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lowing wrote:

Or you realise that you are lucky not to have to deal with the other culture?

Sometimes yes, but you can still respect people of a different culture if thats what they choose, even if you don't like it.

I don't like white rednecks who tool around in V8s being loud and fat, for example.
They are an integral part of Australian culture however.....

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Or you realise that you are lucky not to have to deal with the other culture?

Sometimes yes, but you can still respect people of a different culture if thats what they choose, even if you don't like it.

I don't like white rednecks who tool around in V8s being loud and fat, for example.
They are an integral part of Australian culture however.....

Yer right, but repecting someone else's culture is a differnt matter than being force fed that culture under the guise of "diversity"

Who's force feeding who?

I'm not making you eat rice every day, or whatever, nor is anyone else.

Oppose desegregation you are a racist

Seperate but equal?

Burwhale wrote:

Funny, I wasnt aware that this was a Muslim related thread. Nice try Lowing.

Back to the topic. As Flecco said, racial diversity is a good thing if it is legal. Australia is pretty damn multicultural because of immigration and we get along fine for the most part.

lowing wrote:

no race wants diversity either, which is why cities like NY or divided into racial or national mini nations.

Personally I like diversity and I think its pretty stupid to say that no race wants it. I married an Asian, my sister married a Jew. My cousin is getting married to  a Muslim. Overall I am pretty happy with the whole thing.

I didn't make it a muslim related thread, it is thread about diversity and I used muslims as one example.

good luck and have fun with your personsal family situation, it however does not speak for an entire society.

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

^ are you kidding?

show me where I am wrong

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Diversity is good when both the native population and the immigrants can work together in peace.

True...  which is less often than it should be.

This is because, truth be known, NOBODY wants real diversity. We all want to either keep things the way we like them or change them from what someone else likes to their own liking.

I like diversity. It's great. One of the things that makes Britain so great, especially in London, is the incredible level of cultural diversity. This leads to all sorts of new and different things that grow up in tandem with more traditional stuff. The large West Indian population in London have all sorts of carnivals (like the Notting Hill Carnival, which is good fun), big events, music and not to mention the high availability of West Indian food (mmm Jerk Chicken....) - I like that sort of stuff and appreciate it as a welcome contribution to our culture. The same is true of many of the bigger ethnic groups that have migrated to the UK en masse. Not to say that I don't also enjoy traditional English culture (but then due to colonisation, lots of those cultures that have immigrated here in large numbers are more compatible).

Now, I'd better get back to my Pimms and cricket before all English culture is destroyed by a horde of immigrant barbarians.

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

^ are you kidding?

show me where I am wrong

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

True...  which is less often than it should be.

This is because, truth be known, NOBODY wants real diversity. We all want to either keep things the way we like them or change them from what someone else likes to their own liking.

I like diversity. It's great. One of the things that makes Britain so great, especially in London, is the incredible level of cultural diversity. This leads to all sorts of new and different things that grow up in tandem with more traditional stuff. The large West Indian population in London have all sorts of carnivals (like the Notting Hill Carnival, which is good fun), big events, music and not to mention the high availability of West Indian food (mmm Jerk Chicken....) - I like that sort of stuff and appreciate it as a welcome contribution to our culture. The same is true of many of the bigger ethnic groups that have migrated to the UK en masse. Not to say that I don't also enjoy traditional English culture (but then due to colonisation, lots of those cultures that have immigrated here in large numbers are more compatible).

Now, I'd better get back to my Pimms and cricket before all English culture is destroyed by a horde of immigrant barbarians.

This. Frankly, on the whole I find a shitload more white people in the UK that I wish were deported than people of other ethnic backgrounds.

Bertster7 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

tally ho chap wot wot

Rather, old boy!

God save the Queen, would you agree my good man!

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

^ are you kidding?

show me where I am wrong

lowing wrote:

This is because, truth be known, NOBODY wants real diversity. We all want to either keep things the way we like them or change them from what someone else likes to their own liking.

I like diversity. It's great. One of the things that makes Britain so great, especially in London, is the incredible level of cultural diversity. This leads to all sorts of new and different things that grow up in tandem with more traditional stuff. The large West Indian population in London have all sorts of carnivals (like the Notting Hill Carnival, which is good fun), big events, music and not to mention the high availability of West Indian food (mmm Jerk Chicken....) - I like that sort of stuff and appreciate it as a welcome contribution to our culture. The same is true of many of the bigger ethnic groups that have migrated to the UK en masse. Not to say that I don't also enjoy traditional English culture (but then due to colonisation, lots of those cultures that have immigrated here in large numbers are more compatible).

Now, I'd better get back to my Pimms and cricket before all English culture is destroyed by a horde of immigrant barbarians.

Sorry, for me diversity is not the apprciation of a good mexican restaraunt in my hometown. this is not what I am talking about. I did however list what I was talking about above.

In part it is. There is more to it, but the sort of stuff I've outlined plays a very big part. Maybe you don't understand what cultural diversity is properly?

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

^ are you kidding?

show me where I am wrong

I like diversity. It's great. One of the things that makes Britain so great, especially in London, is the incredible level of cultural diversity. This leads to all sorts of new and different things that grow up in tandem with more traditional stuff. The large West Indian population in London have all sorts of carnivals (like the Notting Hill Carnival, which is good fun), big events, music and not to mention the high availability of West Indian food (mmm Jerk Chicken....) - I like that sort of stuff and appreciate it as a welcome contribution to our culture. The same is true of many of the bigger ethnic groups that have migrated to the UK en masse. Not to say that I don't also enjoy traditional English culture (but then due to colonisation, lots of those cultures that have immigrated here in large numbers are more compatible).

Now, I'd better get back to my Pimms and cricket before all English culture is destroyed by a horde of immigrant barbarians.

Sorry, for me diversity is not the apprciation of a good Mexican restaurant in my hometown. this is not what I am talking about. I did however list what I was talking about above.

In part it is. There is more to it, but the sort of stuff I've outlined plays a very big part. Maybe you don't understand what cultural diversity is properly?

Nope I spelled out my opinion on cultural diversity above. A Mexican family that immigrates to America and opens up a Mexican restaurant, pays taxes, learns English and contributes to society is not diversity, it is assimilation and it is welcome. Being forced to endure special rights and privileges or entitlements is not assimilation it is your version of diversity and you are a racist if you object to it.

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry, for me diversity is not the apprciation of a good Mexican restaurant in my hometown. this is not what I am talking about. I did however list what I was talking about above.

In part it is. There is more to it, but the sort of stuff I've outlined plays a very big part. Maybe you don't understand what cultural diversity is properly?

Nope I spelled out my opinion on cultural diversity above. A Mexican family that immigrates to America and opens up a Mexican restaurant, pays taxes, learns English and contributes to society is not diversity, it is assimilation and it is welcome. Being forced to endure special rights and privileges or entitlements is not assimilation it is your version of diversity and you are a racist if you object to it.

Thanks for proving my point.

AussieReaper wrote:

How can an American not like diversity?

You would have to be entirely ignorant of the American culture and the founding colonies which were French, Dutch, Spanish, English, etc...

Already explained

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

In part it is. There is more to it, but the sort of stuff I've outlined plays a very big part. Maybe you don't understand what cultural diversity is properly?

Nope I spelled out my opinion on cultural diversity above. A Mexican family that immigrates to America and opens up a Mexican restaurant, pays taxes, learns English and contributes to society is not diversity, it is assimilation and it is welcome. Being forced to endure special rights and privileges or entitlements is not assimilation it is your version of diversity and you are a racist if you object to it.

Thanks for proving my point.

You are welcome to disprove my opinion anytime.

Just so I'm understanding it right, if there's an area with Mexicans, Blacks, Irish, regular Americans, Canadians and whatnot, and they all get along it's not a diverse area, it's an assimilated area? Whereas if they all hate each other and don't pay taxes and other 'un-American' things like that, it's diversity?

I always thought it was an old, old wooden ship...