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It took you 8 years to figure Bush had to go so cut him some slack ...lowing wrote:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/november_2009/58_say_next_president_likely_to_be_republican
less than a year in and more than half of those polled thinks this asshole has got to go. No surprise there
Yer right, but usually it takes a bit longer than 10 months for that pendulum ot swing. as Varregg pointed out. It does go to show who is considered more dangerous for our country.Mekstizzle wrote:
Depends on how things go in the next few years still. But It is sort of shaping up to be that Obama is going to pave the way for a quite far right president once his term is over, just like Bush paved the way for quite a leftist President (Obama)
That's why I say the US is a pendulum swingingly wildly and gaining momentum until it reaches breaking point
That's the wrong conclusion from the data given.lowing wrote:
less than a year in and more than half of those polled thinks this asshole has got to go.
Ehrm ... if you can dig up a phone poll from 10 months into Bushs presidency asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ...lowing wrote:
Yer right, but usually it takes a bit longer than 10 months for that pendulum ot swing. as Varregg pointed out. It does go to show who is considered more dangerous for our country.Mekstizzle wrote:
Depends on how things go in the next few years still. But It is sort of shaping up to be that Obama is going to pave the way for a quite far right president once his term is over, just like Bush paved the way for quite a leftist President (Obama)
That's why I say the US is a pendulum swingingly wildly and gaining momentum until it reaches breaking point
Can't find anywhere where this poll asked only Republicans. It asked "likey voters" Yeah I found that little flaw in your post.Varegg wrote:
Ehrm ... if you can dig up a phone poll from 10 months into Bushs presidency asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ...lowing wrote:
Yer right, but usually it takes a bit longer than 10 months for that pendulum ot swing. as Varregg pointed out. It does go to show who is considered more dangerous for our country.Mekstizzle wrote:
Depends on how things go in the next few years still. But It is sort of shaping up to be that Obama is going to pave the way for a quite far right president once his term is over, just like Bush paved the way for quite a leftist President (Obama)
That's why I say the US is a pendulum swingingly wildly and gaining momentum until it reaches breaking point
So really it only shows how flawd phone polls is, asking the right questions you can get the poll result you want ...
NOT less than a year into the administration however. You are speaking results at the end of term, not in its infancy.Mekstizzle wrote:
Bush had the "advantage" of 9/11 to boost his ratings. You gotta remember, more people voted for Gore than Bush at the end of the day. Obama won by quite a margin upon comparison.
Don't hold your breathe for another democratic victory.AussieReaper wrote:
The only poll that matters comes election day.
Did I mention they only asked republicans? ... ehr ... no I didn't ...lowing wrote:
Can't find anywhere where this poll asked only Republicans. It asked "likey voters" Yeah I found that little flaw in your post.Varegg wrote:
Ehrm ... if you can dig up a phone poll from 10 months into Bushs presidency asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ...lowing wrote:
Yer right, but usually it takes a bit longer than 10 months for that pendulum ot swing. as Varregg pointed out. It does go to show who is considered more dangerous for our country.
So really it only shows how flawd phone polls is, asking the right questions you can get the poll result you want ...
"asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ..."Varegg wrote:
Did I mention they only asked republicans? ... ehr ... no I didn't ...lowing wrote:
Can't find anywhere where this poll asked only Republicans. It asked "likey voters" Yeah I found that little flaw in your post.Varegg wrote:
Ehrm ... if you can dig up a phone poll from 10 months into Bushs presidency asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ...
So really it only shows how flawd phone polls is, asking the right questions you can get the poll result you want ...
dems is short for democrats lowing, not short for republicans ...lowing wrote:
"asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ..."Varegg wrote:
Did I mention they only asked republicans? ... ehr ... no I didn't ...lowing wrote:
Can't find anywhere where this poll asked only Republicans. It asked "likey voters" Yeah I found that little flaw in your post.
Come on Varegg make it challenging
I know what you said Varegg. You make the claim that if if "DEMS" were polled about Bush th same results would ensue. I am saying that is fine however, on the flip side, it was not "REPS" that was polled about Obama, it was a genral poll. not one specifically for republicans like you are trying to compare to an exclusivley deomcratic poll.Varegg wrote:
dems is short for democrats lowing, not short for republicans ...lowing wrote:
"asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ..."Varegg wrote:
Did I mention they only asked republicans? ... ehr ... no I didn't ...
Come on Varegg make it challenging
I suggest you start reading what people post before you respond, would perhaps make you look like less of a jackass ... but by all means carry on if you prefer otherwise ...
Oh I have confidence in another poor Republican candidate, not as bad as the McCain/Palin dynamo of course.lowing wrote:
Don't hold your breathe for another democratic victory.AussieReaper wrote:
The only poll that matters comes election day.
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lowing, remember to vote this time!AussieReaper wrote:
Oh I have confidence in another poor Republican candidate, not as bad as the McCain/Palin dynamo of course.lowing wrote:
Don't hold your breathe for another democratic victory.AussieReaper wrote:
The only poll that matters comes election day.
Sigh ... my point was to NOT base your opinions on a phonepoll because they can be altered into the result you want by asking specific questions, asking just dems was just an example to get the point across more clearly ...lowing wrote:
I know what you said Varegg. You make the claim that if if "DEMS" were polled about Bush th same results would ensue. I am saying that is fine however, on the flip side, it was not "REPS" that was polled about Obama, it was a genral poll. not one specifically for republicans like you are trying to compare to an exclusivley deomcratic poll.Varegg wrote:
dems is short for democrats lowing, not short for republicans ...lowing wrote:
"asking dems what they thought I bet you would have an exact match ..."
Come on Varegg make it challenging
I suggest you start reading what people post before you respond, would perhaps make you look like less of a jackass ... but by all means carry on if you prefer otherwise ...
Maybe you are the one who needs to read.
Voter turnout shouldn't be 65% and considered "high".DonFck wrote:
lowing, remember to vote this time!AussieReaper wrote:
Oh I have confidence in another poor Republican candidate, not as bad as the McCain/Palin dynamo of course.lowing wrote:
Don't hold your breathe for another democratic victory.
Off topic: you need to get rid of the electorate system and try out direct voting.
Our stats are sad with regards to the voting%:AussieReaper wrote:
Voter turnout shouldn't be 65% and considered "high".DonFck wrote:
lowing, remember to vote this time!AussieReaper wrote:
Oh I have confidence in another poor Republican candidate, not as bad as the McCain/Palin dynamo of course.
Off topic: you need to get rid of the electorate system and try out direct voting.
Make it compulsory like in Australia and get 95% of the country above 18yo voting.
This will probably sound harsh then:DonFck wrote:
Compulsary voting sounds very harsh. What's the penalty?
http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_australia.htmInitially the Australian Electoral Commission will write to all apparent non-voters requesting that they either provide a reason for their failure to vote or pay a $20 penalty.
If, within 21 days, the apparent non-voter fails to reply, cannot provide a valid and sufficient reason or declines to pay the penalty, then prosecution proceedings may be instigated. If the matter is dealt with in court and the person is found guilty, he or she may be fined up to $50 plus court costs.
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