BF2S Forums Windows 7 won't ship with IE - Europe

"If the Commission were to find that Microsoft had committed an abuse, the Commission has suggested that consumers should be offered a choice of browser, not that Windows should be supplied without a browser at all."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/12 … ows_no_ie/

I think this is the best option if the other option is that every browser is pre-installed, which I have seen in the news as one option. The best option would be if Windows would come with Firefox because I use that. Frankly, I think that it is good that Windows comes with Internet Explorer because I know many people who can't use anything else, and choosing and installing a browser would be even more difficult to them.

Bertster7 wrote:

Should be an installer option tbh, including Firefox, Opera, Chrome, IE etc. letting the user decide.

that would be nice but Microsoft isn't going to support other browsers

I think they should stick with having IE on it at first as a default but then give people the option to install other ones.  I bet this will cause a ton of problems with people having no idea how to access the internet when it comes out.

Bertster7 wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Should be an installer option tbh, including Firefox, Opera, Chrome, IE etc. letting the user decide.

that would be nice but Microsoft isn't going to support other browsers

They wouldn't need to support them. Just bundle them on the installer. Have a disclaimer saying that MS only support IE and for support on the other browsers contact the developers support staff.

This would be the optimal solution in my opinion.

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I doubt they start integrating other browsers in the OS install tho. That would just get another EU lawsuit thrown at them...

Like said, downloads in Windows update maybe.

Why?

It's not anti-competition. It's promoting competition. Bundling numerous freely available products (made by a variety of developers) is not something the EU would have a problem with.

I also doubt they would do it. But it'd be good if they did.

Bertster7 wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I doubt they start integrating other browsers in the OS install tho. That would just get another EU lawsuit thrown at them...

Like said, downloads in Windows update maybe.

Why?

It's not anti-competition. It's promoting competition. Bundling numerous freely available products (made by a variety of developers) is not something the EU would have a problem with.

I also doubt they would do it. But it'd be good if they did.

If you bundle browser X,Y,Z but not browsers A,B,C, you are giving the 3 browsers unfair marketing position compared to rest = violation of many shit EU laws. Not sure if they are going to change it so this is allowed.

edit: If there is even remote chance of lawsuit, they will not bundle anything that could be reason for it.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-06-12 08:27:39)

ceslayer23 wrote:

So let me get this straight.

We will have to download IE through Windows Updates in order to be able to browse the web to get Firefox?
Stupid, though its not really a problem for me seeing as i have everything on a flash drive

No i think there will be FF, Opera, IE etc. on the WU, just not bundled with the installer.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-06-12 09:18:22)

This is ridiculous. This is Microsoft OS, and MS can put in it whatever they want.

Those guys from European Commision are retarded an obviously have nothing better to do. You know, I hate IE myself and i use FF, but this is simply not right. Microsoft isn't stupid, and they will find a way to make all stupid people / computer newbies etc to install and use only IE. What is this going to change? IE is getting pwned anyway and it looses its shares quickly, and soon MS will be simply forced to make it stop sucking. Thx to eurocommision fags once I get W7 I will have more longer and irritating way to get FF, and also IE (I use it sometimes).

I still don't fucking understand this nonsense. Why should they have to bundle other people's products? It is their product, they can bundle what ever the fuck they want in it.

I guess they should also bundle OpenOffice, GIMP, ThunderBird, etc etc.

_Dominiko_PL wrote:

This is ridiculous. This is Microsoft OS, and MS can put in it whatever they want.

Those guys from European Commision are retarded an obviously have nothing better to do. You know, I hate IE myself and i use FF, but this is simply not right. Microsoft isn't stupid, and they will find a way to make all stupid people / computer newbies etc to install and use only IE. What is this going to change? IE is getting pwned anyway and it looses its shares quickly, and soon MS will be simply forced to make it stop sucking. Thx to eurocommision fags once I get W7 I will have more longer and irritating way to get FF, and also IE (I use it sometimes).

You haven't ever considered the fact that these sorts of things bring in billions to the EU (hard to justify, but hey, we're all net beneficiaries)?

I bet this is barely noticeable anyway. Remember XP N and Vista N? No? I thought not...

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-06-13 05:13:46)