Why MACS are better ...

2009-07-07 12:20:11

#26

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6836|Finland

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I will give him this. Mac chassis are very durable, and stylish. In that department I have yet to find a PC that can top them there.
YOu can buy one of those ugly mac cases without macs and mac logo for like 1/3 the price Apple sells them. But they still suck. Appearantly you haven't checked out enough PC chassis, there are plenty out there that top MAC chassis every possible way you can imagine.

As for Macbook chassis, I would just get one of those slim Lenovos. Doest the same job, looks nice and doesn't suck wallet dry.
Been in the computer industry for 15 years, and building computers during that entire time. I've seen lots of chassis in that time, as well as worked with Macs. Sorry, but the Mac chassis are very well build and durable beyond the available computer chassis. Whether Mac charges more than what the chassis is worth is irrelevant to my point.

How are the mac chassis more durable LOL its not like they make their cases from titanium!

e: and explain. what exatcly is better built in MAC chassis?

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-07-07 12:26:34)

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2009-07-07 12:26:58

#27

aimless: Member; +166|6547|Texas

When you say macs have good cases, you only have one case to choose from, the OEM one.

When you say PC cases are bad, you have thousands to choose from. From Roswell and Coolermaster up to Lian-Li and Silverstone, they all get bundled into the "PC" category.

Also, PC = Personal Computer. It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

Also also, your computer cases shouldn't have to be very durable in the first place. It's not like you pick it up and put it down like a cell phone. It stays put.

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2009-07-07 12:28:23

#28

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|7107|United States of America

I always lol at the supposed "ease of use". When I was with one of my friends at uni, I had to look something up on the internet and was trying to use his Macbook but was confused as all shit about how to use it.

2009-07-07 12:49:56

#29

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6919

aimless wrote:
It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

almost all the hardware is the same; the newest Macs run on intel, the memory is ddr(x), even the graphics sport the same gpu.
we have a laptop here that runs bootcamp - windows and osx, on the same machine. why? because some programs aren't available for mac . . .

2009-07-07 12:51:24

#30

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burni$te wrote:
aimless wrote:
It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.
almost all the hardware is the same; the newest Macs run on intel, the memory is ddr(x), even the graphics sport the same gpu.
we have a laptop here that runs bootcamp - windows and osx, on the same machine. why? because some programs aren't available for mac . . .

some as in 98% of apps

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2009-07-07 12:53:48

#31

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7158|Salt Lake City

aimless wrote:
When you say macs have good cases, you only have one case to choose from, the OEM one.

When you say PC cases are bad, you have thousands to choose from. From Roswell and Coolermaster up to Lian-Li and Silverstone, they all get bundled into the "PC" category.

Also, PC = Personal Computer. It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

Also also, your computer cases shouldn't have to be very durable in the first place. It's not like you pick it up and put it down like a cell phone. It stays put.

I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

As for your comment about leaving out the hardware, unless the discussion revolves around the OS only, then hardware is a factor. This is less of a factor now, since the inside of the Mac is basically an Intel PC, but in the past the Macs used IBM and Motorola processors that were RISC based, and thus quite a difference in hardware architecture.

2009-07-07 12:56:58

#32

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6836|Finland

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
aimless wrote:
When you say macs have good cases, you only have one case to choose from, the OEM one.

When you say PC cases are bad, you have thousands to choose from. From Roswell and Coolermaster up to Lian-Li and Silverstone, they all get bundled into the "PC" category.

Also, PC = Personal Computer. It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

Also also, your computer cases shouldn't have to be very durable in the first place. It's not like you pick it up and put it down like a cell phone. It stays put.
I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

As for your comment about leaving out the hardware, unless the discussion revolves around the OS only, then hardware is a factor. This is less of a factor now, since the inside of the Mac is basically an Intel PC, but in the past the Macs used IBM and Motorola processors that were RISC based, and thus quite a difference in hardware architecture.

I ask again; what is better designed and how the build quality is better than good lian li for example?

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2009-07-07 12:58:25

#33

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7071

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
aimless wrote:
When you say macs have good cases, you only have one case to choose from, the OEM one.

When you say PC cases are bad, you have thousands to choose from. From Roswell and Coolermaster up to Lian-Li and Silverstone, they all get bundled into the "PC" category.

Also, PC = Personal Computer. It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

Also also, your computer cases shouldn't have to be very durable in the first place. It's not like you pick it up and put it down like a cell phone. It stays put.
I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

As for your comment about leaving out the hardware, unless the discussion revolves around the OS only, then hardware is a factor. This is less of a factor now, since the inside of the Mac is basically an Intel PC, but in the past the Macs used IBM and Motorola processors that were RISC based, and thus quite a difference in hardware architecture.
I ask again; what is better designed and how the build quality is better than good lian li for example?

He means from manufacturers like Dell or HP.

2009-07-07 12:58:44

#34

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
aimless wrote:
When you say macs have good cases, you only have one case to choose from, the OEM one.

When you say PC cases are bad, you have thousands to choose from. From Roswell and Coolermaster up to Lian-Li and Silverstone, they all get bundled into the "PC" category.

Also, PC = Personal Computer. It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

Also also, your computer cases shouldn't have to be very durable in the first place. It's not like you pick it up and put it down like a cell phone. It stays put.
I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

That depends- Apple products are well built but you can get even better quality parts for your PC, they are more expensive but still not as expensive as Apple stuff. Taste varies, you like Apple's design which is really neat and all but there are also so many better designs by other manufacturers

2009-07-07 13:01:15

#35

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|6008

Whatever makes you feel better about yourselves. I like Windows because it's familiar and the every PC game and 99% of all programs use Windows Operating systems.

2009-07-07 13:02:33

#36

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6836|Finland

ghettoperson wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

As for your comment about leaving out the hardware, unless the discussion revolves around the OS only, then hardware is a factor. This is less of a factor now, since the inside of the Mac is basically an Intel PC, but in the past the Macs used IBM and Motorola processors that were RISC based, and thus quite a difference in hardware architecture.
I ask again; what is better designed and how the build quality is better than good lian li for example?
He means from manufacturers like Dell or HP.

Well it doesn't need much to get better than shitty HP or Dell OEM cases -.-

But he didn't talk just about OEM manufacturers. He clearly said 'PC cases' which includes anything from 10€ plastic horror to 800€ custom painted Lian Li.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-07-07 13:04:18)

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2009-07-07 13:08:57

#37

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6875|The Twilight Zone

If I got a Mac laptop I would use is solely for music listening, web browsing and occasional movies oh and for PS. I think it would be quite enjoyable working on them.

2009-07-07 13:27:09

#38

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6892

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

I ask again; what is better designed and how the build quality is better than good lian li for example?
He means from manufacturers like Dell or HP.
Well it doesn't need much to get better than shitty HP or Dell OEM cases -.-

But he didn't talk just about OEM manufacturers. He clearly said 'PC cases' which includes anything from 10€ plastic horror to 800€ custom painted Lian Li.

I think he's more specifically talking about design-concepts such as the Unibody Aluminium casing on all new Macbooks. It's just more solid, better designed, more ergonomic and more aesthetically pleasing than any tacky, oversized laptop available anywhere else. Apple aim for a niche-market, lots of douchebags like the guy in the YouTube video hop onto a badly-directed bandwagon, but nothing really detracts away from the fact that Apple serve a specific purpose and serve it well. Personally, I haven't touched my Sony Vaio in months since buying a Macbook / Macbook Air. For all of the common functions and uses of a laptop, the Macs just seem faster, easier to use and far more user-friendly.

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2009-07-07 13:28:53

#39

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|7054

I want a macbook.

2009-07-07 13:29:11

#40

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2009-07-07 13:36:41

#41

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2009-07-07 13:53:47

#42

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7265|Reykjavík, Iceland.

.Sup wrote:
burni$te wrote:
aimless wrote:
It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.
almost all the hardware is the same; the newest Macs run on intel, the memory is ddr(x), even the graphics sport the same gpu.
we have a laptop here that runs bootcamp - windows and osx, on the same machine. why? because some programs aren't available for mac . . .
some as in 98% of apps

I can run the majority of those windows apps through Wine

2009-07-07 13:55:37

#43

aimless: Member; +166|6547|Texas

Isn't wine slow? I've had friends try to run fl studio and half life 2 through it with poor results.

2009-07-07 13:57:53

#44

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My biggest issue with macs are the price. I'm in market for a laptop and I can get a Mac Pro for $1700 min or something similar windows based for about $1200 max.

2009-07-07 13:59:15

#45

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Watched to the hardware point and /meh'd

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2009-07-07 14:00:31

#46

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7158|Salt Lake City

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
aimless wrote:
When you say macs have good cases, you only have one case to choose from, the OEM one.

When you say PC cases are bad, you have thousands to choose from. From Roswell and Coolermaster up to Lian-Li and Silverstone, they all get bundled into the "PC" category.

Also, PC = Personal Computer. It should be a Mac vs. Windows debate, leaving out all hardware.

Also also, your computer cases shouldn't have to be very durable in the first place. It's not like you pick it up and put it down like a cell phone. It stays put.
I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

As for your comment about leaving out the hardware, unless the discussion revolves around the OS only, then hardware is a factor. This is less of a factor now, since the inside of the Mac is basically an Intel PC, but in the past the Macs used IBM and Motorola processors that were RISC based, and thus quite a difference in hardware architecture.
I ask again; what is better designed and how the build quality is better than good lian li for example?

They use good aluminum, and thicker gauged material. Tolerances are tighter as well. We have a few of these Mac Pro system in the office. And trust me when I tell you that weight wasn't a concern. These mothers are heavy!

I have yet to find a case from Antec, Tt, Lian Li, or anyone else that has the build quality, in terms of material quality/thickness, and tolerances. Again, I'm not saying all PC cases are bad. If you compare the higher end PC cases with the Mac Pro case, it would be like comparing a Mercedes S-Class to an SL-Class. Both are fine vehicles, but the SL-Class just has more refinements and some better materials.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html

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2009-07-07 14:01:06

#47

Sydney: 2λчиэλ; +783|7265|Reykjavík, Iceland.

aimless wrote:
Isn't wine slow? I've had friends try to run fl studio and half life 2 through it with poor results.

Running a windows app in wine (with the exception of directx heavy applications) is faster than in windows.

2009-07-07 14:26:39

#48

CrazeD: Member; +368|7095|Maine

Fat_Swinub wrote:
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I fucking lol'd.

2009-07-07 14:38:11

#49

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6836|Finland

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

I didn't say PC cases were bad, I just said the design and build quality was better on the Mac.

As for your comment about leaving out the hardware, unless the discussion revolves around the OS only, then hardware is a factor. This is less of a factor now, since the inside of the Mac is basically an Intel PC, but in the past the Macs used IBM and Motorola processors that were RISC based, and thus quite a difference in hardware architecture.
I ask again; what is better designed and how the build quality is better than good lian li for example?
They use good aluminum, and thicker gauged material. Tolerances are tighter as well. We have a few of these Mac Pro system in the office. And trust me when I tell you that weight wasn't a concern. These mothers are heavy!

I have yet to find a case from Antec, Tt, Lian Li, or anyone else that has the build quality, in terms of material quality/thickness, and tolerances. Again, I'm not saying all PC cases are bad. If you compare the higher end PC cases with the Mac Pro case, it would be like comparing a Mercedes S-Class to an SL-Class. Both are fine vehicles, but the SL-Class just has more refinements and some better materials.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html

Lian Li etc. uses just as good aluminium as any other quality manufacturer and their anodizing is more than on par with the one used on the Mac chassis. And their cases are very thick too, I see no reason have even thicker. And the quality control is outstanding too (where do you think the mac chassis are made too, yeah, surprisingly close to where other cases are made )

And the chassis is pretty cramped from inside, its not designed to fit all the stuff full tower PC chassis are. (SLi, water cooling / big air coolers, lots of drives; etc.) Usability over the looks any day (the Mac case looks like it was designed solely for design-like lovers, and there is no other option for it if you are getting a MAC.)

It does its job nciely for MAC, but its not superior to high-end PC chassis any way.

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2009-07-07 14:44:05

#50

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Gooners wrote:
I want a macbook.

I want a bigmac.

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