BF2S Forums CEA confession, well translated (sort of) by me

ok now that the reasoning has come out - i actually like these guys!i kinda found it funny before i read that. and you know what stats are meaningless!?! why? well lets see -
a) most if not all of the guys in the top 20 are stat padders , who play unfairly and are basically dicks bc they thing that they own the map on which they play, so if you want a plane and your in it they will happily get rid of you for it.
b) the ranking system is rediculous - its not skill! its based purely on hours played, play for long enough and your eventually get a high ranking - its as simple as that.

and finally i really hope that c.e.a guys create 10 accounts and populate the top 10 with their whole clan, and maybe just maybe EA will take notice.

They apologised, so PgUp from me.

Vampire: Bloodlines was an awesome game.

what a noob clan

=YC-UK=Declan wrote:

what a noob clan

they dont do if for their own personal gain idiot.
they just having a protest against EA
let them be , they're not stupid though coz i agree with them on some points

*ToRRo*cT| wrote:

=YC-UK=Declan wrote:

what a noob clan

they dont do if for their own personal gain idiot.
they just having a protest against EA
let them be , they're not stupid though coz i agree with them on some points

if they knew bout the glitch at first y did they perform the glitch???

and y so many points and ohh ya dont call me idiot

Well, they found a new exploit/bug and used it to get their message about how they are not satisfied with EA and their approach towards BF2 across to EA and the community. Fair enough. After all, the global stats are just a bunch of numbers, meaningless in the real world.

At this point, I just wished EA had never bothered to create the global ranking system in the first place, because it has become the no.1 source for all discontent in the community. The game itself is really good, and the bugs that do still exist really don't influence playability that much, at least not for me. After all, there will never be a game that is 100% bug-free. The code will always be flawed here and there, that's just natural given the nature of the beast.

Resetting some folks here and there won't solve the general problem of the flawed coding as far as the rankings are concerned. EA/Dice have some experience with coding, and they should have known that people would find a way to make use of the bugs. The question at hand is wether EA/Dice knew about this particular problem or not. Maybe they should look for new/better/more beta testers..

what I don't understand is CEA's point towards the marketing strategies by EA. EA is a publisher and we all know they only care about money. And rightfully so, I might add. They can release as many expansions or booster packs as they wish, the only important factor is wether the customers are willing to buy those products.

So if you feel EA has been fucking you over by releasing products that are full of bugs, and you feel you are not getting your money's worth, there is a simple solution:

Don't buy any EA product ever again

That is the only way to really get their attention.

The question how much support a particular publisher has to provide for the community after release of a "finished" product is for every publisher to decide. EA has somewhat of a bad rep as far as customer support is concerned, but you have to keep in mind that they have to run a business. If they spend too much resources ( = money ) on support for games that have long been released, they are putting their company at risk.

No matter how good a game is, people are going to stop buying old games eventually.

With all that said, I blame CEA for nothing. They only risk to have their stats reset, and since those accounts were fake anyways, it obviously doesn't matter to them. If that's the best way to get EA's attention and get some of their points across, then so be it.

B.Schuss wrote:

Don't buy any EA product ever again

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Man thats about the smartest post in here. How hard is that. I don't understand people who complain about a game and yet continue to throw money at them. You don't have to go and hack the stats system to prove a point. If you read threw some of these forums and you would think BF2 is the biggest peice of crap out there. As far as FPS I believe it is still number 3. Second only to HL Series . Not 100 percent sure but I know its way up there.

Don't like it don't buy abother EA product.

WinstontheWolf wrote:

B.Schuss wrote:

At this point, I just wished EA had never bothered to create the global ranking system in the first place, because it has become the no.1 source for all discontent in the community. The game itself is really good, and the bugs that do still exist really don't influence playability that much, at least not for me. After all, there will never be a game that is 100% bug-free. The code will always be flawed here and there, that's just natural given the nature of the beast.

Well why do you think it's the no.1 source of discontent in the community? Of course, as you imply, partly because some are annoyed by others being to much into it.. But, mainly because people care about it and thinks its cool to get many points and higher rank - people seem to like the game much more because of the rankingsystem. When people start posting about  the strange scores of the leading top10-players a few hours after its been detected, then it's obvious that many people care about it and thinks it's important that the scores is just/righteous (couldn't find any better word lol)..

well, my hat goes off to EA for creating such a good marketing tool as the global stats. On the oher hand, if you use the global stats as a sales pitch, you have some responsibility to at least try to uphold system integrity. But since EA doesn't seem to be able to to that, the importance of your global score compared to the rest of the players worldwide really is close to zero. Your points mean nothing if you can't be sure everyone else has earned theirs legit.

That's why I have long stopped comparing my global score to that of other players. My score means something to me, as far as personal "lessons" and improvement are concerned, but it has become basically unimportant in a global sense. I mean, it is nice to be able to rank up and earn awards and stuff, but the most important stats have nothing to do with your rank or the awards/badges/ribbons you earn anyway.

To me, the game is about fun, about teamplay, about creating tactics and realizing them on the battlefield.
The stats simply come with that.

I pity those to whome the stats have become more important than the game itself.

i find it annoying that some one can go from not even on teh top ten to #1 with 16,000,000 pts.
and sence every one is bitchin' about EA and such my thoughts are :have EA permanatly ban thies 2 from BF2 and lets get back to our normal BF2 playing.

Varegg wrote:

Respect ?

U gotta be kidding me, that bunch of spanish smacktards should get their hands cut off.

U simply dont behave like they did, if u find a bug u freakin report it - like we ever gonna get anything for free from any god damn company in the world - who the fuck do u think gives stuff out for free ???

If u are such a cheapshit that u cant afford 9 bucks for a booster then dont bother, but keep your mouth shut.

This game rocks bigtime if u have the sence to do things by your own moral standards - only dipshits take pride in exploiting loopholes and bugs to try and "punish" a major company like this.

Do u really think EA gives a shit bout 2 stinkers exploiting their way to the top ? ..... 2 seconds and they are reset. --- okay, so they`ll do it over and over again ..... what a freakin waste of time.

I do give my regards to all those players that have played and do plays this game to have fun witch i believe was EA and Dice`s original plan from the start.

Of course i have been annoyed from time to time but my general opinion is that this is one the the best games ever made and i will not have it ruined by a bunch of computer-terrorists that feel themselves just to bahave in this manor.

So respect : NO !
Can only feel sorry and hope THEY will learn respect as they grow older.

You get stuff for free in other games regularly its part of the company supporting the game.

About being cheap. Id say its about not being retarded is the reason people dont like paying for it. 50c or 10€ I wont be paying for such second rate shit ever again. You get better free retro games on the net than Euro Forces, its embarrassing.

Last edited by Chowley (2006-04-03 08:05:09)

I agree with B. Schuss i think i gonna keep buying Battlefield games cos i love them.. (and they r made by DICE) EA just gets money for sell it.

I used to like the whole rank stuff, but its just ridiculous.. i started a new acount cos the previus had a name i never liked it... but anyway some jerks wont let me go into choper or jets just because of my rank.. (that just so stupid) but after one or two round in first place IAR they stop fuck me arround..

What i want to said is that those stats are becoming more important than actually the game. Many people take it so seriusly and they will go all day swearing about you beeing to good for them or you beeing to bad for them.

Other game comunities like CS:S or F.E.A.R you dont  fell such a hostil atmosfere.. people is no longer nice in BF2 comunity... cos they r to worry about geting e-medals, or e-ranks stupid awards like war college ribon.. anyway i got real worries and real work.. i do play for fun, and its really anoying play with the growing numbers of stat freak jerks in bf2

sorry about grammar english isnt my native lenguaje.

Last edited by IronFerret (2006-04-03 12:19:20)

B.Schuss wrote:

Well, they found a new exploit/bug and used it to get their message about how they are not satisfied with EA and their approach towards BF2 across to EA and the community. Fair enough. After all, the global stats are just a bunch of numbers, meaningless in the real world.

At this point, I just wished EA had never bothered to create the global ranking system in the first place, because it has become the no.1 source for all discontent in the community. The game itself is really good, and the bugs that do still exist really don't influence playability that much, at least not for me. After all, there will never be a game that is 100% bug-free. The code will always be flawed here and there, that's just natural given the nature of the beast.

Resetting some folks here and there won't solve the general problem of the flawed coding as far as the rankings are concerned. EA/Dice have some experience with coding, and they should have known that people would find a way to make use of the bugs. The question at hand is wether EA/Dice knew about this particular problem or not. Maybe they should look for new/better/more beta testers..

what I don't understand is CEA's point towards the marketing strategies by EA. EA is a publisher and we all know they only care about money. And rightfully so, I might add. They can release as many expansions or booster packs as they wish, the only important factor is wether the customers are willing to buy those products.

So if you feel EA has been fucking you over by releasing products that are full of bugs, and you feel you are not getting your money's worth, there is a simple solution:

Don't buy any EA product ever again

That is the only way to really get their attention.

The question how much support a particular publisher has to provide for the community after release of a "finished" product is for every publisher to decide. EA has somewhat of a bad rep as far as customer support is concerned, but you have to keep in mind that they have to run a business. If they spend too much resources ( = money ) on support for games that have long been released, they are putting their company at risk.

No matter how good a game is, people are going to stop buying old games eventually.

With all that said, I blame CEA for nothing. They only risk to have their stats reset, and since those accounts were fake anyways, it obviously doesn't matter to them. If that's the best way to get EA's attention and get some of their points across, then so be it.

Very good post---QFE