BF2S Forums Israeli torture over Palestinian children

I didn't think this thread was worth reading because it's so obviously biased, but it seems to have drawn polar opposites to it, who have made some really disgusting remarks above...

I mean, I get that this source isn't true, but it seems to me like a lot of people have a very, very strong bias towards Israel - more than I thought you guys did.

-kon

Cleaned.

Now get back on topic.

konfusion wrote:

I didn't think this thread was worth reading because it's so obviously biased, but it seems to have drawn polar opposites to it, who have made some really disgusting remarks above...

I mean, I get that this source isn't true, but it seems to me like a lot of people have a very, very strong bias towards Israel - more than I thought you guys did.

-kon

My source is just a compilation of reports about the subject. They were professionaly written including sources. I cant see anything  more trustable than these reports.

http://www.dci-pal.org/english/doc/repo … /apr03.pdf

FACTS
Since the beginning of the second Intifada, Israeli authorities have detained more than 2 500 children. As of December 5, 2004, approximately 373 Palestinian children are still in Israeli prisons and detention facilities. Most of them are held within Israel and far from their places of residence. 3
According to the Israeli organization B´tselem (which use the term Barrier and not the wall), the route of the Barrier was dictated by extraneous considerations, which have little to do with security. Almost no attention was paid to the extensive harm this route will cause Palestinians. The Barrier divides neighborhoods and cuts off access to jobs and schools. The Barrier will be detrimental to 38% of the Palestinian population on the West Bank. 4
During 2004 Israel demolished 181 homes in the Occupied Palestinian Territories as a means of punishment and 1 357 homes claiming military necessity. These demolitions left some 11 500 Palestinian homeless. Altogether Israel has demolished 4 100 homes during the Intifada. As a result at least 28 000 Palestinians have been rendered homeless. 5
There are 55 permanent staffed checkpoints in the West Bank. 17 checkpoints deep into the West Bank restrict movements between Palestinian cities. 27 checkpoints control movements between Israel and the West Bank (including 10 around Jerusalem), 13 of which restrict Palestinian movements within the West Bank and not only into Israel. 11 checkpoints are located inside the city of Hebron. In addition, there are currently 17 checkpoints in the West Bank, which are occasionally staffed and hundreds of un‐staffed physical obstacles.6
3 Stastistic

Sorry sir no one is interested with downtrodden people nowadays. You should better read what I put instead of mentioning about probability of bias.

usmarine wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Sorry sir no one is interested with downtrodden people nowadays.

lol...jews are surrounded by millions of people that hate them for being jews.  where is your sympathyf or that?

The "Jews" aren't hated for being Jewish. They're hated for invading others' territory.
Islamic culture has a history of gretaer tolerance than any Western one. Look at Baghdad as far back as the 800s. But we digress. THe arabs would have no problem with Israel if it satyed put and stopped bulding.

However, Israel wants to expand into the Mesopotamian axis. Thus, arabs are forced to fight them.

The Oslo accords were created to stop that problem. However, no party is accepting them anymore.

Moreover, if Israel wants my sympathy, they should stop ATTACKING. "Attack is the best defense" is an outdated dogma.

TSI wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Sorry sir no one is interested with downtrodden people nowadays.

lol...jews are surrounded by millions of people that hate them for being jews.  where is your sympathyf or that?

The "Jews" aren't hated for being Jewish. They're hated for invading others' territory.
Islamic culture has a history of gretaer tolerance than any Western one. Look at Baghdad as far back as the 800s. But we digress. THe arabs would have no problem with Israel if it satyed put and stopped bulding.

However, Israel wants to expand into the Mesopotamian axis. Thus, arabs are forced to fight them.

The Oslo accords were created to stop that problem. However, no party is accepting them anymore.

Moreover, if Israel wants my sympathy, they should stop ATTACKING. "Attack is the best defense" is an outdated dogma.

A big part of the dislike of Israel in that region is because they are Jewish. They associate Jews with Israel.

Quick guys let's invade the middle east cause the Arabs don't mind stealing their land from them. They only dislike Jews, and of course not because they stole the land.

usmarine wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Quick guys let's invade the middle east cause the Arabs don't mind stealing their land from them. They only dislike Jews, and of course not because they stole the land.

what land of iran did israel steal?  and egypt lost land because they lost the war.  tough shit.

How about Palestine.

bogo24dk wrote:

usmarine wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Quick guys let's invade the middle east cause the Arabs don't mind stealing their land from them. They only dislike Jews, and of course not because they stole the land.

what land of iran did israel steal?  and egypt lost land because they lost the war.  tough shit.

How about Palestine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Palestine

Owned by Britain, given to the Jews to own as per what the UN passed in 1949. Stop bitching. It was British territory, they can do whatever the fuck they wanted.

You and explicitly implied  that the reason behind the hate is not the land stealing but it's because they are jews. If you would have read some of the story from 1850 when the jews from immigrated to Palestine you would know that it's bullshit. Jews where treated very well only when the Palestinians found out the Zionism real intentions of stealing their land. At that time they become aggressive like any other people would do.

Cybargs wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

usmarine wrote:

what land of iran did israel steal?  and egypt lost land because they lost the war.  tough shit.

How about Palestine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Palestine

Owned by Britain, given to the Jews to own as per what the UN passed in 1949. Stop bitching. It was British territory, they can do whatever the fuck they wanted.

When you rent a house, it doesnt become yours.

[sarcasm]Eastern Anatolia is our land, it was ok that we genocided Armenians.[/sarcasm]

usmarine wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Palestine

Owned by Britain, given to the Jews to own as per what the UN passed in 1949. Stop bitching. It was British territory, they can do whatever the fuck they wanted.

When you rent a house, it doesnt become yours.

[sarcasm]Eastern Anatolia is our land, it was ok that we genocided Armenians.[/sarcasm]

you can sublease

That doesnt mean removal of home owner.

Ottomania wrote:

That doesnt mean removal of home owner.

well, go yell at the brits for that...not the jews.  the jews are just the renters from the brits.