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Didnt they say they would keep doing it until EA fixed the hole in the programming that allowed them to do this exploit?
I think they did it again for that Sinkope guy
hmm
i think use an explosite isnt same like padding or cheating. see many playersuse the command to pusching points or they use a tank to make more kills and points...
they just found point in game and used it. by the way if some peple open an account and play 24h on it all days they woudl be number one ,.. whats that?
if someone have no job and just keep plaing is that fair?
shoudl we play in different classes depending on time to play we have?
by the way the ea stats didnt count correct each round you loose serveral kills and also wins sometimes count as losses so the hole raking system by ea is bullshit.
that an explosit exist is the real problem not the use of it. ea get millions of dollars for this game. they getmoney for the official server too. they sales so much addons and what we get for that?
a leaky game. only the big in game problems (like bad stinger) got fixed by gigant patches... each patch brings new explosits and bug. stability is also a thing we wanna have.....
and by the way doenst matter how the top 10 got the points. is it relly important to reach this position on cost of own life?
ea made a rankingsystem which only good for players play much as possible. this isnt a real ranking. just a way to keep max players on official online to get moeny from the provider as license costs and keep up an community to sale next addon....
now we are soon at a point where the ranking is unreachable for new players (top 100 etc) so they bring a new game same system and we idiots follow them
if they really want get out the explositers they shoudl made an offical site against the padders (its simple see if someone padding cause of favourite victim). next thig is that cheaters are listened by punkbuster but arent resetet by ea ...
so i think what shells let them make million of point in one day,.. lets do it and kill these idot ranking system
i think use an explosite isnt same like padding or cheating. see many playersuse the command to pusching points or they use a tank to make more kills and points...
they just found point in game and used it. by the way if some peple open an account and play 24h on it all days they woudl be number one ,.. whats that?
if someone have no job and just keep plaing is that fair?
shoudl we play in different classes depending on time to play we have?
by the way the ea stats didnt count correct each round you loose serveral kills and also wins sometimes count as losses so the hole raking system by ea is bullshit.
that an explosit exist is the real problem not the use of it. ea get millions of dollars for this game. they getmoney for the official server too. they sales so much addons and what we get for that?
a leaky game. only the big in game problems (like bad stinger) got fixed by gigant patches... each patch brings new explosits and bug. stability is also a thing we wanna have.....
and by the way doenst matter how the top 10 got the points. is it relly important to reach this position on cost of own life?
ea made a rankingsystem which only good for players play much as possible. this isnt a real ranking. just a way to keep max players on official online to get moeny from the provider as license costs and keep up an community to sale next addon....
now we are soon at a point where the ranking is unreachable for new players (top 100 etc) so they bring a new game same system and we idiots follow them
if they really want get out the explositers they shoudl made an offical site against the padders (its simple see if someone padding cause of favourite victim). next thig is that cheaters are listened by punkbuster but arent resetet by ea ...
so i think what shells let them make million of point in one day,.. lets do it and kill these idot ranking system
I feel ashamed, those punks are the only Spanish players you know, apart from me
1st post, but been lurking a while now.
I haven't played EA games much, other then some of their sports lines on consoles, however coming from mmog playing for years, I find it odd that this isin't a bigger deal for EA. A hole like this would have a rush patch deployed on most mmog's (which I understand BF 2 isin't).
Shouldn't this be somewhat of a priority for them?
I haven't played EA games much, other then some of their sports lines on consoles, however coming from mmog playing for years, I find it odd that this isin't a bigger deal for EA. A hole like this would have a rush patch deployed on most mmog's (which I understand BF 2 isin't).
Shouldn't this be somewhat of a priority for them?
What he meant to say was have thier cd keys bannedExecutionerStyle wrote:
I can change my IP in a minute.MelbourneVictory wrote:
Wouldn't the fu*kers have had their IP's banned by now as well? Therefore disabling them from doing the same thing?
And cheating isn't funny, but these guys dont care about stats. If they did, do you think it'd be so obvious?
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hmm banning the cd key its like they have to pay 30-50€ each time they do. but the problem is they didnt cheat they use an programm error made by ea.
do you really think its fair that you have to pay 50€ to ea for their wrong programming?
i have a better idea for each explosit all players shoudl get back 5€, if someone use he shoudl get 50k € from ea for finding the bug :-)
same for al cheats,.. punkbuster and ea should learn solve the problems. padding, cheating and explositing are just the result of an bad programm
by the way i hate cheater, i never do that, our clan server also takes screenshot from all player (interrestiong what we find last time .. cheat wehre you can see all enemys in red and their health status). so i really dont like unfair play....
but it didnt pay anything to my enemys to play with i pay ea to play,.. (with the game and the server we pay) so im not soo angry against the cheater more angry against dumb punishes :-) and EA
do you really think its fair that you have to pay 50€ to ea for their wrong programming?
i have a better idea for each explosit all players shoudl get back 5€, if someone use he shoudl get 50k € from ea for finding the bug :-)
same for al cheats,.. punkbuster and ea should learn solve the problems. padding, cheating and explositing are just the result of an bad programm
by the way i hate cheater, i never do that, our clan server also takes screenshot from all player (interrestiong what we find last time .. cheat wehre you can see all enemys in red and their health status). so i really dont like unfair play....
but it didnt pay anything to my enemys to play with i pay ea to play,.. (with the game and the server we pay) so im not soo angry against the cheater more angry against dumb punishes :-) and EA
I've been thinking about it, and EA's response is interesting. You would think they would be out rushing a patch, telling people to not worry or anything, but they've been hush hush about it. This leads me to believe one of two things. First, (and I doubt this is the reason), they have no clue what do to or how to fix the problem, and are remaining quiet for their own good.GuruSix wrote:
1st post, but been lurking a while now.
I haven't played EA games much, other then some of their sports lines on consoles, however coming from mmog playing for years, I find it odd that this isin't a bigger deal for EA. A hole like this would have a rush patch deployed on most mmog's (which I understand BF 2 isin't).
Shouldn't this be somewhat of a priority for them?
Second, the more reasonable one, is that this exploit that these guys found is of no real threat to their ranking system and it's just simply a minor nuisance that will be fixed in due time. Think about it, a couple of guys hacked themselves to the top of the ranking system. Big deal. EA just resets their stats and back to normal. They do it again you say? Reset again! And once a patch is put out, then the nuisance is over. This in no way affects the playability for the rest of us.
Look at it this way, how does the CEA people holding the top spots affect your gaming. You still have your unlocks, your awards come as you earn them, you still have the same goals as everyone in order to rank up. Their hack isn't like a speed hack or aim bot where who ever has the hack ruins the game for everyone else. It's some hack that can apparently only be done in a controlled enviroment (their server) with a special set of constraints that must be met (possibly the hex FFFF stuff from that other post). It can't spread into the wild because everyone in the server would have to be helping out.
Why HAVEN'T they released their little finding to the world anyway. I mean come on, when have you heard of hackers keeping their hacks to themselves. They always get exicted, post on their little teamgod/mygot forums, and eveyone enjoys the hack for a few days till it gets banned. This is different it seems, not something that you can just release a program for or just put an instruction manual. It seems like it's a bit complicated and thus not everyone could pull it off.
So the top ranking spots are held by a bunch of people who figured out a loop hole (I refrain from calling them names on purpose, because it takes some skill to do something like this, at least in my mind cause I am a programmer). Like I said, big fucking deal. As long as my unlocks, ranks, and awards are left intact, and as long as the game is relativelly fair for all, I am fine... as everyone should be.
GotMex - I think they just wanted to show EA still hasn't fixed basically anything... Probably is complicated, but oh well.. We don't want them to post it online man.
No, we definatelly don't want a "EA Announcement - Global stat reset, sorry" kinda deal.joker8baller wrote:
GotMex - I think they just wanted to show EA still hasn't fixed basically anything... Probably is complicated, but oh well.. We don't want them to post it online man.
But my point is that their finding doesn't seem to be connected to the game itself, but with the ranking system and the ranked servers. Kinda like hitting the backbone, rather than just working on the outside. It's not like they found a way to like revive/kill someone insanely fast. More like they found something that messes with the stats server directly. So if they released the method, I still think it's not something that everyone would be able to do. You probably have to have a controlled server with the right people (like a server of your own). That's why I think EA isn't taking quicker, more drastic action against this.
I reckon EA would only have to patch the central account server to fix the exploit. I doubt the exploit would work if they posted it now.
They're still hacking, look at the unlocks and awards
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http://bf2player.com/index.php?page=sta … p;show=all
Since Dice have closed the hole and wiped the stats but not published the details (that I'm aware of) discussion on the cause is now harmless. Here's my theory of how they did it, see what you think:
If an unsigned number were used to store commander points in the account server but game server passed a signed number the consequences would be very similar to what we saw:
Put quite simply, just by getting a small negative commander score, they would get MASSIVE score if that signed value were stored as an unsigned value with no basic sanity checks made.
To get a negative commander score would involve everyone on the server just going TK crazy, and might not have been considered as worth testing when developing the game.
Basically, if my theory is correct, the central account server at the core of the game was designed by (and this may well be the first time I have ever put this word in a post) a n00b.
Any thoughts or other theories?
If an unsigned number were used to store commander points in the account server but game server passed a signed number the consequences would be very similar to what we saw:
Obviously scale it up to a 16 bit number and the same theory applies.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signed_number_representations wrote:
One may first approach this problem of representing a number's sign by allocating one sign bit to represent the sign: set that bit (often the most significant bit) to 0 for a positive number, and set to 1 for a negative number. The remaining bits in the number indicate the magnitude (or absolute value). Hence in a byte with only 7 bits (apart from the sign bit), the magnitude can range from 0000000 (0) to 1111111 (127). Thus you can represent numbers from −127 to +127. A consequence of this representation is that there are two ways to represent 0, 00000000 (0) and 10000000 (−0). Decimal −43 encoded in an eight-bit byte this way is 10101011.
Put quite simply, just by getting a small negative commander score, they would get MASSIVE score if that signed value were stored as an unsigned value with no basic sanity checks made.
To get a negative commander score would involve everyone on the server just going TK crazy, and might not have been considered as worth testing when developing the game.
Basically, if my theory is correct, the central account server at the core of the game was designed by (and this may well be the first time I have ever put this word in a post) a n00b.
Any thoughts or other theories?
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Who cares? None of you will ever be on the top ten without stat padding. How does it effect you?
They're already at the top again.
wats are you talking about. and neway, i don't want to make a seperate thread, but whats rising star?_j5689_ wrote:
They're already at the top again.
There's more cheats using the commanders glitch coming out of the woodworks, just look at the new number 1 position.
HuuFlungDung has used the same cheat as he's got the same score as [C.E.A]-*Sinkope, EA hasn't fixed this glitch, as this definitely makes the global scores worthless to any of us that plays the game as its meant to be without cheating.
And this will make more of us think what the points of trying to get points or even play the game anymore,I know that points and awards are virtual but when you put in some hours of play and get so few it don't feel good when others cheat, so own goal to EA as glitch not fix and scores for these cheats not reset.
HuuFlungDung has used the same cheat as he's got the same score as [C.E.A]-*Sinkope, EA hasn't fixed this glitch, as this definitely makes the global scores worthless to any of us that plays the game as its meant to be without cheating.
And this will make more of us think what the points of trying to get points or even play the game anymore,I know that points and awards are virtual but when you put in some hours of play and get so few it don't feel good when others cheat, so own goal to EA as glitch not fix and scores for these cheats not reset.
Looks like my theory about an account server flaw was wrong then. Still, at least you know that when I'm writing Battlefield 3142 I'll check the basics first
I'm happy that EA reset their stats!!! n00bs!
but now I see that we have another n00b at Number 1! Another hacker!! OMFG!!!
reset him! ASAP!
but now I see that we have another n00b at Number 1! Another hacker!! OMFG!!!
reset him! ASAP!
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Abdul, seriously, stop posting this....thank you
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