BF2S Forums Chevy Volt - 230 mpg

Red Forman wrote:

nickb64 wrote:

I think it looks like a POS...

who gives a shit.  its 230mpg ffs.  good lord you people.

It doesn't look nearly as bad as the others.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 7#p2157327

40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/

The Volt can drive for 40 miles on a single full electric charge of it’s battery pack. The battery pack will be allowed to drain down from 80% to 30% before the gas-generator kicks in. Since the battery pack holds 16 KWH of energy, that means 8 KWH will get you 40 miles.

The cost of a KWH from the electric grid varies considerably depending on location and time of use. Usually, off-peak hours, from 9PM to 10AM will have the lowest rates from one’s electric utility provider. This will require a special meter that not all homes have.


The map above shows the average retail price of electricity in the U.S. by state in 2003. It ranges from around 6 cents/KWH to 17 cents/KWH. The U.S. average for 2007 is 10.65 cents. To see the numbers for the current year click here. If we use the average, the cost to recharge the Volt will be $0.85, and the range for 2007 will be from 48 cents to $1.34 depending where you live. Clearly for 40 miles of driving at present gas and electric prices, there will be a very significant cost savings. Of course, there is some uncertainty of where these numbers will be when the Volt arrives in 2010.

After the first 40 miles, the combustion engine generator will kick in. This will keep the battery at a 30% state of charge. This 3-cylinder 1L engine will get 50 mpg fuel efficiency. To calculate the fuel efficiency for drives longer than 40 miles use the following formula: Total MPG = 55*M/(M-40)
http://gm-volt.com/chevy-volt-reasons-f … operation/


As far as comfort.. I haven't sat in it but it looks comfortable to me. It's also a prototype so I'd pay more attention to the technology rather than the ergonomics. Those are easy fixes.

Red Forman wrote:

So ya like or don't like?

When compared to the alternatives I like. I don't think I would be an early adopter though. A car is a bit of a risk.

FatherTed wrote:

o noes it only lasts 40 miles

could be different in yankee-doodle land, but over here 40miles is well above average for a journey. And if you need to commute further, just use public transport or something

Yea.. 40 miles with zero gas. The range is much further than that. The US is still relatively "spread out" compared to the UK. However our commutes still average under 40.

Yep, over an average distance of 16 miles.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Traffi … amp;page=1

GM said about 8 of 10 Americans drive fewer than 40 miles a day, according to Department of Transportation data.

The volt's range is 360 miles. The generator kicks in after 40 miles.

Tryin to sell my Dad on a 5d for the biz.. you know Real Estate..lolz

VicktorVauhn wrote:

There are also A LOT of people who work in places like LA, but don't want to raise a family there, so they have > 40 mile commutes each way every day. I would suspect other major urban centers have the same thing.

well said. the western U.S. is spread out, even back east there are big rides. Utah just now is incorporating mass transit, rail, into urban planning. i feel this isn't just an American thing, but worldwide. just wish the world would've adopted the tech sooner, wean us of the teat that's dragging us down.

looks a hell of a lot better then a prius ..................... but I need my truck

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

looks a hell of a lot better then a prius ..................... but I need my truck

http://www.real-tuning.com/cars-news/wp … ptor-5.jpg

Are you getting the ford raptor? that looks nice, i'm planning on getting a 2009 crew cab 4x4 silverado 1500

Is there anything you don't get?  Good lord.

SEREMAKER wrote:

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

looks a hell of a lot better then a prius ..................... but I need my truck

http://www.real-tuning.com/cars-news/wp … ptor-5.jpg

Are you getting the ford raptor? that looks nice, i'm planning on getting a 2009 crew cab 4x4 silverado 1500

looks nice ............. buts thats where it ends for me

I'm a ford man but they're trying to sell this raptor to the " off-road " guy ....... ...... you can put the same aftermarket gear on for half the price ( minus the name and the paint job )

A extended cab doesn't work for me anymore ... I need a crew cab

Yeah I plan on adding a new suspension and all that to my truck, so much cheaper. Who needs the factory branded off road equipment, when you can get so much more for so much less?

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

Are you getting the ford raptor? that looks nice, i'm planning on getting a 2009 crew cab 4x4 silverado 1500

looks nice ............. buts thats where it ends for me

I'm a ford man but they're trying to sell this raptor to the " off-road " guy ....... ...... you can put the same aftermarket gear on for half the price ( minus the name and the paint job )

A extended cab doesn't work for me anymore ... I need a crew cab

Yeah I plan on adding a new suspension and all that to my truck, so much cheaper. Who needs the factory branded off road equipment, when you can get so much more for so much less?

brand new raptor = $ 40,000 +

base f-150 5.4 =  $ 20,000

putting in $5000 worth of aftermarkets and enjoyment of doing the job yourself = priceless

Absolutely^ People are tired of being addicted to the saudi sauce.



Here's to hoping it delivers as promised.

Now I don't want to rain on your parade but until a car can be designed that meets the requirements of almost all situations such as the internal combustion engine has done so over the past 100 years then it will not be a success. The fact you have 2 engines adds weight, it also takes away luggage or cabin space and complicates things. You are also not free from oil usage as you need to drive using the engine to charge the batteries (or spend hours charging them at the mains) and for any trip over 40 miles. The design principle is almost useless for taxis, trucks, delivery vans, postal services, emergency vehicles, construction vehicles and anyone who computes further then 50-60 miles (and I know many). It may be a step in the right direction but its market potential is limited to a minority.

The whole automotive industry needs a real shakeup ending all reliance on fossil fuels, and battery powered electric vehicles are just not practical enough to be a reasonable solution. A new fuel source needs to be used and I've been a fan of hydrogen for more then a decade and nothing anyone has said has altered the potential it offers. It meets all the criteria that internal combustion engines have with out many of its drawbacks, and apart from the obvious infrastructure delinquency, I see no reason why R&D should not be focused in that direction.

SEREMAKER wrote:

looks a hell of a lot better then a prius ..................... but I need my truck

http://www.real-tuning.com/cars-news/wp … ptor-5.jpg

As much as the prius sucks... its still better then those.