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Their report, after a 12-month study based on 50 years of research, says the benefits of chemical-free vegetables, fruit and meat have been overstated.The findings could be a major blow to the £2billion-a-year organic food industry which has been hit by the recession.Consumer group Which? said shoppers may now think twice about buying more expensive organic food.The findings are based on the first comprehensive review into the nutrient value of organic food compared with food grown through conventional farming methods.

The FSA commissioned the study from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine. More than 100 types of food were studied including rice, chicken, milk and eggs.The review, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, found small but not “important” differences between the nutrient content of organic and conventional types of food.Public health nutritionist Dr Alan Dangour, who led the review, said: “This is the first time all this evidence has been brought together under one single study. Organic food is no worse than conventional but there is certainly no reason for suggesting organic food has a superior nutritional content.“A small number of differences in nutrient content were found to exist between organically and conventionally produced crops and livestock, but these are unlikely to be of any public health relevance.

“There is no good evidence that consumption of organic food is beneficial to health in relation to nutrient content.”Organic campaigners today criticised the report as “out of date” and said it had failed to take into account the harmful impact of pesticides — a major reason for some people going organic. Soil Association policy director Lord Melchett said: “We don't think this report is going to change people's views.“The fact is people buy organic for many reasons including the fact it is more environmentally friendly. And if you actually look at the data, it's a lot more positive than the authors say. There have been a lot of significant studies since this report was completed but they haven't been included.”

Sue Davies, of consumer group Which?, said: “Our research shows that people buy organic for a number of reasons — one of these being the perception that it's nutritionally better than conventional food. This research may make some people think twice before buying organic produce — but this is only part of the picture as other people buy it for reasons such as pesticide or animal welfare concerns.”The FSA said it was “neither for or against' organic food and rejected calls to advise consumers against buying organic.

The watchdog said it had commissioned the study in response to criticism that it had not done enough to investigate claims over the nutritional benefits of organic food.Gill Fine, FSA director of consumer choice and dietary health, said accurate information was “absolutely essential” so people can make informed choices about what they eat.She said: “This study does not mean people should not eat organic food. What it shows is that there is little, if any, nutritional difference between organic and conventionally produced food and that there is no evidence of additional health benefits from eating organic food.”
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Wut u think are u into organic food or no? Have u had organic food before? Are u a long time customer/user of organic food? Are u upset by this new study since organic food is same as the other food.... but yeah respond

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AussieReaper
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"Organic" shouldn't mean naturally grown.

If you want an inorganic food you eat salt.
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SEREMAKER
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turns you into a hippie
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Red Forman
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lol.  it's like a report from our FDA.
blademaster
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SEREMAKER wrote:

turns you into a hippie
yea that organic food is not cheap
Red Forman
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What kind of idiot could write this or even read this with a straight face?  How one could suggest that food pumped with steroids and other crap is the same than one that is not.
SEREMAKER
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blademaster wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

turns you into a hippie
yea that organic food is not cheap
you kow the funny thing about hippies in my area, is that are loaded ---- they all got the newest subarus, they live in condos in the dowtown area but it they havn't set foot in a shower in weeks and got dreads down to their ass
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ghettoperson
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Red Forman wrote:

What kind of idiot could write this or even read this with a straight face?  How one could suggest that food pumped with steroids and other crap is the same than one that is not.
You're just mad that you wasted all that money.
Red Forman
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ghettoperson wrote:

Red Forman wrote:

What kind of idiot could write this or even read this with a straight face?  How one could suggest that food pumped with steroids and other crap is the same than one that is not.
You're just mad that you wasted all that money.
Well that is a good argument.  Well done sir.  I am convinced.

Don't play your lowing games with me k?
ghettoperson
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Seriously though, at least over here, organic food isn't thought of as somehow being richer in nutrients, simply that it's cleaner and damages the environment less.

EDIT: People buy it because the animals have had better lives and the fruit/veg hasn't been sprayed with chemicals. It's certainly better for the planet, even if it isn't healthier for us.

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DesertFox-
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I'm still not quite sure what organic food is. I generally think of it as loaded with drugs in the way that hash brownies are, though. Why else would all the hippies promote it?
Red Forman
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ghettoperson wrote:

Seriously though, at least over here, organic food isn't thought of as somehow being richer in nutrients, simply that it's cleaner and damages the environment less.
And that's a good thing.  Plus free range animals.  But, I do not see how picking oranges before they are ripe and blasting them with chemical crap so they look ripe is the same nutrition value as a good ol regular ripe orange.
ghettoperson
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Red Forman wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Seriously though, at least over here, organic food isn't thought of as somehow being richer in nutrients, simply that it's cleaner and damages the environment less.
And that's a good thing.  Plus free range animals.  But, I do not see how picking oranges before they are ripe and blasting them with chemical crap so they look ripe is the same nutrition value as a good ol regular ripe orange.
I can't see how that could be good for you either, but apparently it has no negative effects or they wouldn't have printed the article.
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ghettoperson wrote:

but apparently it has no negative effects or they wouldn't have printed the article.
Ok.  You know that report was done by the govt right?
ghettoperson
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The BBC article I read about it said it was done by an independent organisation.

EDIT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8174482.stm

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Red Forman
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ghettoperson wrote:

The BBC article I read about it said it was done by an independent organisation.

EDIT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8174482.stm
"The Food Standards Agency"

That's govt yes?
Red Forman
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And I still don't get what you mean by "I wasted my money."  It tastes better, better for the environment, and the animals are treated better.  I don't eat it because it has one more milligram of vitamin C.
ghettoperson
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Red Forman wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

The BBC article I read about it said it was done by an independent organisation.

EDIT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8174482.stm
"The Food Standards Agency"

That's govt yes?
TBH I have no idea. If they did the review then no, it says independent, however the article makes it slightly unclear as to who actually did it.
13rin
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AHAHahaha...

Great.  Won't change the hippies' minds -government lies to kill us off sooner.
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ghettoperson
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FTR, whilst I generally don't bother with organic food, I do believe in eating well and I do like the idea of organic food. It's just for the most part too expensive for what you get.

Red Forman wrote:

And I still don't get what you mean by "I wasted my money."  It tastes better, better for the environment, and the animals are treated better.  I don't eat it because it has one more milligram of vitamin C.
Oh, I just enjoy being a dick to you sometimes.
Vilham
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Ive never heard of anyone buying organic food under the premise of it being "nutritionally better"
Red Forman
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Vilham wrote:

Ive never heard of anyone buying organic food under the premise of it being "nutritionally better"
Nor have I.
Noobeater
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Personally i don't care about the health differences between organic and non organic food as i know that the chemicals that are being used have been tested to ensure that they are healthy to humans in the doses we will eat them.
ghettoperson
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Was just talking to the parental unit about this, and she thinks it'd make the most difference in meat. They pump animals full of antibiotics to keep them alive and strong. We then get a dulled down version of this, which builds up our immunity to them, which is Bad.
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all the crap about organic food being 'more envionmentally friendly' is complete nonsense.

organic food is more expensive for a reason - without the use of modern fertilizer and pesticides, the yield is much lower, as much as 20-40%.

before the invention of chemical pesticides and fertilizers, people had been farming 'organically' for millenia. lots of people starved when the crops had a bad year.

if you wanted to feed the current world population through organic farming, the amount of land needed for farming would double. in addition to vegetation, you would have to sustain free range animals, which require vast areas of land to roam. that means taking a bulldozer to the forests.

alternately, organic farms would need to use genetically modified organisms which resist disease and have higher yields, without needing chemicals. but consumers, especially in europe, are paranoid about GMOs, and will not buy them.

none of this matters to hungry people living in places that are not europe and america. they could give two shits about organic farms or GMOs, they just want food, as much and as cheap as possible.

having said this, some organic foods do taste better [or just different], whether they have higher nutrients or not. i only drink organic milk, purely because it is far superior in taste to anything else i've tried. there will always be a niche market for premium food.

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