lol, no it's not.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
A necessary physical representation of skill and/or effort.
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you put effort in gamblingAussieReaper wrote:
lol, no it's not.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
A necessary physical representation of skill and/or effort.
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I can win the lottery without skill and effort of earning any of it at all.
But I think you knew that.
This is a topic that I felt deserved it's own thread. But yes, that is where this started.
HAHA because the forefathers envisioned a nation without money. That is where we have gone astray.
The fore fathers shouldn't come into this argument.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
HAHA because the forefathers envisioned a nation without money. That is where we have gone astray.
okay okay now I'm really going to stay away
there are plenty of actors and singers who have very little talent but are very rich.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
A necessary physical representation of skill and/or effort.
<3
AussieReaper wrote:
The fore fathers shouldn't come into this argument.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
HAHA because the forefathers envisioned a nation without money. That is where we have gone astray.
okay okay now I'm really going to stay away
Why do so many Americans think the fore fathers are the by all and end all for every discussion?
Did you read the post you told us to read?ATG wrote:
Of course you need to have some people who decide what it is that we all worked towards, and I say that is where the genius of the U.S. Constitution comes back in again.
I say America now is that which our forefathers fled from. It is not what the Thomas Jeffersons imagined, it is what's left over from olde Europe imperialistic ambitions and thievery. The American system of regular rotations of peoples in and out of high positions should be perfect, but it has been corrupted by money.
Then stop buying their records and attending their concerts if you think they have little talent. Someone obviously feels that they warrant money being spent on them.BN wrote:
there are plenty of actors and singers who have very little talent but are very rich.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
A necessary physical representation of skill and/or effort.
<3
I addressed what you are getting at in that thread.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
The fore fathers shouldn't come into this argument.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
HAHA because the forefathers envisioned a nation without money. That is where we have gone astray.
okay okay now I'm really going to stay away
Why do so many Americans think the fore fathers are the by all and end all for every discussion?Did you read the post you told us to read?ATG wrote:
Of course you need to have some people who decide what it is that we all worked towards, and I say that is where the genius of the U.S. Constitution comes back in again.
I say America now is that which our forefathers fled from. It is not what the Thomas Jeffersons imagined, it is what's left over from olde Europe imperialistic ambitions and thievery. The American system of regular rotations of peoples in and out of high positions should be perfect, but it has been corrupted by money.
Yeah, I did. And I said that was worth a read. But the US fore fathers shouldn't come into this thread however, the rest of the world use money too...Flaming_Maniac wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
The fore fathers shouldn't come into this argument.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
HAHA because the forefathers envisioned a nation without money. That is where we have gone astray.
okay okay now I'm really going to stay away
Why do so many Americans think the fore fathers are the by all and end all for every discussion?Did you read the post you told us to read?ATG wrote:
Of course you need to have some people who decide what it is that we all worked towards, and I say that is where the genius of the U.S. Constitution comes back in again.
I say America now is that which our forefathers fled from. It is not what the Thomas Jeffersons imagined, it is what's left over from olde Europe imperialistic ambitions and thievery. The American system of regular rotations of peoples in and out of high positions should be perfect, but it has been corrupted by money.
Take the first line at face value and disregard the supporting arguments to back it up?AussieReaper wrote:
Yeah, I did. And I said that was worth a read. But the US fore fathers shouldn't come into this thread however, the rest of the world use money too...
"Money is a m3thod of making transactions, which leads to hording, power and corruption." - ATG
Is what you should really take out of ATG's rambling. lol
The first line applies to money, which I dunno, I thought was the topic of this thread.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Take the first line at face value and disregard the supporting arguments to back it up?AussieReaper wrote:
Yeah, I did. And I said that was worth a read. But the US fore fathers shouldn't come into this thread however, the rest of the world use money too...
"Money is a m3thod of making transactions, which leads to hording, power and corruption." - ATG
Is what you should really take out of ATG's rambling. lol
Okay, since this one is getting modrailed, what supporting arguments FM?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Take the first line at face value and disregard the supporting arguments to back it up?AussieReaper wrote:
Yeah, I did. And I said that was worth a read. But the US fore fathers shouldn't come into this thread however, the rest of the world use money too...
"Money is a m3thod of making transactions, which leads to hording, power and corruption." - ATG
Is what you should really take out of ATG's rambling. lol
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Well, technically the conspiracy is that the government does get involved to keep certain men rich and others poor, and money has everything to do with it. If everyone is employed you have interest rates rise, added inflation, poor exchange rates etc and most governments want to set inflation between 2-3% and control this through monetary policy and fiscal policy.JohnG@lt wrote:
There's no conspiracy involved to keep certain men rich and others poor. Money has nothing to do with it. It's just a representation of ears of corn, a lawyers time, a car, a bike, whatever you want it to be. It has no other attributes other than a means to facilitate transactions of time between people.
When the economy is growing, they limit growth through the methods you outlined. When the economy is shrinking, they do the opposite.AussieReaper wrote:
There are times when they want more people unemployed for the good of an economy and will work to achieve that.
The whole post has to do with making a society without money. If you just wanted to post the first line and back it up with your own ideas, you should have done so. How else am I supposed to know you don't want me discussing the whole thing?AussieReaper wrote:
The first line applies to money, which I dunno, I thought was the topic of this thread.
Not restructuring the social inequalities and political reform.
The idea that money is the reason that we are deviating from the founding father's ideal is unfounded and untrue.ATG wrote:
Okay, since this one is getting modrailed, what supporting arguments FM?