Stop the team switching

2006-04-02 16:04:51

#1

LightMagic: Banned; +21|7126|Sheerness, UK

Hi I was on a uk server and during the round I was swopped to the other team halfway during the round, why can't EA or Dice make it so teams can't change until the next round starts as this has happened a few time now.

It shouldn't matter if your lone wolf or a squad member you should be able to stay in that team until the next round, also I've notice that the good teams don't seem to mingle after a few rounds to make it more interesting.
surely its got to get boring keep running over the enemy.

2006-04-02 17:33:55

#2

NPN_Scorpio: Member; +2|7146|King's Island

There was more mingling in the beginning, before people understood how to get the War College Ribbon.

That ribbon alone (the required 3:1 win:loss ratio) is responsible for most of the stacked teams, team switchin at the end of a round, abusive admins kicking good enemy players & commanders and general badwill you see on most pubs these days.

A winning team will NOT mingle, even if they just won the last 6 rounds by 200 tickets.
Whipping a weaker team round after round gets stale fast, but enough people don't mind boring gameplay as long as it brings them closer to that stupid ribbon.

Other awards are also easier to "earn" against weaker players. 18 knife kills against a team of noobs or against a team of equals - take your pick.

All in all: while stats and awards make the game more interesting and addictive, one bad side effect of that addiction is shitty gameplay on most servers.

While I don't play a whole lot on unranked servers, I have noticed a more flexible attitude there. If players/admins find that a map is interesting but unbalanced there is more tweaking of ticket counts and number of players per team than you ever see on a ranked server. Imagine playing Clean Sweep or Dhalian Plant where both teams actually have a 50% chance of winning.

Last edited by NPN_Scorpio (2006-04-20 13:25:46)

2006-04-03 01:56:40

#3

Bernadictus: Moderator; +1,055|7201

NPN_Scorpio wrote:
There was more mingling in the beginning, before people understood how to get the War College Ribbon.

That ribbon alone (the required 3:1 win:loss ratio) is responsible for most of the stacked teams, team switchin at the end of a round, abusive admins kicking good enemy players & commanders and general badwill you see on most pubs these days.

A winning team will NOT mingle, even if they just won the last 6 rounds by 200 tickets.
Whipping a weaker team round after round gets stale fast, but enough people don't mind boring gameplay as long as it brings them closer to that stupid ribbon.

Other awards are also easier to "earn" against weaker players. 18 knife kills against a team of noobs or aginst a team of equals - take your pick.

All in all: while stats and awards make the game more interesting and addictive, one bad side effect of that addiction is shitty gameplay on most servers.

While I don't play a whole lot on unranked servers, I have noticed a more flexible attitude there. If players/admins find that a map is interesting but unbalanced there is more tweaking of ticket counts and number of players per team than you ever see on a ranked server. Imagine playing Clean Sweep or Dhalian Plant where both teams actually have a 50% chance of winning.

I don't think that that is the point LightMagic want's to point out, he means that the auto-balance is fucked up.
I had it recently, It was on operation clean-sweap and i was piloting the Su34 and bombing the islands to keep the USMC at bay. Their AA got me and shot me down, and I was teamswitched. So instead of 150 tickets, I was switched to a team with just 25.

I did end up with a gold medal that softend the terrible pain .

2006-04-03 03:04:35

#4

NPN_Scorpio: Member; +2|7146|King's Island

Ok, so does anybody know how the autobalance algorithm works, or is it completely random?

Some state that lone wolves get switched first, then squad members.
Squad leaders and commanders are not supposed to be switched at all,
but I have been autobalanced out of a win in both roles.

2006-04-03 13:39:13

#5

LightMagic: Banned; +21|7126|Sheerness, UK

Ea and Dice should stop the team switching during rounds completely, maybe in the next patch they might sort it out please!!!!!!, as its so dam annoying and sometimes unfair

2006-04-03 13:45:06

#6

[TUF]Whiskey_Oktober: mmmm...Toasty!; +91|7186|Oregon

if it is off, then enabled, it will swithc people as they die. if it is off, it will sort them as they join. thats the theory anyway...

2006-04-03 14:07:22

#7

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7200|Salt Lake City

I understand why they have an AB, but I see it being abused. Maybe they should consider another approach. Instead of moving players to equilize teams as players leave, or get kicked, it can change the ticket bleed rate to offset that, and switching teams is not allowed after the round has run for 3 minutes. Anyone joing the game after that time is assigned a team by AB, and must stay there until the round ends.

2006-04-04 04:13:14

#8

Kontrolfreq: Member; +50|7068|Cambridge UK

I like that idea, redistrubute the tickets not the players!

2006-04-04 10:28:16

#9

gbr.hitman: Fair Play!; +21|7064|Warwickshire, England

yes something needs to be done!

I was on Karkand (US side) and I was the first one to spawn (i've got a fast PC), and i managed to capture the Square and Suburb flags, then i saw the MECs tank and APC's go across the river so I went and captured their main base. Shortly after I capture it someone killed me and I was switched to the other team! I basically won the round for the US at the start but then died and got moved to the MEC side! That is just not right or fair, and it is very annoying!

It should be based on team points or just capture flag/assists points! So the more team points or capture flag/assists points u have the less likely u will be switched, as you deserve to stay on the same side!

Last edited by gbr.hitman (2006-04-04 10:31:40)

2006-04-04 12:40:57

#10

-=S8M=-Phoenix: Member; +45|7257|South Cybertown, Texas

Just for fun: Start on the dom team, capture most of the flags than switch and take them back again

2006-04-06 21:54:49

#11

123456789: Member; +1|7127

This may a bit off topic but, I hate the tabs on the menu screen. Switching between the kit view and the squad view I will inadvertantly switch teams. Very annoying. And easily fixed, how about a confirmation popup when you switch teams?

2006-04-07 04:29:34

#12

JahManRed: wank; +646|7092|IRELAND

nothing as bad as tracking down a group of friends playing on a server as a squad, loading in and then spending the whole game trying to stay in that squad, being moved every min or 2.

2006-04-08 04:22:23

#13

(HUN)Rudebwoy: Member; +45|7219

Kontrolfreq wrote:
I like that idea, redistrubute the tickets not the players!

Hail to Comrade Lenin!

2006-04-08 05:20:58

#14

cailuc: Friendly fire isn't; +36|7083

123456789 wrote:
This may a bit off topic but, I hate the tabs on the menu screen. Switching between the kit view and the squad view I will inadvertantly switch teams. Very annoying. And easily fixed, how about a confirmation popup when you switch teams?

I did this the other day noticed we hadn't got a commander went to apply, hit the wrong tab and switched teams, next min' kicked by admin for 'team switching'.

2006-04-09 01:08:02

#15

123456789: Member; +1|7127

cailuc wrote:
123456789 wrote:
This may a bit off topic but, I hate the tabs on the menu screen. Switching between the kit view and the squad view I will inadvertantly switch teams. Very annoying. And easily fixed, how about a confirmation popup when you switch teams?
I did this the other day noticed we hadn't got a commander went to apply, hit the wrong tab and switched teams, next min' kicked by admin for 'team switching'.

Is there not a server option to disable team switching?

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