IronFerret
Member
+48|7122|Mexico City.
I like this forum has been here since i start playing.. but nowadays its like battlefield police..

all of those "caugth those bastards" "i got a cheater"  "hes using a glinch" "he idles" "knifes an pistol player"

Are not supose to go on the complain seccion?
why they dont go to bfserver or whatever the proper site is? I mean if they wish so much to erase someone stats..

i find it really anoying and hypocrit if they r so worry they should go to the rigth place and waste their time there.. its like WItch Hunt.
Psycho~*DS*~
Banned
+50|7064
USE THE SEARCH NOOB!

j/k

I completely agree with you. Who cares if other people exploit, cheat, stat-pad. That's their own fault and waste of a game IMHO.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|7071|Greenwood, IN
I agree with ya also.  Admins should just tell everyone stfu about it cause everyone already knows.

Last edited by Brizzzer (2006-04-11 16:37:11)

oberst_enzian
Member
+234|7208|melb.au

IronFerret wrote:

I like this forum has been here since i start playing.. but nowadays its like battlefield police[...]why they dont go to bfserver or whatever the proper site is?[...] and waste their time there.. its like WItch Hunt.
good point Ferret, I agree completely. the idea of people getting so worked up and frothing at the mouth over some guy wasting his life by sitting in a corner and cranky away with a wrench in an upside-down boat made me laugh for awhile... now it's just sad. as for the recent commander glitch situation; geez, heaven forbid that attention gets drawn to a massive global points problem and that EA have to actually, like, fix it! omg! everyone who has been whining about the commander glitchers because they love their points so much have completely missed the point that those glitchers have done them a massive favour, as supposedely that glitch has existed since the start of global ranking, and been used sleathily for a long time.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,079|7237|PNW

I got accused of idling once in Karkand because I was sitting on the mounted LMG while commanding...

...when in fact, I had 16 kills from defending the main US base against specops incursions.
[CANADA]_Zenmaster
Pope Picard II
+473|7211

[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:

[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:

All I can say is his stats history point that he didn't use the commander glitch:

http://gibson.bf2s.com/player/45719422/history/Command/
http://gibson.bf2s.com/player/45719422/history/Score/

Note the consistant earning rate that is feasible - He is obviously a good commander. There are no huge discrepancies like the OP suggests of huge leaps made in single rounds in the middle of the night. The only leaps are where the stats were not updated in several days (rest your mouse on it to see).

Now you may say, perhaps he idled all day and then commander glitched one round at night and went to bed. But if we look at his kill stats (including artillery) - he would have low deaths as a commander:

http://gibson.bf2s.com/player/45719422/history/Kills/

We see a consistant and non-zero kill rate. Eg. he is not idling away and then jacking 2k points at night and going to bed.

Compound this with the fact that hundreds of people have played with him to scout him out and see if hes a wanker or not says that he did not get reset for what the OP said and what he did get reset for we do not know.

Edit: also note the consistant SPM you'd expect of a good commander with his own server (E.g. he almost always gets commander due to his rank, and the player base stays similar so that there are no huge peaks or dives in his commander score which is what you would expect in this scenario):

http://gibson.bf2s.com/player/45719422/history/SPM/
I'll say it again because you morons obviously did not read this. Stop thinking there even is a video of him padding points, hard data says there isn't. If he did something else we don't know, but why do you accuse the guy with no evidence?

It's not like EA is perfect...they just want to be seen as doing something, and that means getting a message across, e.g. they won't reset hundreds of 20,000 point noobs that have been reported and flagrantly padding, as they are too low to indicate anything to the community. Reset Firestorm, and that sends a huge message, for what specific reset reason we don't know, but it's not like EA cares...the cost of one persons stats to enforce a message to the community, right or wrong I think Firestorm is fucked end of story.

They won't roll it back, they will send a form mail, and that will be the end of it. Once a company gets that big, they stop specifically caring about the customer (e.g. delivering a real reason) because it costs money. At the same time they don't want to bruise their image and seem uncaring to the community as a whole - so they will do things like arbitrarily reset stats to "protect" the community, but if you get reset, your fucked end of story. Whether you were a loyal EA customer means nothing in this new economy.

At any rate, maybe Firestorm got reported for being abusive, for stat padding for 5 minutes once, for going on a team killing rampage one day in his noob days, who knows, everyone has something that can be construed as illegitimate and with EA's current system one strike and you are gone should you be in the top 10-20.

Everyone saying serve you right fucking cheater etc. is an ignorant SOB. This stats system has made the worst of people - it is no longer about a good time, its about accusing everyone of being armor whores and noob tube whores, and spawn killing stat padders. Salt on the regular accusations of cheating that occur in every other game, and you have a regular old mud brawl, except its not fun with hairy men in uniforms. Maybe he did stat pad, maybe a million of you have stat padded, but unless it is flagrant 200K points, honestly nobody cares, not even EA cares until you get into the top. But for God sake, you don't have to turn on someone like a rabid dog when they have been known to be a good team player - what more can you ask for? It's not like all of you are good Christian virgins refusing to fight and only playing medic.  Anyone of you I could screenshot some bad moments from your "careers" and report you too, and if you were in the Top 10, you'd probably get reset.

I wish EA did something about actual cheaters of which they are multiplying like no other. They are the fucking cheaters and I hate them, but the community can't fight back against them, because punk-buster has done nothing against the main hack, and neither has EA. So the community burns up over "stat-padders" while those douches with wall hacks walk around BF2 suprising even the best of us. Thats what burns me up and should burn you up too. Instead of focusing your attention on so-called stat-padders, start ranting about cheaters and maybe EA will listen like they did to your whining (not holding my breath).
This is from the firestorm thread - I completely agree with you it has become a witch hunt where anyone can be proven guilty because its so easy to construe anything as guilty evidence.

Zomg you teamkilled a blackhawk full of 6 people! Reset! Reset!
oberst_enzian
Member
+234|7208|melb.au

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I got accused of idling once in Karkand because I was sitting on the mounted LMG while commanding...

...when in fact, I had 16 kills from defending the main US base against specops incursions.
that's happened to me as well...

as well as being accussed of "points padding" because I covered a squad with a LAV from a distance while they took a flag. i got about 25+ kills, because the fools just kept on spawning even though they didn't have the wherewithal to take me out, and i got accussed of camping and "stat padding" because I didn't come and park next to the flag to take it - even though we TOOK it, before the accusation was made!! kick votes and calls for admin and all. what a fuckin joke.

funny thing about all that is, I caught and killed main whiner/accuser 'supermanAU' in our uncap later - in support kit, not spec ops - trying to get some free kills.... geez. as ferret said

IronFerret wrote:

really anoying and hypocrit
stfu and play the game fools.

Last edited by oberst_enzian (2006-04-11 19:04:30)

ComradeWho
Member
+50|7160|Southern California
i'm with you
i really think these forums are full of shitty players who're totally emotionally invested in this game and can only validate their wasted lives by trying to banish the "impure" elements from their "community." it's like the salem witch trials around here sometimes.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,079|7237|PNW

I got this once, but I was too late for a screenshot for memory's sake...

"I'm going to report you on BF2S forums!"

Not my fault if a chopper holds still long enough for me to shoot the copilot and the pilot.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-04-11 22:02:01)

DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|7097|Finland

According to some:

In-game tactics = Statpadding

A good day = cheating

Long verification time between maps = idling

Receiving a teamkill for copilot when shot down = insta-punish -> kick

Someone driving into a friendly mine = insta-punish -> kick (taped-down PgD-button)

Defense of main bases w. mounted MG or similar = badgewhoring

etc..

It's a bit annoying, when everytime you're doing whatever, you need to  think: "Wonder if I'm cheating now?"

E.g: stealing a tank from an enemy base can actually lead to a warning/kick on some servers, yet I'd call that tactics.. Or supporting infantry with an APC or similar from a distance while they are capturing a flag = baseraping?..

And so on..

My venting is done. Thank you.
I need around tree fiddy.
DeadboyUSMC
Member
+65|7164|NCFSU2

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I got this once, but I was too late for a screenshot for memory's sake...

"I'm going to report you on BF2S forums!"

Not my fault if a chopper holds still long enough for me to shoot the copilot and the pilot.
Nice. The sniping part I mean.

Last edited by DeadboyUSMC (2006-04-11 23:23:55)

kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7309|Bryan/College Station, TX
I vote that a forum section or a Sticky Cheater thread be deticated to Cheater! Threads. This way it doesnt' get  mixed in with the Chatter threads which are becoming less readable every day.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
Coolbeano
Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei
+378|7229

Yeah, i suggested that but it was dropped
Nikola Bathory
Karkand T-90 0wnage
+163|7252|Bulgaria
I don't know.
It's nice to see that people here what to help to get some stats paders and hackers RESET and BANNED 'cause they deserve it! Kill the stats padders! now!
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,079|7237|PNW

DonFck got it right. The Secret Police, in their bid to do good, will have everybody looking behind their back any time they're doing something that could possibly get them an award, for fear that the mighty forces of EA will wipe their slate.

In an extreme scenario, we'll be left with less global players than AvP2 or Savage.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-04-12 01:43:13)

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