BF2S Forums [TF2] The Sniper/Spy Update

The Jarate is toilet humor which makes me wonder why so many people are so overjoyed about it.

They could have picked another fluid but it had to be piss. I have had no problems with any update they roll out, sandwich was no problem, Bonk was pretty fun but Jarate just goes a bit to far.

Something like this should come from 4Chan. Seeing that the Pyro might actually be a girl to as they refered to Pyro as She in an update but updated it away to Pyro we might have a fetish going on in the game.

Now the Sniper really is mentally sick to rather than being professional.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Zefar wrote:

The Jarate is toilet humor which makes me wonder why so many people are so overjoyed about it.

Have you seen the Steam Forums?

Nothing but rage about Jarate since it was unveiled.

And I disagree. Sandvich and Bonk are both boring and crap. Jarate at least does something. Despite how vulgar the actual weapon is. Pretend its lemonade.

I've capped many a point and distracted many a sentry with Bonk!.

Sandvich has saved my life several times, not to mention killing Heavies eating sandviches drops the sandvich, which is a +50HP pack.

But they are situational 'weapons'. Don't expect to use them constantly.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

But I also agree. It's pretty tasteless. But, as i've said many times, a lot of the unlocks spoil the subtle humour that TF2 started out with. But again. I dunno. My opinion is pretty torn, but when it comes down to it I don't care that its a jar of piss. I just think about what it does in regards to the game.

I'm just happy it's sharing a slot with the Razorback (so the rumours go)

I WANT MY BOOMERANG!

Last edited by Fenris_GreyClaw (2009-05-21 07:56:20)

I don't think you're getting a boomerang.

Edit: Yes Zefar I agree about it spoiling TF2's humour. It's a trend that started with the Sandvich and KGB. But nevermind.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-05-21 08:01:37)

Zefar wrote:

Now the Sniper really is mentally sick to rather than being professional.

Good point. Being an assassin may be a job but I'm pretty sure that throwing your own pee around is classified as mental sickness. Sniper's Dad won't be proud.

I don't really like the Jarate idea. Useful in game, sure, but it ruins my favourite TF2 character. I mean sure it's degrading to be covered in pee, but to be the one throwing it is pretty degrading too. I'm sure Valve could have thought up a better idea, I suppose this one just dominated their thoughts since it was their April Fool's joke.

It was funny on April Fools for what it was - a crude toilet humour joke. That's fine, we can all laugh at that and move on. Putting it in the game though is just bad judgement.

Good plan. Lets talk about something else.

Well. All I can say is Valve did say it was the biggest update yet. So anythings possible.

I don´t get why all are so upset with pee. I like pee. I still think it´s funny. Wish I would come up with such a great idea while kicking a chair!

Why does it say "you have to log in to view achievements" in-game now? Are they updating or is something just wrong?

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Have you seen the Steam Forums?

Nothing but rage about Jarate since it was unveiled.

And I disagree. Sandvich and Bonk are both boring and crap. Jarate at least does something. Despite how vulgar the actual weapon is. Pretend its lemonade.

But I also agree. It's pretty tasteless. But, as i've said many times, a lot of the unlocks spoil the subtle humour that TF2 started out with. But again. I dunno. My opinion is pretty torn, but when it comes down to it I don't care that its a jar of piss. I just think about what it does in regards to the game.

First off the Steam forums are the lowest of the low on the internets, and contain a higher percentage of baaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww than any other forums in the universe.

Second all the "Jarate suxxz0rz" threads on the Steam forums are rated 1 or 2 stars, while the ones defending Jarate get 5 stars.

Also Piss is actually the same thing as sweat, however sweat tends to have a larger percentage of water while piss tends to be mostly urea. Both however are completely sterile and don't spread disease. Piss just smells really bad, feels weird, comes from a more private area than sweat and has a funny color. And the game has people exploding in bloody messes, and blood is actually a real bio hazard, unlike piss.

tl;dr Steam forums suck, piss = sweat, piss isn't really disgusting but rather just taboo, and TF2 already has way more disgusting things than Jarate.

Edit: Oh yeah and you seem to be okay with the Boomer throwing up on people in L4D, which is way more disgusting than piss ever will be.

Last edited by DoctaStrangelove (2009-05-21 08:31:30)

I wasn't complaining about it like that. I don't find it disgusting at all. That's not what I was complaining about.

I just think it's not at all in character. He's a professional. Or so he says in his video. And now he's decided to start throwing jars of his urine at people?

'One is a job and the other is mental sickness'

I think Jarate is leaning more towards the latter don't you?

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

I wasn't complaining about it like that. I don't find it disgusting at all. That's not what I was complaining about.

I just think it's not at all in character. He's a professional. Or so he says in his video. And now he's decided to start throwing jars of his urine at people?

'One is a job and the other is mental sickness'

I think Jarate is leaning more towards the latter don't you?

The other sniper unlocks are improvised weapons, and while he prides himself on his professionalism, he lives alone in a camper van with no human contact whatsoever, and he likely has gotten a bit mad over the years. Not only that but he is efficient, and has a plan to kill everyone he meets, the Jarate helps him with that.

Also no one complained about Jarate when it was in Meet the Sniper, heck it was one of the more favorite jokes. I didn't see anyone going on about The piss jar joke was totally out of place in TF2's humour, Valve should not put toilet humor in their videos., and look at the other videos, Meet the Demoman is about a guy getting drunk and having a breakdown, Soldier is about a guy giving a lecture to his collection of severed human, in Meet the Engineer he blows a guy to bits and plays with his severed hand.

Piss Jars fits right in to TF2.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

I wasn't complaining about it like that. I don't find it disgusting at all. That's not what I was complaining about.

I just think it's not at all in character. He's a professional. Or so he says in his video. And now he's decided to start throwing jars of his urine at people?

'One is a job and the other is mental sickness'

I think Jarate is leaning more towards the latter don't you?

True. Hell, in the video and even in one of his achievements there's "Be Polite". Throwing jars of pee is not polite. Throwing jars of pee has nothing to do with the character at all. I mean they appeared once in the video as a necessity, the Sniper had to pee in the jars instead of peeing on the floor or in his pants. That doesn't extend to throwing the damn things at people.

All the unlocks so far have been somewhat fitting for the character and the class - in all the class updates. A bow and arrow, sure. Doesn't quite fit in with the efficiency of being a Sniper but I'll run with it. An electrified african shield, yeah I can run with that one too, it has a reference to the old Aussie ingenuity which is fitting.

Jar of pee? I'm kind of hesitant in running with that one, (it might spill.)

By the way I know it seems I'm really taking this issue to heart but it's 'cause I have to write a boring as fuck essay. It's nearly 4am.

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DoctaStrangelove wrote:

The other sniper unlocks are improvised weapons, and while he prides himself on his professionalism, he lives alone in a camper van with no human contact whatsoever, and he likely has gotten a bit mad over the years. Not only that but he is efficient, and has a plan to kill everyone he meets, the Jarate helps him with that.

Okay, I like where you're going with that. I don't see any reference to him being a bit mad, I think that's just some creative thinking on your part. Out of all of them he seems the most rational aside from maybe the Engineer.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Also no one complained about Jarate when it was in Meet the Sniper, heck it was one of the more favorite jokes.

I agree. That's back when it was just a joke. As mentioned it wasn't in it's weaponised form back then it was just a necessity. When it first WAS in it's weaponised form people took that as a joke too.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Meet the Demoman is about a guy getting drunk and having a breakdown, Soldier is about a guy giving a lecture to his collection of severed human heads, in Meet the Engineer he blows a guy to bits and plays with his severed hand.

That's a fairly loose interpretation, at least of the Demoman and Engineer ones. I didn't see the Engineer playing with anyone's severed hand, I saw him kicking it away from his campfire, (which from memory were burning bodies right which is kind of concerning.) As for the Demoman he was talking about himself and got depressed that he's a pretty rare phenomenon, that was playing into his character being a drunk. Soldier has always been characterised as being the insane one so the talking to heads thing was perfectly fitting.

What also has to be taken into account is the world these character's inhabit, it's a world where everyone kills everyone. Death is not uncommon so talking about psychopathic tendancies is kind of irrellevent. However there's mental sickness where you kill people and then there's mental sickness when you start throwing around human waste. There's a pretty significant difference.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Yes Zefar I agree about [Jarate] spoiling TF2's humour.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Piss Jars fits right in to TF2.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

I agree.

Hate to call you out on this one, but...