rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6258
To kill British Troops

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no … CMP=AFCYAH

The sooner we pull out the better, we should let the scum to our west sort out the problems they have created.

Last edited by rammunition (2009-11-13 04:15:42)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7071|Canberra, AUS

rammunition wrote:

To kill British Troops

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no … CMP=AFCYAH

The sooner we pull out the better, we should let the scum to our west sort out the problems they have created.
I don't think you read the article. I've read two random paragraphs and they basically contradict your point of view.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6258

Spark wrote:

rammunition wrote:

To kill British Troops

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no … CMP=AFCYAH

The sooner we pull out the better, we should let the scum to our west sort out the problems they have created.
I don't think you read the article. I've read two random paragraphs and they basically contradict your point of view.
No, I've read the lot. The U.S pays suspected insurgents to not attack their conveys so they can reach their destination.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6549|what

Not concrete that those funds are making there way to insurgents, thought it wouldn't be too much of a stretch - but the article doesn't provide anything substantial.

Bribing tribal elders and warlords in those parts is also a common practice. Hearts and minds bought with gold, so to speak. But in those cases it usually is well worth it being they can have so much influence to encourage local support.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,821|6502|eXtreme to the maX
Money is being paid directly to the Taliban by the US DoD.
The real secret to trucking in Afghanistan is security on the perilous roads, controlled by warlords, tribal militias, insurgents and Taliban commanders. The American executive I talked to was fairly specific about it: "The army is basically paying the Taliban not to shoot at them. It is Department of Defense money."

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-13 04:28:32)

Fuck Israel
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7017|London, England
I remember reading a story about how, I think it was Italian troops who were paying off the Taliban, or something like that. Italian, Spanish or German, I forgot. Anyway once their time was up and they left the area for the French, they didn't tell the French about it all so when they left, the money left, and the French were attacked.

That was around the time if you remember, when lots of French soldiers died in a massive ambush awhile ago.

Truth be told, the Taliban is just an umbrella word. Not all of them are fanatical crazy AQ Muslims hell bent on destroying the west, money usually plays a big part in it all, same thing in Iraq.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-11-13 04:25:04)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6807|'Murka

So...you're saying they get their money for IEDs to kill British troops from the US, who pays the Taliban not to set off IEDs to kill troops.

Makes perfect sense. Not at all contradictory.

Crackerjack, objective, non-emotional reporting there. Gotta love it.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7113

Mekstizzle wrote:

I remember reading a story about how, I think it was Italian troops who were paying off the Taliban, or something like that. Italian, Spanish or German, I forgot. Anyway once their time was up and they left the area for the French, they didn't tell the French about it all so when they left, the money left, and the French were attacked.

That was around the time if you remember, when lots of French soldiers died in a massive ambush awhile ago.

Truth be told, the Taliban is just an umbrella word. Not all of them are fanatical crazy AQ Muslims hell bent on destroying the west, money usually plays a big part in it all, same thing in Iraq.
Money is also the big one for recruiting, when most fighters are paid around 300-500 usd a month, GDP per capita is around 800usd...
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,821|6502|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:

So...you're saying they get their money for IEDs to kill British troops from the US, who pays the Taliban not to set off IEDs to kill US troops.
Fixed.
Anyone who doesn't pay gets blown up.
Crackerjack, objective, non-emotional reporting there. Gotta love it.
Shoot the messenger eh? Its US officials being directly quoted, where's the emotion?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-13 04:31:29)

Fuck Israel
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6258

FEOS wrote:

So...you're saying they get their money for IEDs to kill British troops from the US, who pays the Taliban not to set off IEDs to kill U.S troops.
Fixed
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7017|London, England

FEOS wrote:

So...you're saying they get their money for IEDs to kill British troops from the US, who pays the Taliban not to set off IEDs to kill troops.
''Who pays the Taliban not to set off IED's to kill convoys of certain companies, who decide to pay off the Taliban'' would be more appropriate. The Article talks about a company who refuses to pay the 'Taliban' (Four Horsemen International) and thus comes under constant attack.

Although at the end of the day, these Taliban who allow the convoys to go through as just as bad as the people who pay them in terms of "aiding the enemy", because they're allowing their enemy to be resupplied. So it goes both ways... what a messed up place.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7048|USA

rammunition wrote:

To kill British Troops

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no … CMP=AFCYAH

The sooner we pull out the better, we should let the scum to our west sort out the problems they have created.
We created huh? do tell, cua I can't think of a single instance where GB has not had their hand right there with us.
Not sure but I am starting to get the impressionb that Ramm hates America.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6919|...

The Romans paid Attila the Hun
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6807|'Murka

rammunition wrote:

FEOS wrote:

So...you're saying they get their money for IEDs to kill British troops from the US, who pays the Taliban not to set off IEDs to kill U.S troops.
Fixed
That's not what the article said, Ramm. You fixed nothing.

If you're going to make claims, back them up. The article talks about warlords providing security along key logistical routes, and the concerns (valid) that (~10% of) the money being paid to those "security" companies is making its way back to the Taliban. There's nothing there about US troops not being targeted because the US is paying and the UK troops being targeted because the US is paying.

You're making wild-assed claims not supported by your source.

So not-at-all surprising.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,821|6502|eXtreme to the maX
More than likely US and other nations are funding the attacks on themselves.

Wow what a fuckup.
Fuck Israel
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7017|London, England
Really though they probably get more money from ordinary Western civilians than any Government could hope for. You know, all that Heroin Opium shit. Although I always hear contradicting things about the Taliban and Heroin, back when they controlled Afghanistan you heard that they tried to stop Heroin production, but now you hear they are funded by it and encourage it. Maybe it's just cos back then was peace time and now it's war time so things change.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7071|Canberra, AUS

rammunition wrote:

FEOS wrote:

So...you're saying they get their money for IEDs to kill British troops from the US, who pays the Taliban not to set off IEDs to kill U.S troops.
Fixed
i'm fairly sure ied attacks happen on us troops. probably more.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6925|Global Command
Ram, perhaps you threads would go better if you didn't come in yelling, arms flailing and calling an entire nation scum. 


How would you like it if islam was refered to as a goat fucking flea invested sewer religion?

Use some common decency, then your terrorist pr jobs will go over better.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7111|US

Mekstizzle wrote:

Really though they probably get more money from ordinary Western civilians than any Government could hope for. You know, all that Heroin Opium shit. Although I always hear contradicting things about the Taliban and Heroin, back when they controlled Afghanistan you heard that they tried to stop Heroin production, but now you hear they are funded by it and encourage it. Maybe it's just cos back then was peace time and now it's war time so things change.
They did "stop"  heroin production for a year.  By doing this, they improved their PR image (avoiding action by the West) and artificially raised the price of opium.  It was a win-win, since they had a multi-year stockpile of opium, at the time.  They made billions, and avoided negative consequences.
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5797

ATG wrote:

Ram, perhaps you threads would go better if you didn't come in yelling, arms flailing and calling an entire nation scum. 


How would you like it if islam was refered to as a goat fucking flea invested sewer religion?

Use some common decency, then your terrorist pr jobs will go over better.
thats my problem with this forum.  the PC police come crying about islam but could give a rats ass about this.  fucking fail.

btw you are correct about islam.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5870|Ventura, California
I don't have time to read this right now. I thought the first couple paragraphs were useless.

"The man had long black beard, a prostheses arm and a crippled right hand"

Wow, that explains everything.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6843|Chicago, IL
Calling a nation of 330 million people "scum" isn't the best way to get them to listen to your argument

Even Iran calls us a great satan
Red Forman
Banned
+402|5797
ramm you are the biggest fucking retard i have ever seen.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5870|Ventura, California
Wow somebody is worse than me?

S.Lythberg, people that call us the "Great Satan" and then say we're horrible for slightly insulting them are utter faggots.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6994|Seattle

Hey ramm, suck it.

<3 downy~
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

Board footer

Privacy Policy - © 2025 Jeff Minard