Bevo
Nah
+718|6784|Austin, Texas

Uzique wrote:

How exactly does "ratting" help you gain sector status? You mean, killing local NPC pirates?
Yes, but the system is setup to purposefully draw out the time it takes to increase the said status.

You get security gains for the highest bounty ship kill within the system every 15 minutes. IE killing a 650k bounty battleship is equivalent to a 0.16% security gain (i believe). It equates to about +.02 security status. You can circumvent the system by ratting in a circle of systems (5 or so systems should be enough, gives you ~.1 security status every 15min), gaining security status from each one. However it's much riskier (warping to/from gates), and your profits won't be great either.

I was -10 (-9.999 for you "pure" -10 bozos) about a month ago, and have since been trying to raise it. It's incredibly mind numbing. It's not easy for a pirate to raise it either, because BS rats aren't common in lowsec, and BC rats give you about half the security raise. It's also much more populated. Getting safe 0.0 as a pirate is rough, so ninja-ing is sometimes the only option. Personally I left my corp and joined some of my mates in a shallow 0.0 in order to whore some rats.

I'm at around -7.1 right now. I'm trying to get to -1.4(?) to get into 0.8 again and start missioning. The sad part is, I wouldn't have to do this stupid grind if profits were decent in low sec. 0.0 bullshittery doesn't interest me therefore Im not really tempted. Also, if the 0.0 profits were decently better, I might be able to stand the BS. However, as it stands, you can make 30-40m an hour per char in empire doing level 4s, something that you don't get very often ratting. Sure there's no exploration or wormholes etc, but you can hardly call those activities cost effective. They're certainly more entertaining, though.

Perhaps they're a bit better now that probing has been dumbed down. But that also means there will be more people probing, and regions will be crowded.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6733
Thanks for the explanation. A lot of it was jargon and stuff, but I'm keeping my head above water, bit by bit .

I'm reading EVE Wiki's and chatting often in a channel ran by the 'Eve University' corp. I guess within a few weeks I'll have a better grasp of the overall gameplay mechanics and all of the specialities and whatnot. If I can be bothered to stick at it for that long, that is.
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lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7092|Denver colorado

seymorebutts443 wrote:

i started my lone assault on BMC by spamming their game channel, my next move is not until later on in the evening when i can trap one alone in their home system. there i will raep his face, i will proceed to raep face until i get popped so fairly soon. if anyone wants to spam their forums i will give you my account to their forums so you can have at it.


never mind they took away my privileges.
blood money? If so good.


Bf2s. bloodmoney, a pirate corp, is marked as a no go for all members here. If you want to troll them... go ahead.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6928|NT, like Mick Dundee

AMFG I WANT TO GO ASPLODE A FUCKING INTERNET SPACESHIP!
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GR34
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+215|6808|ALBERTA> CANADA

Flecco wrote:

AMFG I WANT TO GO ASPLODE A FUCKING INTERNET SPACESHIP!
NOT IF I ASPLODE YOU FIRST
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6763|so randum
well flecs, ill be back on eve in less than a month. then we'll go splode stuff.

quick q, is someone shoots first at me (low sec) and i splode him. do i still take the sec. hit?
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Bevo
Nah
+718|6784|Austin, Texas

FatherTed wrote:

well flecs, ill be back on eve in less than a month. then we'll go splode stuff.

quick q, is someone shoots first at me (low sec) and i splode him. do i still take the sec. hit?
not afaik.

Even if you do, it's small.
seymorebutts443
Ready for combat
+211|6858|Belchertown Massachusetts, USA
lava, get me an in on your corp i wanna come pewpew in lowsec.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Might start training up for tackling in frigs and try find an 0.0 corp when I get back.
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Volatile
Member
+252|6967|Sextupling in Empire

Flecco wrote:

Might start training up for tackling in frigs and try find an 0.0 corp when I get back.
Try faction war first if you have trouble getting into 0.0. There are always recruiters in there picking people up.

It's also a good way for you to learn the basics of pvp.....if you can endure the lag of FW.

If you do go this route though, join either gallente or caldari, as they have the largest active militias.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Was considering FW at first but I heard they have pretty massif edramaz in the FW corps.
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Volatile
Member
+252|6967|Sextupling in Empire

Flecco wrote:

Was considering FW at first but I heard they have pretty massif edramaz in the FW corps.
Joining a corp is not a requirement when getting into FW. When you join the militia, a chat channel labeled "militia" pops up, and from there fleets are usually formed and intel is exchanged. On an hourly basis fleets are being assembled, and all you have to do is merely "x" up to get in on some hardcore fleet on fleet action.

If you're worried about the edramaz, 0.0 is full of it. People commit a lot of time to taking and keeping their space, organizing and dealing with logistics for the alliance, and therefore get a little worked up when things don't go their way.

0.0 is where eve becomes serious business.

0.0 is also the best part of eve.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6763|so randum
so is FW actually good?
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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6885|Little Bentcock
ooh FW. Might get in on that.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6763|so randum
cos if it's like pew pew pew pew but i can do it in high sec without having to go miles and miles to low/dead then it sounds good.

plus i figure people running fw won't be as good as some low sec pilots.
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seymorebutts443
Ready for combat
+211|6858|Belchertown Massachusetts, USA

FatherTed wrote:

cos if it's like pew pew pew pew but i can do it in high sec without having to go miles and miles to low/dead then it sounds good.

plus i figure people running fw won't be as good as some low sec pilots.
FW takes into a lot of lowsec places, but with the added protection of a large fleet.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6763|so randum
thats ok. and no sec hit for sploshuns and area effects? happy days.
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Christbane
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FW is a good way to cut your teeth in pvp. it's easy to get in if you have standings and just as easy to quit if it's not your thing.
Volatile
Member
+252|6967|Sextupling in Empire

FatherTed wrote:

cos if it's like pew pew pew pew but i can do it in high sec without having to go miles and miles to low/dead then it sounds good.
Nourvukaiken is the main staging area for caldari fleets, which is like 3 jumps from jita. If you lose a ship, the biggest and best trade hub for getting everything you need is right next door.

FatherTed wrote:

plus i figure people running fw won't be as good as some low sec pilots.
FW has a mixture of people that are new to pvp, as well as experienced pilots that want to take a break from 0.0.

Things that should be considered:

[1.]Enemy militias can attack you anywhere without concord intervention. The navies(npcs) will show up and pound them in .5 systems and higher, but they are slower to respond and do not warp disrupt/scramble.

[2.]Whatever militia you are in, you will gain faction status, and lose faction status with your enemy factions. If you want to roam in the enemy faction territory without being harassed by the navies after leaving FW, then monitor your faction standings and make sure it doesn't go under -4.9. It can be a bitch when after you leave the militia and the navies destroy your ship because you wandered into their territory and was not paying attention.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6733
I think I'm bored of this shit already... I find myself logging on, setting up a bunch of skills and then logging off. All the missions involve 'Warp here, kill this, warp back' and it feels like I'm stuck in an MMO that plays like World of Warcraft @ Level 5... except I'm stuck there forever. Even on bigger ships that I've tried with more weapons, it's just a matter of click the gun and let it do the job. I don't really see where the skill or player-input comes into it; I know that the game is complex and has a 'steep learning curve' but it just seems to me as though the game is complicated for the pure fucking sake of it. To do the simplest thing you have to go the astronomically long way around, and ultimately you achieve literally nothing, not even the small 'achievements' that you make in other MMO's.
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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6885|Little Bentcock

Uzique wrote:

I think I'm bored of this shit already... I find myself logging on, setting up a bunch of skills and then logging off. All the missions involve 'Warp here, kill this, warp back' and it feels like I'm stuck in an MMO that plays like World of Warcraft @ Level 5... except I'm stuck there forever. Even on bigger ships that I've tried with more weapons, it's just a matter of click the gun and let it do the job. I don't really see where the skill or player-input comes into it; I know that the game is complex and has a 'steep learning curve' but it just seems to me as though the game is complicated for the pure fucking sake of it. To do the simplest thing you have to go the astronomically long way around, and ultimately you achieve literally nothing, not even the small 'achievements' that you make in other MMO's.
I went through the same thing man. It is slow when you first start because you need to get skills going. After that go do a little bit of PvP. I don't get much of a chance to do any large scale PvP but I have been given contracts to escort small haulers and such through a few .4 sections and when they have been mining and getting harassed. Its nothing to brag about and I have only ever gotten into a couple fights but its free money where I can't usually enjoy it. Stick with it or even join with some of the other BF2s'ers and see if they can take you along in a fleet to show what you will get into. Just get some skills up.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6763|so randum
yup the start is boring. get skype, get on it with everyone else for the banter and then get a bit of pew pew going on.
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lavadisk
I am a cat ¦ 3
+369|7092|Denver colorado
Yesterday I got the best officer spawn in the game. Vizan.

I was naked because I was getting ready for a shower after spilling miso soup on myself at dinner and instead I started ratting.

Heres the loot and a guess of the value of each.


https://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u140/Lavadisk/20090509044551.jpg?t=1241845055


BERNIE I EARNED MORE ISK THAN YOU WILL EVER SEE IN A FEW MINUTES WHILE NAKED. HAAHHAHAAHAHHAH. (pvp now bern.)
Volatile
Member
+252|6967|Sextupling in Empire

lavadisk wrote:

Yesterday I got the best officer spawn in the game. Vizan.

I was naked because I was getting ready for a shower after spilling miso soup on myself at dinner and instead I started ratting.

Heres the loot and a guess of the value of each.


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u140 … 1241845055


BERNIE I EARNED MORE ISK THAN YOU WILL EVER SEE IN A FEW MINUTES WHILE NAKED. HAAHHAHAAHAHHAH. (pvp now bern.)
H       S        F        B      !
  O       H        I        I       !
    L        I        V       L       !
      Y        T       E       L       !


I'll give you 7b for it, just let me open up this trade window first.......



But seriously, you got this off of one spawn? What region?
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6885|Little Bentcock
It was awkward talking to you naked I gotta tell ya..

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