BF2S Forums Why do you think Wake is good?

I like the atmosphere, sunny island ect, i dig it

I think most people like it because of the jet whoring + good ground battles since the map is pretty linear ( in terms of travelling from flag to flag)

Can't say I think much of Wake at all TBH.. 2 straight lines of land a ship and a blob of sand with some arty on it... hardly the most complicated of arenas, so no design awards.

Sneaky sneaky catchy monkey infantry fights are quite good on there tho... whenu dont have tanks, choppers, and planes blasting 37 different shades of shit out of you... sorry but with so little land to move on theres not much room for options, all very samey and tedious tbh.

And god help USMC if they get stuck on the ship at the start lol.

I hate Wake but I generally play with the same few people, who don't mind it, so I'll play it anyway.

imdead wrote:

It's the best map ONLY for the flyboys in the J-10. It's a massive rapeage of the ESSEX. Where else can you get loads of points for being on Chinas side and all the US has is a little itty bitty island surrounded by Tanks/snipers on each side, while arty and J-10 fly over dropping on load whilst on there same flightpath to the rape the Essex for the awaiting wannabe Officers for the downed F15 that tried to take off because they forgot to push 'S' (or got TK'd). You have to be a GREAT pilot to overcome the Chinese warfare. J-10's can drop payloads on the Essex, then on thier way back to reload, snag the idiots in the boats with the MG's. 

Whoever thinks this is false, doesn't play Wake alot then.

if thats the case then why are there ALWAYS full wake servers?
32 flyboys in every map?
obviusly you are not a fly boy because you dont have any idea what wake is....f15?

I hate Wake with a passion.  I won't play it, and will switch server immediately when that map comes into a rotation.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

I hate Wake with a passion.  I won't play it, and will switch server immediately when that map comes into a rotation.

I do the same.  In fact, it seems that after I disconnect and check the server I was just on at least 10-14 players disconnect.  Its a flyboys paradise and I'm not willing to play the crap shoot and hope for an infantry battle.  All too often you can go through the map, US or China and not have a single infantry battle.  I'd suggest that servers that aren't 24/7 Wake leave that map to those that are.  Then again, I'm not willing to pay for a ranked server so by all means run it the way you like and thank you for letting me play on it

Last edited by Ugaminor (2006-04-13 11:37:35)

Too many people hanging at the run ways for me. The WHOLE map. The US could be taking the Chinese Airport flag....last flag on the map....the 10 guys on the run way will still sit there waiting for the plane to spawn. Morons. I enjoy it with team mates from time to time. Not lone wolf. If I want to fly I'll get in a low population Wake server.....but then again check my flight stats. Yikes.

if your woking towards the WCR...

So, lets quote some of the positives:

if your woking towards the WCR...

i like wake coz its the fastest loaded map on my system lol!

I think most people like it because of the jet whoring

Does anyone think they can give a realistic reason why it is better than other maps?

Hyper wrote:

imdead wrote:

It's the best map ONLY for the flyboys in the J-10. It's a massive rapeage of the ESSEX. Where else can you get loads of points for being on Chinas side and all the US has is a little itty bitty island surrounded by Tanks/snipers on each side, while arty and J-10 fly over dropping on load whilst on there same flightpath to the rape the Essex for the awaiting wannabe Officers for the downed F15 that tried to take off because they forgot to push 'S' (or got TK'd). You have to be a GREAT pilot to overcome the Chinese warfare. J-10's can drop payloads on the Essex, then on thier way back to reload, snag the idiots in the boats with the MG's. 

Whoever thinks this is false, doesn't play Wake alot then.

if thats the case then why are there ALWAYS full wake servers?
32 flyboys in every map?
obviusly you are not a fly boy because you dont have any idea what wake is....f15?

Yeah, You're right , I don't have any idea what WAKE is, Its just my 3 most played map that's all, I don't know what planes everyone has, so sue me. All I know is there is two planes that each team starts out with and one just bombards the ship before the other plane takes off, who has time to read the serial # on the jet to even know what make that US plane is, shit they cant even find the black - box when the J-10 is done. And besides me reading up, why don't you as there aren't always full wake servers. Just take it into consideration that what I previously said is true, don't look at my misspellings, what SuV's/ Tank Serial #'s, AA equipment as the main topic.

Wake used to rock before the change in air-to-air missles which has made the J10 totally dominate even more then before (which is impressive - good job DICE! Oh how you fucked that up). Then they nerfed the miniguns and the Blackhawk hps. The engineering got nerfed in 1.2 or prior - can't quite remember. Ground AA got improved. All planes got weakened, but AA can't hit the J10, but it will hit the F35s. J10 can escape a chasing F35 without damage, but an F35 will get utterly destroyed every single engagement by the J10. Hence USMC is relegated to getting spawn raped continually on the carrier by 2 J10s, Artillery, and 1 Z10 = total loss USMC.

It used to be good because the planes could dominate for a bit, but the black hawk used properly would balance the J10s being used properly. I.e. You would take a bunch of deaths in the hawk your first few attempts to get the airfield, but when you finally got it, you could then rape the rest of the flags with miniguns, while you're squad jumps out and caps the flags.

Finally China would be down to one flag, and you would circle and rape the shit out of them. It is extremely hard to cap out 32 guys spawning on one flag though, so it was best to just circle, fire, and repair. Further more the F35s could at least do some bombing damage to China; now the J10s shoot them down on sight so USMC has no airsupport, the Hawk gets destroyed, and the cobra gets destroyed. Then all the RIBs can't make it to shore because they are victims to the waiting tanks on the beach and the F35s cant take the tanks out nor can the Cobra because of said J10s.

This previous balance (there was some even if it was still weighted in Chinas favor) meant that if you played China and you were a good pilot, you got lots of points and a win. If you played USMC and you had a good buddy to gun in the BHawk, you would win and get more points then you would on China. (Pilot = Engy, Gunner = Medic; Pilot swaps out to repair when needed, and the Bhawk will circle on its own with no pilot [try it], while the gunner owns all those ground guys). Drop the Bhawk down if you have more then 2 in your squad and grab the flags one by one. So in that regard it was fair if you had decent pilots on either team. Also, if you got stuck playing ground, you were never too far from a vehicle, and never too far from infantry to shoot at while ground pounding. Also, there are tons of flag caps to be had on wake because they change hands so fast.

Now, wake sucks unless you are China where your pilots and Z10 will get all the points, and everyone else including the other team will get fuck all. It was like this a bit before, but it is even worse now. This map blows now. The key to the balanced map was the BHawk if used properly would turn the tables, as well as the F35s at least being 75% as usefull as the J10s, now they are like 10% as useful unless the J10 pilots really stink.

Last edited by [CANADA]_Zenmaster (2006-04-15 14:17:48)

i find it boring... its linear combat like karkand.. i think thats the secret of popular maps. they are straigth and narrow.