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Why would you even think that?

Swan wrote:

SEREVENT wrote:

Why would you even think that?

Perfectly valid question. If it were "infertility" instead of "homosexuality" would you still think it was so crazy? Both change the outcome of your life and the choices available to you.

There's a difference though, who would want to be infertile?

Ask any homosexual if they want to be straight, and i'll bet they say no.

EDIT: You were right about adults not wanting to, but i doubt parents would want to do it if possible anyway.

Last edited by SEREVENT (2009-07-13 07:06:39)

Swan wrote:

SEREVENT wrote:

Why would you even think that?

I did not pose this in a bigoted manner. I think you saying that is an appeasement statement.

Perfectly valid question. If it were "infertility" instead of "homosexuality" would you still think it was so crazy? Both change the outcome of your life and the choices available to you.

It is a perfectly valid question. It's quite possible that homosexuality is caused by some sort of genetic markers, it's also quite possible that through fetal gene therapy this could be "cured". The understanding of the causes is nowhere near good enough at present to do something like that and the ethical reasons for not doing so would probably play a major factor.

Send them all to Madagascar.


Problem solved.

If in the debate of Nature vs Nurture we find out that it is our nature that completely defines our sexuality many parents would have check if their kids will have the "gay" and would correct it.

The government would not mandate it. That would create a shit storm politically. Homosexuality would only be an issue for the poor in that cause.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Swan wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Wow Swan, from that last post(the pot one) to this one I didn't see you thinking that Homosexuals was actually a god created thing. Well if you believe that god created everything he'd have to create them. Also admitt that it wasn't a life choice..

God was never mentioned. Please reread op.

re read it.. So evolution states that the strong survive, so thinking  under that thought. Homosexuals aren't naturally the strong, so they shouldn't survive.

"Homosexuals aren't naturally the strong" wat?

You are trying to interpolate points from the op that I am simply not trying to make. Sounds like you are trying to bait me.

Last edited by Swan (2009-07-13 08:09:07)

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Swan wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Wow Swan, from that last post(the pot one) to this one I didn't see you thinking that Homosexuals was actually a god created thing. Well if you believe that god created everything he'd have to create them. Also admitt that it wasn't a life choice..

God was never mentioned. Please reread op.

re read it.. So evolution states that the strong survive, so thinking  under that thought. Homosexuals aren't naturally the strong, so they shouldn't survive.

I see you think you survive with muscles and fighting skills in the world of today.
btw, a man can't get pregnant. Just letting you know since reproduction is kind of a big part of evolution.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Bait you with what?

What are your opinions on Homosexuality? Do you think it's a choice or a trait? How would they "Cure" it?

Is it something that you hopes happens so girls will give you the feelings that you get in the showers? On your OP it basically is a non factual "hey what if we can cure this" But what exactly is homosexual? It's DBST, not hey I want to throw up a hypothetical question.

Fair enough. I'm an atheist who is in indifferent of homosexuality. My influences come mainly from my maternal grandparents, who moved to the US from Namur in the Netherlands. Although, I had kind of a redneck for a father.

ghettoperson wrote:

I'd say that in the next 50 years or so we should be capable of tweaking someone's DNA to do whatever we want - so yes, I'd say we would be able to 'cure' it. That said, the ethical implications of changing the colour of someone's eyes let alone their sexuality would suggest to me that it's not something that will ever happen.

Determining gender is possble now.

Last edited by Swan (2009-07-13 08:43:03)

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Wow Swan, from that last post(the pot one) to this one I didn't see you thinking that Homosexuals was actually a god created thing. Well if you believe that god created everything he'd have to create them. Also admitt that it wasn't a life choice..

Wow, never looked at it that way, I would really like some religious nut job to explain away how, if God is the master of the universe, all knowing all creating, all controlling, how homosexually is not one of his creations? Great question!!

Swan wrote:

I think no one would argue that homosexuality is not a choice.

First, homosexual behavior is always a choice ... all sexual behavior is a choice.  There is not some driving internal potion that forces a person into homosexuality, as if a person is a zombie to do such behavior like an animal.   What is really at issue here is that a person has a "preference" for homosexual behavior and is repulsed by alternatives such as heterosexual behavior, asexual behavior, and bestiality.

The bulk of our society currently marginalizes and ridicules those who prefer homosexual behavior, as well as several forms of heterosexual behavior (prostitution, pedophilia, etc.).  And, most people that I know do not like to be marginalized and ridiculed ... so if they had an option of some effective and reasonably priced treatment that would alter their preferences, I would imagine that perhaps 60-80% would do it.

OrangeHound wrote:

Swan wrote:

I think no one would argue that homosexuality is not a choice.

First, homosexual behavior is always a choice ... all sexual behavior is a choice.  There is not some driving internal potion that forces a person into homosexuality, as if a person is a zombie to do such behavior like an animal.   What is really at issue here is that a person has a "preference" for homosexual behavior and is repulsed by alternatives such as heterosexual behavior, asexual behavior, and bestiality.

The bulk of our society currently marginalizes and ridicules those who prefer homosexual behavior, as well as several forms of heterosexual behavior (prostitution, pedophilia, etc.).  And, most people that I know do not like to be marginalized and ridiculed ... so if they had an option of some effective and reasonably priced treatment that would alter their preferences, I would imagine that perhaps 60-80% would do it.

very complete pov +1

OrangeHound wrote:

Swan wrote:

I think no one would argue that homosexuality is not a choice.

First, homosexual behavior is always a choice ... all sexual behavior is a choice.  There is not some driving internal potion that forces a person into homosexuality, as if a person is a zombie to do such behavior like an animal.   What is really at issue here is that a person has a "preference" for homosexual behavior and is repulsed by alternatives such as heterosexual behavior, asexual behavior, and bestiality.

The bulk of our society currently marginalizes and ridicules those who prefer homosexual behavior, as well as several forms of heterosexual behavior (prostitution, pedophilia, etc.).  And, most people that I know do not like to be marginalized and ridiculed ... so if they had an option of some effective and reasonably priced treatment that would alter their preferences, I would imagine that perhaps 60-80% would do it.

I see, so if it is a choice, EXACTLY when did you make your conscience choice to be attracted to women? When was your choice over men or women made? When was it, that you weighed your options, took the pros and cons and DECIDED to like women over men? WHEN did you try them both to make an educated decision on which you prefer?

It is not a choice, it is the same thing that makes us all different, why some like blue and some like red, why some love winter sports and some love summer sports, why some love aviation and some love cars. It is part of the make up of individuals that create a personality. no rhyme or reason to any of it.

Last edited by lowing (2009-07-13 09:55:28)