Catbox
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Hijacked German Vessel Heads Back to Somalia After Attempt to Reach Standoff
sure...pussies  lol   
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,514415,00.html
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skipper2666
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Reciprocity
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"they want to resolve this in the traditional somali way of negotiations."


shut the fuck up.  you khat sucking dipshits hit up the wrong fucking ship.  now give us our boy back and we may only kill you and not your whole fucking family.  this bullshit may fly with all the pussies around the world but not with us. 


who here wants to see bloated somali corpses drift onto sunny somali beaches?

Last edited by Reciprocity (2009-04-11 00:22:45)

some_random_panda
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Reciprocity wrote:

they're bringing an enormous amount of force to bear to show these somalis just how universally screwed they are.  i think it would be funny if we paid the $2mil ransom in cash, recovered the hostage, and guaranteed safe passage to land.  at which point we'd drop about $5mil worth of munitions on their skinny asses.
And potentially get every other hostage killed?  They need to think about other countries as well if they want continued support for the Middle East.
Reciprocity
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some_random_panda wrote:

And potentially get every other hostage killed?  They need to think about other countries as well if they want continued support for the Middle East.
those other countries don't seem to give shit about their own people, why should I?  these fucking animals need to be dealt with.
Bertster7
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Reciprocity wrote:

some_random_panda wrote:

And potentially get every other hostage killed?  They need to think about other countries as well if they want continued support for the Middle East.
those other countries don't seem to give shit about their own people, why should I?  these fucking animals need to be dealt with.
What are you talking about?

You want to blow up all the pirates hostages? You justify that by saying if they don't give a shit about them (which I take to mean, haven't rescued them yet), why should you? That is an exceedingly stupid, selfish and unhelpful viewpoint demonstrating an extraordinary level of ignorance about the wider situation. That sort of complete disregard for human life, particularly that of your allies, is not looked on well by the rest of the world. I'm sure the Germans would be delighted that the US navy had just blown up one of their ships with a few dozen German hostages on board.

Also, good work by the French (you know, those pussies from the rest of the world) in managing to rescue the French famillies being held hostage by the pirates. It's a shame one of the 5 hostages was killed in the rescue, but they were warned not to go there and so they did kind of bring it on themselves.
RAIMIUS
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Tell me again how blowing up a lifeboat full of pirates causes hostages on OTHER ships to die?
Pochsy
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RAIMIUS wrote:

Tell me again how blowing up a lifeboat full of pirates causes hostages on OTHER ships to die?
I'm going to go with the shock of watching another man die causes them to suicide. /jk
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FatherTed
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RAIMIUS wrote:

Tell me again how blowing up a lifeboat full of pirates causes hostages on OTHER ships to die?
Because the pirates have a hostage on their boat? lol
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Reciprocity wrote:

they're bringing an enormous amount of force to bear to show these somalis just how universally screwed they are.  i think it would be funny if we paid the $2mil ransom in cash, recovered the hostage, and guaranteed safe passage to land.  at which point we'd drop about $5mil worth of munitions on their skinny asses.
Nah, just need 1 phalanx.  4500 rounds per minute of 20mm anyone?
Kmar
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This should have been dealt with before they had hostages. Now they have leverage.
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Stingray24
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Precisely.  But once this hostage situation is resolved we need to use up some surplus ammo.
RAIMIUS
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FatherTed wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

Tell me again how blowing up a lifeboat full of pirates causes hostages on OTHER ships to die?
Because the pirates have a hostage on their boat? lol
The hypotheticals mentioned above included getting the hostage off of that boat before blowing it up...
Kmar
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US sea captain freed in swift firefight
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090412/ap_on_re_af/piracy
3 out of 4 dead pirates. One in custody, and the Captain is unharmed.

Sweet feathery hell

When Phillips' crew heard the news aboard their ship in the port of Mombasa, they placed an American flag over the rail of the top of the Maersk Alabama and whistled and pumped their fists in the air. Crew fired a bright red flare into the sky from the ship.

A government official and others in Somalia with knowledge of the situation had reported hours earlier that negotiations for Phillips' release had broken down.

Talks to free him began Thursday with the captain of the USS Bainbridge talking to the pirates under instruction from FBI hostage negotiators on board the U.S. destroyer. The pirates had threatened to kill Phillips if attacked.

Three U.S. warships were within easy reach of the lifeboat on Saturday. The U.S. Navy had assumed the pirates would try to get their hostage to shore, where they can hide him on Somalia's lawless soil and be in a stronger position to negotiate a ransom.

Maersk Line said before news of the rescue broke that "the U.S. Navy had sight contact" of Phillips — apparently when the pirates opened the hatches.

Before Phillips was freed, a pirate who said he was associated with the gang that held Phillips, Ahmed Mohamed Nur, told The Associated Press that the pirates had reported that "helicopters continue to fly over their heads in the daylight and in the night they are under the focus of a spotlight from a warship."

He spoke by satellite phone from Harardhere, a port and pirate stronghold where a fisherman said helicopters flew over the town Sunday morning and a warship was looming on the horizon. The fisherman, Abdi Sheikh Muse, said that could be an indication the lifeboat may be near to shore.

The district commissioner of the central Mudug region said talks went on all day Saturday, with clan elders from his area talking by satellite telephone and through a translator with Americans, but collapsed late Saturday night.

"The negotiations between the elders and American officials have broken down. The reason is American officials wanted to arrest the pirates in Puntland and elders refused the arrest of the pirates," said the commissioner, Abdi Aziz Aw Yusuf. He said he organized initial contacts between the elders and the Americans.

Two other Somalis, one involved in the negotiations and another in contact with the pirates, also said the talks collapsed because of the U.S. insistence that the pirates be arrested and brought to justice."
Captain jumps overboard, SEALs shoot pirates, official says
(CNN) -- The American captain of a cargo ship held hostage by pirates jumped overboard from the lifeboat where he was being held, and U.S. Navy SEALs shot and killed three of his four captors, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the situation.

Capt. Richard Phillips was helped out of the water off the Somali coast and is uninjured and in good condition, the official said. He was taken aboard the USS Bainbridge, a nearby naval warship.

At the time of the shootings, the fourth pirate was aboard the Bainbridge negotiating with officials, the source said. That pirate was taken into custody.

Maersk Line Limited, owner of the cargo ship that Phillips captained, issued a statement saying it was informed at 1:30 p.m. by the U.S. government that he had been rescued. John Reinhart, president and CEO, called Phillips' wife, Andrea, to tell her the good news.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04 … index.html
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FEOS
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I was wondering how long that would take. Probably just long enough to get the team deployed and run through the op a few times.

SEALs are some bad mofos.
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Catbox
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Fuck yeah... great news... I hope we beef up security on the tankers so this doesn't happen again...
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RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7128|US
Hopefully the other pirates in the region take note: Don't mess with the US.
It's too bad people had to die, but I hold little sympathy for pirates.  When you threaten to murder people, don't expect to live very long.
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|7130|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

Stingray24 wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

they're bringing an enormous amount of force to bear to show these somalis just how universally screwed they are.  i think it would be funny if we paid the $2mil ransom in cash, recovered the hostage, and guaranteed safe passage to land.  at which point we'd drop about $5mil worth of munitions on their skinny asses.
Nah, just need 1 phalanx.  4500 rounds per minute of 20mm anyone?
Oddly enough, I was thinking the exact same thing earlier.  Next time the saw the captain jump out, just open up with one of those things.  No more pirates, no more life boat, no more problem.  Of course, now it seems the swapped the Phalanx for a SEAL team, but the end result was the same.

Great to see they got the captain back.

RAIMIUS wrote:

Hopefully the other pirates in the region take note: Don't mess with the US.
It's too bad people had to die, but I hold little sympathy for pirates.  When you threaten to murder people, don't expect to live very long.
Apparently they needed a reminder as to why the shores of Tripoli are in the Marine Corp Hymn.

Last edited by mcgid1 (2009-04-12 13:43:58)

ATG
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Seals=badass.
lowing
Banned
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Does the fact that this pirate crew was killed to save the capt. represent the first time anyone has ever done anything except appease the pirates?
Catbox
forgiveness
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Might make the pirates turn away from American flag bearing ships from now on...lol...
and hopefully they stop going after ships from any country now... ?
I hope that the other hostages on land can be released from othe countries soon... We cant forgot them...

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-04-12 14:40:23)

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Mekstizzle
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lowing wrote:

Does the fact that this pirate crew was killed to save the capt. represent the first time anyone has ever done anything except appease the pirates?
No, the French have actually done it a few times including one just recently, where they managed to nab a few pirates but also a French hostage was killed

Also the American crew isn't the first to fight back the pirates off the ship either, a North Korean crew did something similar awhile back
Hurricane2k9
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RAIMIUS wrote:

It's too bad people had to die
you're acting like their lives were worth anything
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lowing
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Mekstizzle wrote:

lowing wrote:

Does the fact that this pirate crew was killed to save the capt. represent the first time anyone has ever done anything except appease the pirates?
No, the French have actually done it a few times including one just recently, where they managed to nab a few pirates but also a French hostage was killed

Also the American crew isn't the first to fight back the pirates off the ship either, a North Korean crew did something similar awhile back
you did not mention if this ws the first time the pirates were killed.

I guess what I am asking is, did anything happen today that is different and will give the pirates pause before attacking another ship?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7034|London, England

lowing wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

lowing wrote:

Does the fact that this pirate crew was killed to save the capt. represent the first time anyone has ever done anything except appease the pirates?
No, the French have actually done it a few times including one just recently, where they managed to nab a few pirates but also a French hostage was killed

Also the American crew isn't the first to fight back the pirates off the ship either, a North Korean crew did something similar awhile back
you did not mention if this ws the first time the pirates were killed.

I guess what I am asking is, did anything happen today that is different and will give the pirates pause before attacking another ship?
By nab I meant killed, it's not the first time pirates have been killed, definitely not.

And if anything it'll just make the pirates more cautious/aware when taking hostages, also more jumpy

What needs to happen is the ports need to be bombed to shit

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