I think it's sorta funny that the guy who says "arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics" is arguing on the internet......whether his points are valid or not, he's still competing.
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I think Helmet1 hit it the nail on the head... If all you do is wail away with the PKM, you can't hit the barn side of a broad door (sic) from any range longer than "barrell in belly". Admittendly, PKM sniping after 1.2 was pretty crazy, considering the hitting power of the PKM. If you think about the role of the support troop in squad combat, he shouldn't be even coming close to a sniping role, much less even trying to take out individual targets. His role is "Chief Pb slinger". He has effectively infinite ammo, body armor, and a weapon that can spew out amazing amounts of hard hitting ammo. The fact that that weapon sprays a bit, just means he has a larger fire hose to wash an area with than someone else. Try giving cover or pinning fire with any other weapon in the game, besides one of the three support weapons, and you will be dead in short order. Do it with the PKM, and folks might keep thier heads down a bit more.
IMHO, the PKM does to me in-game what the old BH minigun used to do. If I heard that chopper coming, with the guns firing, I RAN, and found cover NOW, because death was circling. If I hear a PKM, I try to locate the gunner and take him out, because he alone has the weapon to mow my entire squad down.
-Hik
IMHO, the PKM does to me in-game what the old BH minigun used to do. If I heard that chopper coming, with the guns firing, I RAN, and found cover NOW, because death was circling. If I hear a PKM, I try to locate the gunner and take him out, because he alone has the weapon to mow my entire squad down.
-Hik
It has changed for those who run and gun with the PKM, playing the Assault role, but with a PKM. But played as Support, deployed at a choke point, it's still a people killing machine. I'm glad the PKM is now not as effective in prone duels. A lighter gun should be more quicker and more accurate when diving to shoot. This is how it should be. I miss the sniping accuracy though. One shot sniping accuracy is based on it's real-life capability.Helmet1 wrote:
This gun is not a sniper rifle. Get over it. Use it as it was meant to be used, and it kicks butt. Go prone or crouch, use the sights, fire in bursts, and the points roll in. I am glad they changed it to be more realistic, now the whole team isnt using it at once.
My thought on PKM is that its anoob weapon no offence just my oppinion!!!!!!!!
rofl lol lol lol...bgthigfist wrote:
I think it's sorta funny that the guy who says "arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics" is arguing on the internet......whether his points are valid or not, he's still competing.
PKM sucks now. For it's rate of fire, it's way too innaccurate. Skill packs a rather large punch though.
Hard choice on which HMG to use...
Hard choice on which HMG to use...
LOL, look at my stats, then go look at yours and bend over because you have just been served bitch. Only thing I ever had a problem with was the game imbalance. PKM was too good in comparison to other guns but guess what, its still plenty good. It was possible to be good with any kit before 1.2. Well, noob tube was starting to get annoying but as long as that wasn't abused it was ok. Then they fucked with the PKM to make it the super gun which was dumb. It was always fine and needed no changing.Terrible_chester wrote:
I dont know, do you want a bottle? Your the only one in this thread acting like a baby.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Baby want a bottle? Gun still works as far as I can tell. Maybe you need to find a way to not suck.
I was stating my opinion on the changes. the delay does suck, and was overkill. You do lose far more drop and pop duels than ever because of it. Obviously you were one of the crybabies I ws talking about, you've probably bitched about everything thats ever fragged you in BF2, demanding it be nerfed, crying about it being too good. My statement about people like yourself bitching and moaning wasnt so much about the PKM as it was about your bitching and moaning in general. Im tired of the nerf stick always being the only answer bitches like you can come up with when faced with a challenge. Run a little search and learn a little about someone before you try to flame them sparky, because if you knew anything about me you'd know that I agreed that a change might be in order, I have gone on record several times saying that the only reason I use the PKM is because it pisses fucktards like you off and makes them cry. also I've said they should simply turn down the "first shot" accuracy and leave everything else alone, this would stop the "click click click" sniping everyone was pissed off about and still allow the PKM to do what it is supposed to do, kill in volume.
I dont know why Im even continuing this as your ADD has no doubt kicked in and you've already forgotten your own name but I'll forge on. Your weak ass attempt at a flame has been soundly ass fucked, hope you enjoyed it gimp. Next time try adding something to the discussion other than a tired ass lame take accussing people of crying when in reality your the only one crying at all. tell your mother I said "bitch you told me you were on the pill" and that I wish she would have aborted you. good night now!.
And like I said, the PKM is still a good gun and if you can't do good with it, it's your own fault.
omfg they're using stats to see who's better! !!!!!Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
LOL, look at my stats, then go look at yours and bend over because you have just been served bitch. Only thing I ever had a problem with was the game imbalance. PKM was too good in comparison to other guns but guess what, its still plenty good. It was possible to be good with any kit before 1.2. Well, noob tube was starting to get annoying but as long as that wasn't abused it was ok. Then they fucked with the PKM to make it the super gun which was dumb. It was always fine and needed no changing.Terrible_chester wrote:
I dont know, do you want a bottle? Your the only one in this thread acting like a baby.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Baby want a bottle? Gun still works as far as I can tell. Maybe you need to find a way to not suck.
I was stating my opinion on the changes. the delay does suck, and was overkill. You do lose far more drop and pop duels than ever because of it. Obviously you were one of the crybabies I ws talking about, you've probably bitched about everything thats ever fragged you in BF2, demanding it be nerfed, crying about it being too good. My statement about people like yourself bitching and moaning wasnt so much about the PKM as it was about your bitching and moaning in general. Im tired of the nerf stick always being the only answer bitches like you can come up with when faced with a challenge. Run a little search and learn a little about someone before you try to flame them sparky, because if you knew anything about me you'd know that I agreed that a change might be in order, I have gone on record several times saying that the only reason I use the PKM is because it pisses fucktards like you off and makes them cry. also I've said they should simply turn down the "first shot" accuracy and leave everything else alone, this would stop the "click click click" sniping everyone was pissed off about and still allow the PKM to do what it is supposed to do, kill in volume.
I dont know why Im even continuing this as your ADD has no doubt kicked in and you've already forgotten your own name but I'll forge on. Your weak ass attempt at a flame has been soundly ass fucked, hope you enjoyed it gimp. Next time try adding something to the discussion other than a tired ass lame take accussing people of crying when in reality your the only one crying at all. tell your mother I said "bitch you told me you were on the pill" and that I wish she would have aborted you. good night now!.
And like I said, the PKM is still a good gun and if you can't do good with it, it's your own fault.
they're flexing their internet muscles now!
He insulted me. I counter insulted. I think I won the retard olympics.
1.22 put the PKM and the MG36 back where they should be - best weapon for the middle distances (when prone).
Here are my weapon favorites at each range:
Extreme range - sniper
Long range - sniper/support
Mid range - support/assault/medic
Short range - assault/shottys
When I say "best" I mean in terms of effectiveness, not just accuracy. The carbines are more accurate, have good fire rates & clips, but have less punch. Imho that makes them good at all ranges, but master of none.
Peace.
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Here are my weapon favorites at each range:
Extreme range - sniper
Long range - sniper/support
Mid range - support/assault/medic
Short range - assault/shottys
When I say "best" I mean in terms of effectiveness, not just accuracy. The carbines are more accurate, have good fire rates & clips, but have less punch. Imho that makes them good at all ranges, but master of none.
Peace.
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Last edited by Kaniela (2006-04-09 01:26:49)
have any of you guys noticed that sometimes when you crouch you get the delay and sometimes not?
The only reason I brought my stats into this at all was so that Ajax could see that I had played almost exclusively with the support kit. I had hoped that this would help him understand that I would be able to see a difference in the gun after tha patch...unfortunatley he is the one who thinks he has "served" me via some stat comparasin....sadly for him I havnt looked at his stats, nor will I ever I dont really care what his stats are and again only went to mine to show him how often I play support.Rizen_Ji wrote:
omfg they're using stats to see who's better! !!!!!Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
LOL, look at my stats, then go look at yours and bend over because you have just been served bitch. Only thing I ever had a problem with was the game imbalance. PKM was too good in comparison to other guns but guess what, its still plenty good. It was possible to be good with any kit before 1.2. Well, noob tube was starting to get annoying but as long as that wasn't abused it was ok. Then they fucked with the PKM to make it the super gun which was dumb. It was always fine and needed no changing.Terrible_chester wrote:
I dont know, do you want a bottle? Your the only one in this thread acting like a baby.
I was stating my opinion on the changes. the delay does suck, and was overkill. You do lose far more drop and pop duels than ever because of it. Obviously you were one of the crybabies I ws talking about, you've probably bitched about everything thats ever fragged you in BF2, demanding it be nerfed, crying about it being too good. My statement about people like yourself bitching and moaning wasnt so much about the PKM as it was about your bitching and moaning in general. Im tired of the nerf stick always being the only answer bitches like you can come up with when faced with a challenge. Run a little search and learn a little about someone before you try to flame them sparky, because if you knew anything about me you'd know that I agreed that a change might be in order, I have gone on record several times saying that the only reason I use the PKM is because it pisses fucktards like you off and makes them cry. also I've said they should simply turn down the "first shot" accuracy and leave everything else alone, this would stop the "click click click" sniping everyone was pissed off about and still allow the PKM to do what it is supposed to do, kill in volume.
I dont know why Im even continuing this as your ADD has no doubt kicked in and you've already forgotten your own name but I'll forge on. Your weak ass attempt at a flame has been soundly ass fucked, hope you enjoyed it gimp. Next time try adding something to the discussion other than a tired ass lame take accussing people of crying when in reality your the only one crying at all. tell your mother I said "bitch you told me you were on the pill" and that I wish she would have aborted you. good night now!.
And like I said, the PKM is still a good gun and if you can't do good with it, it's your own fault.
they're flexing their internet muscles now!
the only thing you have "served" is your own ego...congrats. I wipe my ass with your stats, I only brought my own up in an attempt to show you that I play support almost exclusivley...you want to turn this into a stat show off pissing contest then have fun pissing on your own leg.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
LOL, look at my stats, then go look at yours and bend over because you have just been served bitch. Only thing I ever had a problem with was the game imbalance. PKM was too good in comparison to other guns but guess what, its still plenty good. It was possible to be good with any kit before 1.2. Well, noob tube was starting to get annoying but as long as that wasn't abused it was ok. Then they fucked with the PKM to make it the super gun which was dumb. It was always fine and needed no changing.Terrible_chester wrote:
I dont know, do you want a bottle? Your the only one in this thread acting like a baby.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Baby want a bottle? Gun still works as far as I can tell. Maybe you need to find a way to not suck.
I was stating my opinion on the changes. the delay does suck, and was overkill. You do lose far more drop and pop duels than ever because of it. Obviously you were one of the crybabies I ws talking about, you've probably bitched about everything thats ever fragged you in BF2, demanding it be nerfed, crying about it being too good. My statement about people like yourself bitching and moaning wasnt so much about the PKM as it was about your bitching and moaning in general. Im tired of the nerf stick always being the only answer bitches like you can come up with when faced with a challenge. Run a little search and learn a little about someone before you try to flame them sparky, because if you knew anything about me you'd know that I agreed that a change might be in order, I have gone on record several times saying that the only reason I use the PKM is because it pisses fucktards like you off and makes them cry. also I've said they should simply turn down the "first shot" accuracy and leave everything else alone, this would stop the "click click click" sniping everyone was pissed off about and still allow the PKM to do what it is supposed to do, kill in volume.
I dont know why Im even continuing this as your ADD has no doubt kicked in and you've already forgotten your own name but I'll forge on. Your weak ass attempt at a flame has been soundly ass fucked, hope you enjoyed it gimp. Next time try adding something to the discussion other than a tired ass lame take accussing people of crying when in reality your the only one crying at all. tell your mother I said "bitch you told me you were on the pill" and that I wish she would have aborted you. good night now!.
And like I said, the PKM is still a good gun and if you can't do good with it, it's your own fault.
The accuracy of the gun is fine, I have no problem with it. the problem I have is with the increased delay when going prone. It handicaps the kit unneccessarily.
I still do fine with it, although I find it a bit funny that now I play -more- like a sniper than ever before since I cant risk getting up and then dropping down to win duels I crawl along cutting down those who run up on me.
At anyrate ajax, congrats on what Im sure are some really impressive..stats...your right, you win the retard onlympics, all of us lesser retards bow down to your uber retardedness.
lol, ya, after hearing you bitching about the PKM I decided to go try it out for fun. After many gold medals on Karkand and doubling the tanks scores I'd say the gun is fine.
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