Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6189|Belgium
long read, if you don't want to read, just tell me I shouldn't care about these people ^^

Hey guys, this has been bothering me for a while now and I just need to get it off my chest. Hopefully this helps temper my bad mood a bit.

Maybe you've experienced the same...

Whenever there's a task or exercise we have to do for school in group, they never really do anything until I push every single person to do something small (which they then consider a huge assignment, and they will take forever to finish it). In the end the work comes down on me anyway if I want to get something semi-decent out of it.. And my work is rarely appreciated.


It's even worse when we have an assignment in the computer class, they will all play games and not care about the assignment. If I ask when they're going to do something they reply 'we'll get to it'. *sigh*

We have 6 periods to work on a project, 5/6th of those are spent gaming, surfing the web or something else that doesn't have to do anything with the task. I know I probably shouldn't care so much, but it's annoying. And I can't stand it. Maybe it's my personality or whatever. But I when I have to do something I want to get it done, but not rushed.
I don't want to know what the result would be if I weren't encouraging them to at least do something.

Another thing is, when I'm telling them they did nothing, that they actually think they did do a lot/enough. 'I typed half a page, wtf is your problem?' (While I have already done 6 or 7). Half a page is enough for them to call it a day. This annoys the * out of me, because usually, the half page they have written, is utter crap and has to be completely rewritten by me to make something decent out of it, and in the long run I would be better of making it myself. I feel like I'm being used by these parasites. And it's not only assignments.

Another example. We had to read a book in groups of 3-4. Noone in my group read the book except me. I had to make the task, 8 pages long. We got a 9.5/20. They laughed at it and didn't care. I did. I worked hard for that task. When I told them I was angry with such a low mark they laughed again and were like, 'it's not like you had to do anything'. I worked a few nights on that task. They did nothing at all. And they still dare to tell me I didn't do much.
For history we had to make another work, 2 persons/group. I again, did all the work. I added an extra A4 to the work, directed to the teacher about how the other person did nothing. The funny thing is he (the guy in my class) will be angry about it. I hope he will, then I can laugh right at him in the face and tell him he did nothing anyway.


Next week we're making a trip with school, the letter says we have to bring a camera, the teacher also said so.
But still, I'm sure my group will never know untill we get there. What would they do if I didn't bring mine? I'm bringing mine, and I'm pretty sure they won't even be thankful about it. After the trip we'll probably have to make a presentation about it. But who has the pictures? I do. I could send them to my group for them to make a presentation with the pictures, but I know it will be rushed and again, such crappy quality that I'll have to rework it anyway. For me it comes down to this. I always do all the work. They don't work, but when they do it's rushed and just terrible. (Meaning I have to rework anything they did anyway)

What's the solution for me? Do nothing myself and have even worse grades? I hope for them they won't be like this in university, or worse, when they're working. Fastest way to get fired, maybe?

I want to change this, but tbh, everyone in my class is like this. Except a few, but they always work together. I could do nothing, but we would get nothing done then. What's the use of that? Maybe they'll see they got nothing done, but they just won't care...


This is my rant, sorry for the long read. I had to get this out of me, so I kinda raged on my keyboard here. I hope the structure is okay so you can at least understand what I'm trying to say :x

Last edited by Jebus (2009-05-13 09:36:20)

Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6872|Boulder, CO
Take the photos, give them to the group then tell them to sod off and do the rest on their own as you've contributed your part. Make certain they know and understand this, if need be tell the teacher this as well.

You shouldn't really care so much unless its something that goes towards your grade. If it does then you should work with a group that wants to do it properly, if it doesn't then it doesn't even matter so don't bother going off on one about it.
I'm Jamesey
Do a Research Noob
+506|6557|Scotland!
Group assignments are usually always doomed from the outset, tutors know that the projects will fail because they know that only one or two people in the group want to do it

You want to do it, but nobody else will, work on a way to get them all interested in doing it and if you can't, you'll fail or you'll be stuck doing all the work yourself.

Even if you're the only person who made an attempt, you're the only person who learned that people will use other people, your reaction to being used is what will be important in the future, especially in the workplace.

See this thread for how not to act: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=125476
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6189|Belgium
If it weren't for grades I wouldn't care. At all. I guess when it comes to grades I'm a completely different person. Sadly, almost all group assignments we have to do are marked. The thing is, they're my friends and I really like them out of school, but in school they're slugs that don't get anything done.

Last edited by Jebus (2009-05-13 09:45:38)

Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|7000|London
If you get a choice of groups don't be a dumbass and pick your friends if you know they don't work. Group up with the nerds and tell your friends you've already said you'll be in a different group. They'll know what you're doing but if they're friends they won't blame you.

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