IrishGrimReaper
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

TSI wrote:

Fine =/= good. I suppose my job requires me to have quite good sound, so maybe I'm a little perfectionist. But, have you ever opened up your logitechs? Do, and behold the pathetic workmanship inside. I had to resolder all the connections on my gf's old ones before they could make any sound.

As to the request: probably not. You can't get all that for 300 euros. The cheapest pair of decent speakers I could find are $80 w/o s&h.

But then again, this iPod generation doesn't realise that you can't get cheap good sound. 128 kbps and iPod docks seem to have replaced all the elaborate systems the previous gen had. Sad times.
I know if I was as good with audio as us I'd probably be the same. When I think of the audio debates that always seem to happen, it reminds me of a PC, buy a Dell or build your own and I know it's better to build your own and cheaper too. With audio, well the better stuff is more expensive we all know that, but they're better than some "crappy Logitech" by comparison.

But when you compare the Dell speakers or whatever he had before(which are terrible cause I've used them too), the leap from the "crappy Logitech" speakers is still immense.

I know if I had the money to spend on a really good sound system I would, I could near use my brothers Karaoke speakers to deafen myself hehe. But the thing here is, he's asking for alot that fits into €350 while keeping the parts generally good! No point spending €200 on a kick ass sound system to have everything else he's going to buy suck. The things listed and the speakers too, for their price aren't bad. And he will definitely notice the difference for £19, and he's said it himself, he doesn't like fancy mice, cause he knows a normal one will be more than good enough for him. I think the same is for them speakers, if you read the reviews of people on OC which say it's good, fair enough they won't have the knowledge of Audio as you and Freezer might. But they're buyers like him, who have some terrible, I mean really terrible speakers and are looking for a good cheap replacement that will offer good enough sounds, alot better than what he has.

I think he's alot better off getting good enough speakers than something rocking and then skimping on the other parts which he would benefit alot more from.

I totally agree with you when it comes to speakers, but you must see it from the normal buyers perspective too. There's a market for speakers like that, and that's why Logitech makes them and for <£20 they do their job.
The ones I linked to are still merely seven euros more expensive than the ones he had picked out. Seven euros is not much.
Ah, I taught you ment the speakers I suggest for £20 lulz, I was like wtf how?:S

If you're right about the pricing on them, then they are better. But what about shipping charges from the US? And I can't seem to find the rebate link or anything on that page.

The Uk version.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/M-Audio-Studiop … amp;sr=8-1

Is €119, and that includes shipping to England. For Ireland it's bound to be more. Could be about €130.
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Freezer7Pro
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IrishGrimReaper wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

I know if I was as good with audio as us I'd probably be the same. When I think of the audio debates that always seem to happen, it reminds me of a PC, buy a Dell or build your own and I know it's better to build your own and cheaper too. With audio, well the better stuff is more expensive we all know that, but they're better than some "crappy Logitech" by comparison.

But when you compare the Dell speakers or whatever he had before(which are terrible cause I've used them too), the leap from the "crappy Logitech" speakers is still immense.

I know if I had the money to spend on a really good sound system I would, I could near use my brothers Karaoke speakers to deafen myself hehe. But the thing here is, he's asking for alot that fits into €350 while keeping the parts generally good! No point spending €200 on a kick ass sound system to have everything else he's going to buy suck. The things listed and the speakers too, for their price aren't bad. And he will definitely notice the difference for £19, and he's said it himself, he doesn't like fancy mice, cause he knows a normal one will be more than good enough for him. I think the same is for them speakers, if you read the reviews of people on OC which say it's good, fair enough they won't have the knowledge of Audio as you and Freezer might. But they're buyers like him, who have some terrible, I mean really terrible speakers and are looking for a good cheap replacement that will offer good enough sounds, alot better than what he has.

I think he's alot better off getting good enough speakers than something rocking and then skimping on the other parts which he would benefit alot more from.

I totally agree with you when it comes to speakers, but you must see it from the normal buyers perspective too. There's a market for speakers like that, and that's why Logitech makes them and for <£20 they do their job.
The ones I linked to are still merely seven euros more expensive than the ones he had picked out. Seven euros is not much.
Ah, I taught you ment the speakers I suggest for £20 lulz, I was like wtf how?:S

If you're right about the pricing on them, then they are better. But what about shipping charges from the US? And I can't seem to find the rebate link or anything on that page.

The Uk version.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/M-Audio-Studiop … amp;sr=8-1

Is €119, and that includes shipping to England. For Ireland it's bound to be more. Could be about €130.
Ah. Dismiss that, then. Silly Amazon. I recommend these instead.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-10-08 13:53:07)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
IrishGrimReaper
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Yeah Amazon is a cunt for that tbh, tried order a few shits from there and it didn't play ball.
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Yellowman03
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edlT
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You don't have to blow big bucks on a "gaming mouse" but at least get something of high quality like a Microsoft Intelli and not an oddly shaped piece of shit.

Then again if you're going to look for looks > quality while being cheap, don't come back crying when everything you get breaks a week after warranty expires.
robcr9
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edlT wrote:

You don't have to blow big bucks on a "gaming mouse" but at least get something of high quality like a Microsoft Intelli and not an oddly shaped piece of shit.

Then again if you're going to look for looks > quality while being cheap, don't come back crying when everything you get breaks a week after warranty expires.
Idd, MX518 or Intelli, I'd say intelli is better for the games you play...and other stuff in general
ceslayer23
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TSI
Cholera in the time of love
+247|6241|Toronto

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

I know if I was as good with audio as us I'd probably be the same. When I think of the audio debates that always seem to happen, it reminds me of a PC, buy a Dell or build your own and I know it's better to build your own and cheaper too. With audio, well the better stuff is more expensive we all know that, but they're better than some "crappy Logitech" by comparison.

But when you compare the Dell speakers or whatever he had before(which are terrible cause I've used them too), the leap from the "crappy Logitech" speakers is still immense.

I know if I had the money to spend on a really good sound system I would, I could near use my brothers Karaoke speakers to deafen myself hehe. But the thing here is, he's asking for alot that fits into €350 while keeping the parts generally good! No point spending €200 on a kick ass sound system to have everything else he's going to buy suck. The things listed and the speakers too, for their price aren't bad. And he will definitely notice the difference for £19, and he's said it himself, he doesn't like fancy mice, cause he knows a normal one will be more than good enough for him. I think the same is for them speakers, if you read the reviews of people on OC which say it's good, fair enough they won't have the knowledge of Audio as you and Freezer might. But they're buyers like him, who have some terrible, I mean really terrible speakers and are looking for a good cheap replacement that will offer good enough sounds, alot better than what he has.

I think he's alot better off getting good enough speakers than something rocking and then skimping on the other parts which he would benefit alot more from.

I totally agree with you when it comes to speakers, but you must see it from the normal buyers perspective too. There's a market for speakers like that, and that's why Logitech makes them and for <£20 they do their job.
I know. I'm a bit of a wierd case. You're wise in what you say; just trying to save Oisin.

That being said, I'd suggest going for the most expensive Altec Lansing Oisin can bear to pay for. They'll provide good sound (my floormate has a set--I use them when DJing in his room for his gf) for a decent price, and will last a while.
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