haha, in this climate asking for a higher starting pay is suicideJdeFalconr wrote:
True. However, to an employer just knowing that you're the kind of person who's able to get grades that high at a four-year college is nothing but a benefit to you as an employee. I would also say that you could use that to ask for higher starting pay, saying that you're a high-value individual.stryyker wrote:
Unless you can't use your knowledge for jack shit, or are completely technically ineptJdeFalconr wrote:
Well when you can put on your resume that you graduated with honors, especially from a well-recognized school, that's a big deal.
Which seems to be the curve of the youth today.
Poll
Do college grades even matter?
| Yes | 69% | 69% - 58 | ||||
| No | 30% | 30% - 25 | ||||
| Total: 83 | ||||||
tahadar wrote:
well luckily all the good jobs have some sort of required minimum grade, and luckily the british university system has a grading scale which is given along with your degree (i.e. a first-class degree in aerospace engineering or a upper-second class degree in business, etc). in short, if you give a shit about your career and have some sort of aspirations in life then college grades are everything. if you want to work full-time at mcdonalds then maybe not so important.
they offer a phd in burgerology
Sure, for your first job, when you're competing against other graduates with no experience. After that doesn't make a difference.
Getting Cs at a CC will get you into the top UCs? That doesn't really seem plausible.
Also, I find this discrepancy funny:
Also, I find this discrepancy funny:
Two months ago, stryyker wrote:
The SAT just costs more than high school in general, which is why I never took it.
Trying to appear cool while disregarding consistency in your statements?Now, stryyker wrote:
but I was top 5% on the SAT scores
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Why not have a universal test to judge qualifications in each field/industry?
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Common mistake to believe just that ... most serious businesses read through your papers and look at grades, experience and whatever is relevant to form a picture of you as a person ... bad grades tells them a lot of how much effort you will dedicate to their firm ... a degree is not just a degree, the numbers behind the degree also matters ...ghettoperson wrote:
Sure, for your first job, when you're competing against other graduates with no experience. After that doesn't make a difference.
If you were a slacker in school you most likely will be a slacker at work ...
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High School grades don't mean anything in NZ, University Entrance is so easy a braindead Gibbon can make it in, even student politicians sometimes get through. University marks don't matter too much either. If you do law they do, particularly in first year where you need a particular grade average to make it through and placed like law firms like to look at your grades when they think of hiring you. For most undergraduate degrees, (mine for instance,) it doesn't mater what you get as long as you pass.
It's better to get good marks in general though. I mean does it matter? Probably not but in anything you do you should try your best because you never know when failing or slacking off will bite you in the arse. Personally I have had one such experience of how this and it's not fun, especially when you know you could have done something about it if only you had put the effort in.
It's better to get good marks in general though. I mean does it matter? Probably not but in anything you do you should try your best because you never know when failing or slacking off will bite you in the arse. Personally I have had one such experience of how this and it's not fun, especially when you know you could have done something about it if only you had put the effort in.
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Dunno what your degree is in, but if there is more then one of you applying for the job you can be sure as hell they will look to extra curricular activities & GPA.
Even now when I get emails from school about internships they are looking for students of a certain GPA.
Even now when I get emails from school about internships they are looking for students of a certain GPA.
they matter for getting scholarships, but maintaining a 4.0 (or a 3.0 for that matter) in high level science degrees is nearly impossible, so grades aren't considered heavily, as long as you don't fail
Grades matter to me, highly-competitive graduate schemes place a heavy value on them. Plus, the legal profession as a whole is extremely particular about candidate background and qualifications.
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A good grade on your degree isn't that important, unless you want to join graduate schemes or suchlike which usually require a minimum grade of a 2-1. Those are always a good way of getting a solid job in the market sector you want to work in. So they certainly help.
+ Most people get a degree for exactly the reason you just stated, no? People that bury themselves in £15,000's worth of debt and then have no forward intention of seeking graduate-employment are... questionably stupid. On a practical level, a degree is a qualification that grants you eligibility for a higher-level of employment and office. To not care about your marks is basically to state to your future prospective employers: "I don't really give that much of a shit, I just wanted to spend a few more years doing fuck all / I just wanted the certificate that said I had a degree, whilst having no passion or particular drive to do the work that I professed to be interested in, initially".Bertster7 wrote:
A good grade on your degree isn't that important, unless you want to join graduate schemes or suchlike which usually require a minimum grade of a 2-1. Those are always a good way of getting a solid job in the market sector you want to work in. So they certainly help.
If you're going to do something, do it right... never do anything half-heartedly, etc.
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For Small, Mid-size companies, it does not matter but for the larger, fortune 1000 or 500 companies it is a plus.
Legal Firms also look for bright candidates.
Legal Firms also look for bright candidates.
depends what if you go to an interview and they ask for a copy of your transcript
or you decide to transfer universites... and only credits for A's and B's carry over
or you want to go to grad-school
or you decide to transfer universites... and only credits for A's and B's carry over
or you want to go to grad-school
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What, to get a job through a graduate scheme? No, I wouldn't have thought that's the case at all. They're a good way of getting a good jobs that's the sort of thing you're looking for, but most people find their jobs in other ways.Uzique wrote:
+ Most people get a degree for exactly the reason you just stated, no?Bertster7 wrote:
A good grade on your degree isn't that important, unless you want to join graduate schemes or suchlike which usually require a minimum grade of a 2-1. Those are always a good way of getting a solid job in the market sector you want to work in. So they certainly help.
I've never entered any sort of graduate scheme but have found having a degree to be immensely helpful.
Yes, but that doesn't have to be through graduate schemes. A degree is also just another thing to put on your CV to make you stand out a bit - particularly if it's directly relevant to the job you're applying for (which they often aren't).Uzique wrote:
People that bury themselves in £15,000's worth of debt and then have no forward intention of seeking graduate-employment are... questionably stupid. On a practical level, a degree is a qualification that grants you eligibility for a higher-level of employment and office.
It's all about getting noticed and getting to the interview stage. If a degree on your CV helps you to get there, then it's very worthwhile.
Well maintaining good grades is different then maintaining a 4.0. Your right that 4.0 is a bit lofty for science and engineering degrees, but that doesn't mean GPA is tossed aside, that's just taken into consideration when looking at them.S.Lythberg wrote:
they matter for getting scholarships, but maintaining a 4.0 (or a 3.0 for that matter) in high level science degrees is nearly impossible, so grades aren't considered heavily, as long as you don't fail
In fact I have talked with professors about companies who come to them looking for engineering students. One professor was telling me that they would look for 3.0 students, and not want the 4.0 students. 3.0 showed good grade while still affording the student to participate in real life and extra curricular activities. 4.0 showed the student hadn't ever had his head out of book and had no real life experience.
Depends if you want to go to a grad school or whatnot.
Once you've got a few years business experience on there, no one cares. I asked my dad on the subject, who reviews a fair few CV's. I don't believe he even has his mark on his CV.Varegg wrote:
Common mistake to believe just that ... most serious businesses read through your papers and look at grades, experience and whatever is relevant to form a picture of you as a person ... bad grades tells them a lot of how much effort you will dedicate to their firm ... a degree is not just a degree, the numbers behind the degree also matters ...ghettoperson wrote:
Sure, for your first job, when you're competing against other graduates with no experience. After that doesn't make a difference.
If you were a slacker in school you most likely will be a slacker at work ...
A lot of financial aid depends on GPA. If you get C's, no one is going to give you money. Many academic scholarships require a 3.5. Better grades mean something good to throw on your résumé. You can't be sure whether the hiring agent will look at it or not but if you put it on there, they know, and they're happy.
Once you get out of varsity, some employers care about grades and some don't.
In some industries (eg. law, accounting), they're important.
In some industries (eg. law, accounting), they're important.
It doesn't hurt to get good grades.
I have a year left until I get my degree and I have a GPA of 3.2.
My GPA is nothing special but at least its better than the average 2.0
It probably won't give me an extra crack at the door when I go for a job but it doesn't hurt to have good grades.
I have a year left until I get my degree and I have a GPA of 3.2.
My GPA is nothing special but at least its better than the average 2.0
It probably won't give me an extra crack at the door when I go for a job but it doesn't hurt to have good grades.
Yes, because of the degree I want to get.
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That is true also... But if you have crap grades the first job you will get will be crap, which will only be enough of a reference for another crap job, ect...ghettoperson wrote:
Once you've got a few years business experience on there, no one cares. I asked my dad on the subject, who reviews a fair few CV's. I don't believe he even has his mark on his CV.Varegg wrote:
Common mistake to believe just that ... most serious businesses read through your papers and look at grades, experience and whatever is relevant to form a picture of you as a person ... bad grades tells them a lot of how much effort you will dedicate to their firm ... a degree is not just a degree, the numbers behind the degree also matters ...ghettoperson wrote:
Sure, for your first job, when you're competing against other graduates with no experience. After that doesn't make a difference.
If you were a slacker in school you most likely will be a slacker at work ...
yes they matter, otherwise they wouldnt be fucking grades, also during this recession usually the guy or anyone who looks at ur resume is going to select someone with a higher GPA not all the time but there is a possibility over someone who has a lower GPA.... so do good in school!!! not in HS just university HS is a joke...
I (and most college students I know) can agree there.blademaster wrote:
HS is a joke...