Chilling 911 tape

2009-09-15 02:34:47

#26

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,822|6525|eXtreme to the maX

Morpheus wrote:
All the automatic transmission cars I've driven have a little cover next to the shifter that acts as a manual release for the shifter locking mechanism, so you can slide it to N or P.

Not something you're going to be fiddling around with at 120MPH

mcminty wrote:
Yup, in the car I drive (an auto 2000 Holden Vectra) you can just knock the stick forward to put it into neutral.

American cars have all sorts of fruity interlocks to stop you doing things.
Not sure in this case.

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2009-09-15 04:07:51

#27

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6830|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
OTOH It always amazes me how many people jump in a car without familiarising themselves with how it works, even the basics, like how to switch it off.

Dealer was probably negligent in not explaining how the thing worked, and providing a vehicle where the pedal jammed.

Didn't see the text story before...just the audio.

Interesting bit here that reinforces Dilbert's first point:

The National Highway Transporatation Safety Administraton recall report from 2007 found some Lexus drivers with stuck accelerators tried to turn off the car with the engine control button but didn't know the button must be held for three seconds.

Also interesting that San Diego 6 doesn't appear to have spellcheck.

Probably good for the other people in the road that the driver was a police officer trained for high-speed driving.

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2009-09-15 05:49:23

#28

loubot: O' HAL naw!; +470|6997|Columbus, OH

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
In that situation I think you're supposed to put the car in Neutral, then brake.

I would of thought so too and hopefully rolling to a stop.

RIP to those involved in the crash

Last edited by loubot (2009-09-15 05:57:59)

2009-09-15 10:59:55

#29

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6121|College Park, MD

mcminty wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
ATG wrote:

Nope.
Apparently its a flaw with push button start, as read in comments.
There isn't a manual override on the shifter?

All the automatic transmission cars I've driven have a little cover next to the shifter that acts as a manual release for the shifter locking mechanism, so you can slide it to N or P.
Yup, in the car I drive (an auto 2000 Holden Vectra) you can just knock the stick forward to put it into neutral.

Yeah, my mom's BMW lets you put the car into neutral if you press on the shifter release. No need to use a manual override.

And remind me not to ever drive a Lexus. It's a bit strange considering they're always touting their latest innovations in safety and technology..

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2009-09-21 05:30:31

#30

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It was issued a statement from Lexus USA about this accident, it was used the wrong kind of floor mats in the loaner that caused the fatal accident that claimed the lives of 4 people.

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2009-09-21 05:43:40

#31

some_random_panda: Flamesuit essential; +454|6810

I thought most automatic cars could switch straight to neutral.

2009-09-21 07:10:48

#32

-MetaL*: Sup guies; +157|6053|Southern California

My Civic can be put to neutral from drive.

2009-09-21 07:21:12

#33

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6858|King Of The Islands

Dilbert_X wrote:
mcminty wrote:
Yup, in the car I drive (an auto 2000 Holden Vectra) you can just knock the stick forward to put it into neutral.
American cars have all sorts of fruity interlocks to stop you doing things.
Not sure in this case.

For safety, ofc.

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2009-09-21 10:33:35

#34

ISortGlass: Banned; +2|5777

Accelerator stuck? Brakes won't work? Car won't turn off? Sounds like sabotage to me.

2009-09-21 11:18:17

#35

JahManRed: wank; +646|7047|IRELAND

FEOS wrote:
They couldn't 1) put the car in P or R or L; 2) turn off the ignition (key)?

Yep. Lawsuit.

Did anyone survive?

Tragic.
If you turn of the ignition the steering usually locks.

Could have dropped it into first and hit the throttle, released the clutch and blown the engine if it had been stick shift.

2009-09-21 11:33:21

#36

Christbane: Member; +51|6654

the floor mats in my MR2 do the same thing after while they slide down and the pedal gets wedged. even the first time it happend i realized right away what it was. I just pushed in the clutch since it's manual and pulled the floor mat out. but even if it was an automatic im pretty sure I would have been able to correct the problem quickly.

I could be wrong about this particular modle but he should have been able to bump it up to neutral even if he had to push the button in. sometimes when panic sets in all reasonable thought goes out the window so it's hard to really judge without being there. turning the car off would have been possibly as fatal, as the steering would have locked and the power assist on the breaks would not be functional.

2009-09-21 11:38:39

#37

Christbane: Member; +51|6654

JahManRed wrote:
FEOS wrote:
They couldn't 1) put the car in P or R or L; 2) turn off the ignition (key)?

Yep. Lawsuit.

Did anyone survive?
Tragic.
If you turn of the ignition the steering usually locks.

Could have dropped it into first and hit the throttle, released the clutch and blown the engine if it had been stick shift.

dropping it into first at that speed would send you sideways and flip the car. and if it was manual just pushing in the clutch would suffice. there would be no need to let the clutch out at that pont

2009-09-21 12:14:11

#38

LaidBackNinja: Pony Slaystation; +343|7128|Charlie One Alpha

1) Read the article. It says witnesses saw fire coming from the wheels before the crash, which indicated heavy braking. In other words, the brakes were working but as long as the accelerator was pushed down apparently it wasn't enough to stop the car.

2) This is why I'll never drive automatic transmission. I've had my floor mat interfere with my pedals before, but my manual transmission saved my ass.

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2009-09-22 06:42:47

#39

Zombie_Affair: Amputee's...BOOP; +78|6235|Fattest Country in the world.

Cases like this are hard and arduous to proceed with. A case like this will last many years before anything happens. The most likely thing that will happen is the car manufacturer will drag the case through court until the person cannot afford to continue the proceedings, then the manufacturer will offer them a settlement and end the case. Then it's up to the federal government or legal ombudsman to determine whether or not to recall that model of car back to the manufacturer.

Last edited by Zombie_Affair (2009-09-22 06:44:49)

BF2S Forums Chilling 911 tape

Morpheus wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

ATG wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

mcminty wrote:

FEOS wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

FEOS wrote:

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