.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6872|The Twilight Zone
the fuck...
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mcminty
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Ty wrote:

A more interesting question: The world is going to end. There are two ways you can attempt to stop the world's destruction. The first has a 40% chance of being successful and will not result in your death, (unless the world ends obviously.) The second has a 80% chance of being successful but will result in your death. Which one do you pick?
It depends if self-preservation is your primary objective


On a related note with something that is not as lame as the OP, at uni today we had a look at some game theory, more specifically the Prisoner's Dilemma. For those not familiar with it, answer me this:

Two suspects are arrested by the police. The police have insufficient evidence for a conviction, and, having separated both prisoners, visit each of them to offer the same deal.

If one testifies (defects from the other) for the prosecution against the other and the other remains silent (cooperates with the other), the betrayer goes free and the silent accomplice receives the full 10-year sentence. If both remain silent, both prisoners are sentenced to only six months in jail for a minor charge. If each betrays the other, each receives a five-year sentence.

Each prisoner must choose to betray the other or to remain silent. Each one is assured that the other would not know about the betrayal before the end of the investigation.

How should the prisoners act?
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6572|what

They should both remain silent. However, it is a huge risk.

You're looking at 5-10 years if the other guy yaps. And you have to really trust that other person.
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mcminty
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AussieReaper wrote:

They should both remain silent. However, it is a huge risk.

You're looking at 5-10 years if the other guy yaps. And you have to really trust that other person.
Haha, wrong answer

Edit: in the sense that they don't know what the other will do, so they must act in a way that will be most beneficial to themselves.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,055|7042|Little Bentcock

mcminty wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

They should both remain silent. However, it is a huge risk.

You're looking at 5-10 years if the other guy yaps. And you have to really trust that other person.
Haha, wrong answer

Edit: in the sense that they don't know what the other will do, so they must act in a way that will be most beneficial to themselves.
You can't be wrong in an open ended question. Numpty.
mcminty
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Adams_BJ wrote:

mcminty wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

They should both remain silent. However, it is a huge risk.

You're looking at 5-10 years if the other guy yaps. And you have to really trust that other person.
Haha, wrong answer

Edit: in the sense that they don't know what the other will do, so they must act in a way that will be most beneficial to themselves.
You can't be wrong in an open ended question. Numpty.
You can according to game theory
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7194|Noizyland

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Judging by this, testifying is the most intelligent thing to do. Although the ideal outcome would be both prisoners remaining true to each other, (a shared 1 year as oposed to a shared 10,) on a personal level there is less to risk and more to gain by testifying.
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mcminty
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Ty wrote:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/ … ilemma.png
Judging by this, testifying is the most intelligent thing to do. Although the ideal outcome would be both prisoners remaining true to each other, (a shared 1 year as oposed to a shared 10,) on a personal level there is less to risk and more to gain by testifying.
Lol, we have a winner XD

Yeah, if neither testify against the other then they reach an optimal outcome.. but since they can't collude (and that's why we were looking at it - collusion between firms in an oligopoly) then you must assume that they will do what is best for them. They will assume that the other person testifies (in attempt to get the shortest sentence), so then they MUST testify to avoid the 10 year prison term. Eventually, both people decide it is in their best interest to testify. This choice is a Nash Equilibrium - a "best choice" given the other people's options and choices.
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7151|St. Andrews / Oslo

mcminty wrote:

Ty wrote:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/ … ilemma.png
Judging by this, testifying is the most intelligent thing to do. Although the ideal outcome would be both prisoners remaining true to each other, (a shared 1 year as oposed to a shared 10,) on a personal level there is less to risk and more to gain by testifying.
Lol, we have a winner XD

Yeah, if neither testify against the other then they reach an optimal outcome.. but since they can't collude (and that's why we were looking at it - collusion between firms in an oligopoly) then you must assume that they will do what is best for them. They will assume that the other person testifies (in attempt to get the shortest sentence), so then they MUST testify to avoid the 10 year prison term. Eventually, both people decide it is in their best interest to testify. This choice is a Nash Equilibrium - a "best choice" given the other people's options and choices.
Oligopolies are quite interesting, actually. Much more fun that perfect competition and monopolies...
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mcminty
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Jenspm wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Ty wrote:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/ … ilemma.png
Judging by this, testifying is the most intelligent thing to do. Although the ideal outcome would be both prisoners remaining true to each other, (a shared 1 year as oposed to a shared 10,) on a personal level there is less to risk and more to gain by testifying.
Lol, we have a winner XD

Yeah, if neither testify against the other then they reach an optimal outcome.. but since they can't collude (and that's why we were looking at it - collusion between firms in an oligopoly) then you must assume that they will do what is best for them. They will assume that the other person testifies (in attempt to get the shortest sentence), so then they MUST testify to avoid the 10 year prison term. Eventually, both people decide it is in their best interest to testify. This choice is a Nash Equilibrium - a "best choice" given the other people's options and choices.
Oligopolies are quite interesting, actually. Much more fun that perfect competition and monopolies...
Lol, perfect competition is so.. well pointless isn't the right word, but nothing is ever like the model. You know what I mean, right? It's just not.. real.
Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6691

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

first i'd require a bj from everyone in the world. thats right, everyone. then i'd think about it.
You wouldn't live long enough for the whole world to blow you.
Unless... you last under 30''

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Jenspm
penis
+1,716|7151|St. Andrews / Oslo

mcminty wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

mcminty wrote:


Lol, we have a winner XD

Yeah, if neither testify against the other then they reach an optimal outcome.. but since they can't collude (and that's why we were looking at it - collusion between firms in an oligopoly) then you must assume that they will do what is best for them. They will assume that the other person testifies (in attempt to get the shortest sentence), so then they MUST testify to avoid the 10 year prison term. Eventually, both people decide it is in their best interest to testify. This choice is a Nash Equilibrium - a "best choice" given the other people's options and choices.
Oligopolies are quite interesting, actually. Much more fun that perfect competition and monopolies...
Lol, perfect competition is so.. well pointless isn't the right word, but nothing is ever like the model. You know what I mean, right? It's just not.. real.
yeah, just a theory.

but the theory is lame.
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teek22
Add "teek22" on your PS3 fools!
+133|6800|Bromley, London

Imagine how boring it would be if you were the only one surviving in the world, for that reason I would kill my self out of being so bored.

However killing myself to save the world I don't know if I would... I would like to think so but you never know.
Zimmer
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+1,688|7175|Scotland

teek22 wrote:

Imagine how boring it would be if you were the only one surviving in the world, for that reason I would kill my self out of being so bored.

However killing myself to save the world I don't know if I would... I would like to think so but you never know.
Would you not enjoy raping dead people?
RavyGravy
Son.
+617|6825|NSW, Australia

teek22 wrote:

Imagine how boring it would be if you were the only one surviving in the world, for that reason I would kill my self out of being so bored.

However killing myself to save the world I don't know if I would... I would like to think so but you never know.
id walk around nekkid 24/7, that would be pretty cool
mcminty
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Ty, in response to the additional information:

As to self-preservation, it depends on the individual. I guess the crux of the problem is the willingness to die for higher but not certain chance of success. - Ty.
For me, personal survival would be more important.. cause if I kill myself to give an 80% chance for everyone else... I'm still dead! So I'd take the option where there is a chance for my personal survival. :p
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7100|Disaster Free Zone
I'd be like, fuck off as sif that's going to happen.

Then the world ends and I'm like holy shit... ohh well too late now.

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