"10 Matrix RAID" ?

2009-05-27 14:22:05

#1

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

I am about he rebuild my system. I currently run 4 SATA drives in a RAID 1+0 configuration. I will be building using this board. I noticed in the description ...

"10 Matrix RAID"

... A quick search told me nothing. Anybody know what this means precisely (as opposed to just saying RAID 10)?

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-05-27 14:22:27)

2009-05-27 14:57:29

#2

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

That's what intel calls their "hardware" (lol) RAID. Just make sure that there are appropriate drivers for whatever platform you're using

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2009-05-27 15:01:19

#3

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

max wrote:
That's what intel calls their "hardware" (lol) RAID. Just make sure that there are appropriate drivers for whatever platform you're using

but its a hardware function, I never installed any software with my current board. I always figured software is just for notification.

2009-05-27 15:08:11

#4

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

Vista ships with the appropriate drivers so everything should work flawlessly out of the box. Not sure about older OSs. Under Linux it doesn't work properly whatever you do.

also you can do fancy shit like this with it

https://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/pix/matrix-RAID_4drives_2005.jpg

Last edited by max (2009-05-27 15:08:53)

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2009-05-27 15:18:12

#5

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

I'm seriously considering just doing raid 5 with 4 drives. I just think its perverse letting the software than runs on your storage participating in its configuration.

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-05-27 15:20:53)

2009-05-27 15:28:10

#6

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

Fake raid FTL

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2009-05-27 15:33:03

#7

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

max wrote:
Fake raid FTL

As long as its all hardware driven "Fake" is fine by me, there is plenty of cpu to go around. As long as it does not perform any worse than a regular drive in all areas and keeps my system up ... i say FTW

Sure on a server getting ass pounded, it would be FTW.

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-05-27 15:38:49)

2009-05-27 15:41:22

#8

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

sadly cross-platform compatibility is next to non-existent. No linux based data recovery. If windows messes up you're fucked

the only difference between software raid and fake raid is that it actually works under windows

Last edited by max (2009-05-27 15:42:08)

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2009-05-27 15:47:46

#9

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

max wrote:
sadly cross-platform compatibility is next to non-existent. No linux based data recovery. If windows messes up you're fucked

the only difference between software raid and fake raid is that it actually works under windows

I'm still reading up on it, it looks like it behaves similar to what i have now.

2009-05-27 15:55:57

#10

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

All I'm trying to say is if you use fake raid is that having backups on another medium is really important. If windows fucks up you can't recover the data from another OS (at least easily)

Last edited by max (2009-05-27 15:56:21)

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2009-05-27 16:42:43

#11

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

max wrote:
All I'm trying to say is if you use fake raid is that having backups on another medium is really important. If windows fucks up you can't recover the data from another OS (at least easily)

I see what you mean, as in you can't use bookable recovery tools.

That's where the gbridge conversation came into play earlier.

2009-05-27 18:43:59

#12

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6644|the land of bourbon

max wrote:
Vista ships with the appropriate drivers so everything should work flawlessly out of the box. Not sure about older OSs. Under Linux it doesn't work properly whatever you do.

also you can do fancy shit like this with it
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/pi … s_2005.jpg

wouldn't keeping the page file on the striped raid5 get better performance?

https://bf3s.com/sigs/36e1d9e36ae924048a933db90fb05bb247fe315e.png

2009-05-27 18:45:12

#13

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6830|NYC / Hamburg

RAID0 performance is higher than RAID5 performance

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2009-05-27 19:18:26

#14

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

max wrote:
RAID0 performance is higher than RAID5 performance

Yes, I completely understand RAID, that was my reaonsing when choosing 1+0 for my current setup . I doubt the performance difference would be noticeable. I was was figuring on recovery being a bit easier (perhaps more tolerant).

On the other side of the coin, using RAID5 with a consumer desktop motherboard might be sloppy.

edit: I'll probably just keep it the same way with this setup, sticking with works.

Last edited by jsnipy (2009-05-27 19:29:25)

2009-05-28 03:50:36

#15

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6844|SE London

jsnipy wrote:
max wrote:
Fake raid FTL
As long as its all hardware driven "Fake" is fine by me, there is plenty of cpu to go around. As long as it does not perform any worse than a regular drive in all areas and keeps my system up ... i say FTW

Sure on a server getting ass pounded, it would be FTW.

It's not hardware driven. It's firmware driven. Not quite the same. Kind of in the middle.

2009-05-28 04:15:32

#16

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6644|the land of bourbon

max wrote:
RAID0 performance is higher than RAID5 performance

oh right. i thought it said raid1 for some reason... reading ftl.

2009-05-28 04:19:47

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jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6785|...

Bertster7 wrote:
jsnipy wrote:
max wrote:
Fake raid FTL
As long as its all hardware driven "Fake" is fine by me, there is plenty of cpu to go around. As long as it does not perform any worse than a regular drive in all areas and keeps my system up ... i say FTW

Sure on a server getting ass pounded, it would be FTW.
It's not hardware driven. It's firmware driven. Not quite the same. Kind of in the middle.

let me restate; as long as its not software driven

inb4firmwareissoftware

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