews can live with Islam. Islam will not live with the Jews, ( other than keeping the Jews in servitude, or a second class citizens)

AussieReaper wrote:

Islamist are rabid dogs, lowing?

Dodge, dodge, dodge.

Nope never said that, a rabid dog is crazy and does not know what he is doing, he is completely out of character.

Islam knows exactly what it is doing and is in complete character based on the teachings of the child molester/murderer Muhammad.


Feel free to address what I posted by the way. Disagree with it even, if you can honestly.

rammunition wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

I view Israel as defenders. You hate them because they have beat back all agression against them., and turned the tables where they are making sure they keep all rabid dogs chained chained down. I do not blame them, for as soon as they relax their posture, they will be taken advanage of. It is naive to think otherwise. The jews can live with Islam. Islam will not live with the Jews, ( other than keeping the Jews in servitude, or a second class citizens)

Dodge, dodge, dodge.

Nope never said that, a rabid dog is crazy and does not know what he is doing, he is completely out of character.

Islam knows exactly what it is doing and is complete character based on the teaching of the child molester/murderer Muhammad.


Feel free to address what I posted by the way. Disagree with it even, if you can honestly.

who is "islam" and who is their current leader on earth?

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

I view Israel as defenders. You hate them because they have beat back all agression against them., and turned the tables where they are making sure they keep all rabid dogs chained chained down. I do not blame them, for as soon as they relax their posture, they will be taken advanage of. It is naive to think otherwise. The jews can live with Islam. Islam will not live with the Jews, ( other than keeping the Jews in servitude, or a second class citizens)

Dodge, dodge, dodge.

Nope never said that, a rabid dog is crazy and does not know what he is doing, he is completely out of character.

Islam knows exactly what it is doing and is in complete character based on the teachings of the child molester/murderer Muhammad.


Feel free to address what I posted by the way. Disagree with it even, if you can honestly.

Didn't say that? The analogy was made pretty clear.

I could address your posts but the way you constantly state the "evils" of Muhammad without ever addressing the "evils" of any other religion is proof enough you aren't willing to discuss, only argue.

Should we start with the Israel are the defenders part first? Because they arrived after Palestinians...

Care to look at the border changes over the last 60 years? Now tell me who is losing land.