| By September | 25% | 25% - 13 | ||||
| By December | 30% | 30% - 16 | ||||
| Middle of 2010 | 7% | 7% - 4 | ||||
| Before 2010 mid-term elections | 1% | 1% - 1 | ||||
| 2011+ | 5% | 5% - 3 | ||||
| Not while he is president | 28% | 28% - 15 | ||||
| Total: 52 | ||||||
Do you think his policies he has implemented in the last 6 months have exacerbated the problem? Could that be it?pilebomb wrote:
Even though I do not approve of the Obama, I believe that the drop in his approval rating is no fault of his own. Economic angst = anger at authority and there are a lot of unemployed people out there.
I wouldn't exactly use them two as a measuring stick.Poseidon wrote:
And yet his approval rating is still higher than Bush's and Clinton's were in their first 6 months...
Why not? They're all presidents, yes?Red Forman wrote:
I wouldn't exactly use them two as a measuring stick.Poseidon wrote:
And yet his approval rating is still higher than Bush's and Clinton's were in their first 6 months...
Not really, I just find it hilarious that the Republicans are jumping over his approval rating going down a few points when their own messiah's approval rating was abysmal in his waning days in office.Red Forman wrote:
O...............k. Touchy subject with you I see. Never mind.
I'm still looking for that (may have to be a member on the Rasmusin site), but here's are Bush's approval numbers from April 16-June 30 2005:Poseidon wrote:
And yet his approval rating is still higher than Bush's and Clinton's were in their first 6 months...
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| Date | Approve | Disapprove | Unsure |
|---|---|---|---|
| 9/6-9/01 | 55 | 41 | 3 |
It also helps that Bush didn't face an economic crisis of this magnitude in his first 6 months. It also helps that massive tragedies like 9/11 rally the people in support of the government.Harmor wrote:
Ah here we go... http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm
In the first 6 months, Bush's approval rating never went below 55% Posideon:
Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey
"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?" If "Depends": "Overall, do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"
Date Approve Disapprove Unsure 9/6-9/01 55 41 3
President Bush's approval rating didn't go below 50% until February 11-16, 2004. Not bad, over 3 years above 50%.
However, obviously it fell in his second term to a low of 22% in October 23-26, 2008.
Well, you used Pew there...this whole thread is based on Rasmussen. Convenient, isn't it?Harmor wrote:
Ah here we go... http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm
In the first 6 months, Bush's approval rating never went below 55% Posideon:
Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey
"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?" If "Depends": "Overall, do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"
Date Approve Disapprove Unsure 9/6-9/01 55 41 3
President Bush's approval rating didn't go below 50% until February 11-16, 2004. Not bad, over 3 years above 50%.
However, obviously it fell in his second term to a low of 22% in October 23-26, 2008.
I couldn't find Rasmussen data for Bush besides the data from 2005. Their site requires you being a paying member to see older data. I chose Pew of the list because I thought it was the least biased (conservative or liberal), on the list.Poseidon wrote:
Well, you used Pew there...this whole thread is based on Rasmussen. Convenient, isn't it?
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So people realized the latter about Obama a lot earlier?Turquoise wrote:
It also helps that Bush didn't face an economic crisis of this magnitude in his first 6 months. It also helps that massive tragedies like 9/11 rally the people in support of the government.
People started dissing Bush when they realized that the invasion of Iraq was bullshit and that Bush's policy acumen was sorely lacking.
People are more inclined to complain about the government when the economy is bad, regardless of whether or not it's actually the government's fault.FEOS wrote:
So people realized the latter about Obama a lot earlier?Turquoise wrote:
It also helps that Bush didn't face an economic crisis of this magnitude in his first 6 months. It also helps that massive tragedies like 9/11 rally the people in support of the government.
People started dissing Bush when they realized that the invasion of Iraq was bullshit and that Bush's policy acumen was sorely lacking.
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I wasn't talking about support (or lack thereof) due to war or economy.Turquoise wrote:
People are more inclined to complain about the government when the economy is bad, regardless of whether or not it's actually the government's fault.FEOS wrote:
So people realized the latter about Obama a lot earlier?Turquoise wrote:
It also helps that Bush didn't face an economic crisis of this magnitude in his first 6 months. It also helps that massive tragedies like 9/11 rally the people in support of the government.
People started dissing Bush when they realized that the invasion of Iraq was bullshit and that Bush's policy acumen was sorely lacking.
The opposite is true of war. People are more inclined to support the president right after a major attack, out of fear and patriotism.
I'd say he's had enough policy initiatives thus far to see whether his "acumen" is there or not.Turquoise wrote:
In short, the people are fickle, but with time, they realize whether or not someone is competent. With Obama, it's a bit early to call whether or not Obama is competent. He hasn't even been in office for a year yet.
No doubt.Turquoise wrote:
What we're seeing mostly now is the right wing freaking out because they don't have either House or the presidency. The left wing did similar things after the 2000 election.
lol[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Can we change it to 40 percent... It got to 50 percent too quick...lol
He has been in office longer than he has been a Senator, by counting his work days until he started running for the presidency.Turquoise wrote:
People are more inclined to complain about the government when the economy is bad, regardless of whether or not it's actually the government's fault.FEOS wrote:
So people realized the latter about Obama a lot earlier?Turquoise wrote:
It also helps that Bush didn't face an economic crisis of this magnitude in his first 6 months. It also helps that massive tragedies like 9/11 rally the people in support of the government.
People started dissing Bush when they realized that the invasion of Iraq was bullshit and that Bush's policy acumen was sorely lacking.
The opposite is true of war. People are more inclined to support the president right after a major attack, out of fear and patriotism.
In short, the people are fickle, but with time, they realize whether or not someone is competent. With Obama, it's a bit early to call whether or not Obama is competent. He hasn't even been in office for a year yet.
What we're seeing mostly now is the right wing freaking out because they don't have either House or the presidency. The left wing did similar things after the 2000 election.
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Source?lowing wrote:
He has been in office longer than he has been a Senator, by counting his work days until he started running for the presidency.Turquoise wrote:
People are more inclined to complain about the government when the economy is bad, regardless of whether or not it's actually the government's fault.FEOS wrote:
So people realized the latter about Obama a lot earlier?
The opposite is true of war. People are more inclined to support the president right after a major attack, out of fear and patriotism.
In short, the people are fickle, but with time, they realize whether or not someone is competent. With Obama, it's a bit early to call whether or not Obama is competent. He hasn't even been in office for a year yet.
What we're seeing mostly now is the right wing freaking out because they don't have either House or the presidency. The left wing did similar things after the 2000 election.