mcminty
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Wewt, Lightroom talky!!

Lightroom is in effect a digital darkroom + a photo management/organisation system. I'll go through some of the things I do, to explain how Lightroom works.

Importing and file management
Initially, I use LR to import the photos off my camera. Lightroom will send the photos to any folder I specify, and even create backups/duplicates for me. For instance, I tell lightroom to also make a copy of the RAW files on my external hard drive. In order to manage your photos, Lightroom creates a small jpeg thumbnail of the RAW file, and places those thumbnails in a catalogue - what you see in the photo library. You can create as many catalogs as you like, and then different collections within them.

Lightroom also allows you to index your photos, through applying tags, star ratings, coloured flags and "picks"/"rejected photos". Even if I didn't use LR to adjust the photos (say I was shooting a sporting event in jpeg, and needed to quickly select and send off photos), I would still have it as a photo management tool.


RAW file adjustment and exporting
For those a little foggy on RAW files; when you take a photo, the camera gets the captured data and applys a preset to it, spitting out a jpeg image. By shooting RAW, you decide to bypass that stage and save exactly what the camera sees. Now in Lightroom, you are essentially making your interpretation of what the camera saw, and how you wanted it to come out. Everything in LR is non-destructive, as what you see is essentially a preview of the exported jpeg image.

I'm not going to go through them all, but you adjust a hell of a lot of the photo parameters. One of the most useful things about it is that you can also adjust the white balance... which is impossible with a jpeg image. I can't saw how many photos I've rescued just by using this feature..

As Kerry mentioned, you are able to export an adjusted image directly to photoshop (as a .tiff copy), edit it in photoshop and have that edited version appear back in lightroom without having to import it again. Tbh, I don't use this feature at all..

Once you have done all of the adjustments, you are able to export the finished images. I usually do them as a jpg, but you are able to export them as PSD's, TIFF files, etc etc. Another great feature is the ability to resize the images, apply group file names, etc.


tazz. wrote:

Is there a way to export the before and after shot?
In LR1.4 at least, on the left hand pane of the develop area, you can create "snapshots".. which i guess is a record of the adjustments at any one point in time. There is an "import" snapshot by default, so I guess you could create some plugin/action that exports the photos at that snapshot.. ie. with the import/before settings.

That, or just export the pics before you adjust them
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tazz. wrote:

On an outing, i take an average of 300-700 photos.. so this is gold for me, as you could imagine


Is there a way to export the before and after shot?
seeing as you know PS and are taking that many pics, i'd say LR is win for you. if/when you do, i'll share some presets that i've been working with.
presets have saved countless numbers of my pics, and are one feature of LR i couldn't live without now.
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mcminty wrote:

As Kerry mentioned, you are able to export an adjusted image directly to photoshop (as a .tiff copy), edit it in photoshop and have that edited version appear back in lightroom without having to import it again. Tbh, I don't use this feature at all..
I use it all the time. As awesome as LR is there is limitations. Importing it back into LR is as simple as just hitting Save in PS. It automatically knows to save the copy in your LR library. Just be careful. Running both LR and PS at the same time will take up a lot of memory. Make sure your machine is up for the task.
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Kmarion wrote:

mcminty wrote:

As Kerry mentioned, you are able to export an adjusted image directly to photoshop (as a .tiff copy), edit it in photoshop and have that edited version appear back in lightroom without having to import it again. Tbh, I don't use this feature at all..
I use it all the time. As awesome as LR is there is limitations. Importing it back into LR is as simple as just hitting Save in PS. It automatically knows to save the copy in your LR library. Just be careful. Running both LR and PS at the same time will take up a lot of memory. Make sure your machine is up for the task.
Interesting... very interesting.


Haha, yeah... My macbook pro's fans have been playing up a little recently, so I try not to really load up the processor. PS + LR gets some crazy temp and fan action going..
tazz.
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mcminty wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Is there a way to export the before and after shot?
In LR1.4 at least, on the left hand pane of the develop area, you can create "snapshots".. which i guess is a record of the adjustments at any one point in time. There is an "import" snapshot by default, so I guess you could create some plugin/action that exports the photos at that snapshot.. ie. with the import/before settings.

That, or just export the pics before you adjust them
Ended up just Print Screenin - Didn't need huge exports, lil will do fine, and my res is big enough


burnzz wrote:

tazz. wrote:

On an outing, i take an average of 300-700 photos.. so this is gold for me, as you could imagine


Is there a way to export the before and after shot?
seeing as you know PS and are taking that many pics, i'd say LR is win for you. if/when you do, i'll share some presets that i've been working with.
presets have saved countless numbers of my pics, and are one feature of LR i couldn't live without now.
It def. is win for me... i'm loving it

Presets?

Kmarion wrote:

mcminty wrote:

As Kerry mentioned, you are able to export an adjusted image directly to photoshop (as a .tiff copy), edit it in photoshop and have that edited version appear back in lightroom without having to import it again. Tbh, I don't use this feature at all..
I use it all the time. As awesome as LR is there is limitations. Importing it back into LR is as simple as just hitting Save in PS. It automatically knows to save the copy in your LR library. Just be careful. Running both LR and PS at the same time will take up a lot of memory. Make sure your machine is up for the task.
Machine is fine for the job
tbh.. my 64bit PS runs without disturbing the CPU.... Idles at something like 4%..

Just opened them both and am writing to you.. idling at 1%

Working in PS on a photo with LR open, working in PS alone, or just working in LR alone, all ended in CPU jumping around 20-55%


mcminty wrote:

Haha, yeah... My macbook pro's fans have been playing up a little recently, so I try not to really load up the processor. PS + LR gets some crazy temp and fan action going..
Get it fixed asap, you DON'T want to be up for new mac parts >_>


Yes... personal experience
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
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tazz. wrote:

Presets?
http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/
http://www.presetsheaven.com/
http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2007/1 … free-list/

i've played with quite a few, and a few presets are must have. try out the 'stock' presets - some are indispensable.
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tazz. wrote:

Get it fixed asap, you DON'T want to be up for new mac parts >_>


Yes... personal experience
Hahah dude, I've got personal experience in that area too. Like, when my screen just died, and had to be replaced. I was out of warranty by ONE month, and was looking at a bill of $1063.. but thankfuckfully the guy took pity on me and did it for free.

I *could* take it to the apple store, but they take fucking forever and I need my laptop for uni..
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tazz. wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

mcminty wrote:

As Kerry mentioned, you are able to export an adjusted image directly to photoshop (as a .tiff copy), edit it in photoshop and have that edited version appear back in lightroom without having to import it again. Tbh, I don't use this feature at all..
I use it all the time. As awesome as LR is there is limitations. Importing it back into LR is as simple as just hitting Save in PS. It automatically knows to save the copy in your LR library. Just be careful. Running both LR and PS at the same time will take up a lot of memory. Make sure your machine is up for the task.
Machine is fine for the job
tbh.. my 64bit PS runs without disturbing the CPU.... Idles at something like 4%..

Just opened them both and am writing to you.. idling at 1%

Working in PS on a photo with LR open, working in PS alone, or just working in LR alone, all ended in CPU jumping around 20-55%
All of mine do too. Lappy included. I said to be careful because they can get beastly, depending on mode and how many layers you are working with. Streaming music, burning a dvd, and have LR and PS will certainly have an impact..lol
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tazz.
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burnzz wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Presets?
http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/
http://www.presetsheaven.com/
http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2007/1 … free-list/

i've played with quite a few, and a few presets are must have. try out the 'stock' presets - some are indispensable.
<3

mcminty wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Get it fixed asap, you DON'T want to be up for new mac parts >_>


Yes... personal experience
Hahah dude, I've got personal experience in that area too. Like, when my screen just died, and had to be replaced. I was out of warranty by ONE month, and was looking at a bill of $1063.. but thankfuckfully the guy took pity on me and did it for free.

I *could* take it to the apple store, but they take fucking forever and I need my laptop for uni..
Lol, at least it was your screen... Money wise.. ouch....

My old macbook, which my dad now uses... was one of the older G4's [edit: ibook] -- Harddrive fried... all my works were on it.. gone. no more.

Half of its keyboard stopped working, after openeing it up (which is very easy with a g4 compared to a new macbook >_>, couldnt find any problems, took it into the apple store, after a MONTH, they said they couldnt work it out and replaced the keyboard.

My new macbook however, has been faultless so far


Kmarion wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I use it all the time. As awesome as LR is there is limitations. Importing it back into LR is as simple as just hitting Save in PS. It automatically knows to save the copy in your LR library. Just be careful. Running both LR and PS at the same time will take up a lot of memory. Make sure your machine is up for the task.
Machine is fine for the job
tbh.. my 64bit PS runs without disturbing the CPU.... Idles at something like 4%..

Just opened them both and am writing to you.. idling at 1%

Working in PS on a photo with LR open, working in PS alone, or just working in LR alone, all ended in CPU jumping around 20-55%
All of mine do too. Lappy included. I said to be careful because they can get beastly, depending on mode and how many layers you are working with. Streaming music, burning a dvd, and have LR and PS will certainly have an impact..lol
Naturally.

Last edited by tazz. (2009-08-20 17:45:16)

everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
mcminty
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tazz. wrote:

burnzz wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Presets?
http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/
http://www.presetsheaven.com/
http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2007/1 … free-list/

i've played with quite a few, and a few presets are must have. try out the 'stock' presets - some are indispensable.
<3

mcminty wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Get it fixed asap, you DON'T want to be up for new mac parts >_>


Yes... personal experience
Hahah dude, I've got personal experience in that area too. Like, when my screen just died, and had to be replaced. I was out of warranty by ONE month, and was looking at a bill of $1063.. but thankfuckfully the guy took pity on me and did it for free.

I *could* take it to the apple store, but they take fucking forever and I need my laptop for uni..
Lol, at least it was your screen... Money wise.. ouch....

My old macbook, which my dad now uses... was one of the older G4's [edit: ibook] -- Harddrive fried... all my works were on it.. gone. no more.

Half of its keyboard stopped working, after openeing it up (which is very easy with a g4 compared to a new macbook >_>, couldnt find any problems, took it into the apple store, after a MONTH, they said they couldnt work it out and replaced the keyboard.

My new macbook however, has been faultless so far
Bugger

Hehe, I've got everything backed up on a 500GB external HDD.. using Time Machine!
tazz.
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Haha, yes THESE days i have a 500GB internal for my files, and a 320GB internal for the OS
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Kmar
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tazz. wrote:

Haha, yes THESE days i have a 500GB internal for my files, and a 320GB internal for the OS
You can also set up lightroom to backup your catalogs at varying intervals. It's a good idea.
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tazz.
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Kmarion wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Haha, yes THESE days i have a 500GB internal for my files, and a 320GB internal for the OS
You can also set up lightroom to backup your catalogs at varying intervals. It's a good idea.
What do you mean by catalogs..

Do you mean what i have edited...?
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Kmar
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tazz. wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Haha, yes THESE days i have a 500GB internal for my files, and a 320GB internal for the OS
You can also set up lightroom to backup your catalogs at varying intervals. It's a good idea.
What do you mean by catalogs..

Do you mean what i have edited...?
A catalog contains all of your collections and sets. Try creating a new one. I have a work catalog and a personal catalog.

You'll have to setup a new identity plate..
https://i27.tinypic.com/34yxxdf.jpg
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tazz.
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Ahk i'll look into it soon
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
mcminty
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Kmarion wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


You can also set up lightroom to backup your catalogs at varying intervals. It's a good idea.
What do you mean by catalogs..

Do you mean what i have edited...?
A catalog contains all of your collections and sets. Try creating a new one. I have a work catalog and a personal catalog.

You'll have to setup a new identity plate..
http://i27.tinypic.com/34yxxdf.jpg
This. I make a new one at least each year.. but I think I've got around 12-15.. cause I'll make a catalogue if im doing a new project with a lot of photos (like the cadet squadron portraits). I found that once you get around 15-17 thousand photos in the default catalogue, things start to go slowly
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O.o
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Kmar
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There is a nice yahoo widget for flickr.. for those that are interested.




It's not excatly my cup of tea. I usually export directly from lightroom to flickr..



or use the quickly accessible Flickr uploader.
https://i29.tinypic.com/33x78t5.jpg

Still, I thought I'd share this other alternative.
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has anyone taken a photography workshop?
im looking into a few in Santa Fe http://www.santafeworkshops.com/
their sumfall 2009 catalog http://www.santafeworkshops.com/userfil … atalog.pdf

Last edited by Kimmmmmmmmmmmm (2009-08-24 11:02:49)

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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

has anyone taken a photography workshop?
i haven't, but i would. that site looks pretty nice.

That Pdf weighs in @ 9mb . . .
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I put 3 new ones in there. I cheated and used a landscape pic from january Haven't done any shooting for a month. Lack of inspiration and travelling are my excuses.
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Landscapes don't expire. i laffed my @$$ of at the bears . . .


last Saturday i went to a car show, drove into the canyons and got caught in the middle of a bike road-race. i had to give my wife my spare battery because we were picture taking fools. This is why i tolerate the winters here, for the awsum-ness of summer. . . .
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finnnallly ..

addin ya nao
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