Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6864|Boulder, CO
Inb4 Kmarion and co.

EDIT: NASA found a "substantial" amount of water in the Cabeus crater, rather than just the small amount that was proven to exist before.



Since the impacts, the LCROSS science team has been working almost nonstop analyzing the huge amount of data the spacecraft collected. The team concentrated on data from the satellite's spectrometers, which provide the most definitive information about the presence of water. A spectrometer examines light emitted or absorbed by materials that helps identify their composition.

"We are ecstatic," said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS project scientist and principal investigator at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, Calif. "Multiple lines of evidence show water was present in both the high angle vapor plume and the ejecta curtain created by the LCROSS Centaur impact. The concentration and distribution of water and other substances requires further analysis, but it is safe to say Cabeus holds water."

The team took the known near infrared spectral signatures of water and other materials and compared them to the spectra collected by the LCROSS near infrared spectrometer of the impact.

"We were only able to match the spectra from LCROSS data when we inserted the spectra for water," said Colaprete. "No other reasonable combination of other compounds that we tried matched the observations. The possibility of contamination from the Centaur also was ruled out."

Additional confirmation came from an emission in the ultraviolet spectrum that was attributed to hydroxyl, one product from the break-up of water by sunlight. When atoms and molecules are excited, they release energy at specific wavelengths that are detected by the spectrometers. A similar process is used in neon signs. When electrified, a specific gas will produce a distinct color. The ultraviolet visible spectrometer detected hydroxyl signatures just after impact that are consistent with a water vapor cloud in sunlight.

...

"The full understanding of the LCROSS data may take some time. The data is that rich," said Colaprete. "Along with the water in Cabeus, there are hints of other intriguing substances. The permanently shadowed regions of the moon are truly cold traps, collecting and preserving material over billions of years."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8359744.stm

and

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROS … sults.html

I have of course selectively copy and pasted from the NASA article to save time and give the general gist.

What do you guys think the reprecussions will be from this discovery, more moon landing funding for research? Bigger eventual plans for the moon? Easier colonisation?

also inb4 Red "Save money, sod the moon"

Last edited by Noobeater (2009-11-13 16:57:33)

Jenspm
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+1,716|7150|St. Andrews / Oslo

They found Ice, didn't they?
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Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6864|Boulder, CO

Jenspm wrote:

They found Ice, didn't they?
It would have originally been ice but the blast from the collision would have vaporised it and allowed them to scan through particles of water vapour in the cloud of debris. So yes the actual Craters will contain water in the form of Ice though how pure the water is and what ratio of water to other elements in the craters I do not know.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7038|London, England
It was discovered awhile ago but they dismissed it. Then again quite recently a joint ISRO/NASA venture went got some good proof that there was water at the poles and shit. And now this is the exclamation mark in it all. Interesting times indeed.

I watched a documentary about this mission recently, you had loads of astronomers looking to see if they would be able to see the impact plume etc.. but the shadow from a nearby mountain made everything practically invisible so they couldn't see shit, but it all worked to plan and now you got these great results.
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6864|Boulder, CO

Mekstizzle wrote:

It was discovered awhile ago but they dismissed it. Then again quite recently a joint ISRO/NASA venture went got some good proof that there was water at the poles and shit. And now this is the exclamation mark in it all. Interesting times indeed.

I watched a documentary about this mission recently, you had loads of astronomers looking to see if they would be able to see the impact plume etc.. but the shadow from a nearby mountain made everything practically invisible so they couldn't see shit, but it all worked to plan and now you got these great results.
I saw that as well, last months edition of The sky at night I believe, not sure what looked older the legend that is Sir Patrick Moore or the moon itself.

Though watching the amateur astronomers jizz themselves over false positives was entertaining.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7038|London, England
That Sir Patrick Moore guy freaks me out

Oh shit he was born near my old skool endz!

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-11-13 17:06:05)

Red Forman
Banned
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how much water?  what kind of water?  will it like burn your skin if you touch it?  meh.....
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6864|Boulder, CO
He freaks me out a bit, I have no idea how his monocle stays on to be honest, it just seems to sit on his eye socket without any thing to fix it there. You have to admire his dedication and passion to the subject though.

For Forman

BBC News wrote:

Scientists who have studied the data now say instruments trained on the impact plume saw copious quantities of water-ice and water vapour.

One researcher described this as the equivalent of "a dozen two-gallon buckets" of water.
The water would be so cold as to burn your skin yes but the important thing is that it is there and can be accessed so it would make it easier to develop the moon.

Last edited by Noobeater (2009-11-13 17:09:04)

Spidery_Yoda
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Mekstizzle wrote:

That Sir Patrick Moore guy freaks me out
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7018|132 and Bush

Noobeater wrote:

Inb4 Kmarion and co.
Ya know.. I really don't want to be the only one..lul

Jenspm wrote:

They found Ice, didn't they?
significant amounts of water ice have been found at the Moon’s South Pole.
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Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6881|Tyne & Wear, England

Mekstizzle wrote:

That Sir Patrick Moore guy freaks me out

Oh shit he was born near my old skool endz!
My Grandad had dinner with him.

That is all.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7018|132 and Bush

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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7038|London, England
Now imagine how much water could be found if we nuked the moon, one step closer to the reality of finally sticking it to that damn moon and it thinks its so cool that's the worst
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6986|Mountains of NC

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Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|6182|Belgium
So what are the possibilities now there's water on the moon (which has been found a while back, no?)
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7038|London, England

Jebus wrote:

So what are the possibilities now there's water on the moon (which has been found a while back, no?)
Makes something like a Moon base massively more viable.

Water is Water, for a start. Then you have the fact that it can be broken down to produce Oxygen for breathing. Then you have the fact that it can also be broken down into Oxygen/Hydrogen for Rocket fuel. Probably a whole load of other shit too. Basically, it's a big game changer.
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6986|Mountains of NC

be funny if that was all the water on the moon and that one area ............ that we blew up .......... and vaporised
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jord
Member
+2,382|7095|The North, beyond the wall.
You know those faggy certificates saying you own a bit of land on the moon?

I wonder if you have one of those they are actually a real legal document and if passed down to kids it can be built on in the future? Or if you own a bit of the crater where the water was found you can sell it to NASA for like 5mil.

Interesting
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7038|London, England

SEREMAKER wrote:

be funny if that was all the water on the moon and that one area ............ that we blew up .......... and vaporised
Nah they already found quite alot a few months ago around the poles in the shadow regions.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Water_Detected_at_High_Latitudes_on_the_Moon.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Water_Around_Fresh_Moon_Crater.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Mineralogy_Mapper


And nah Jord that shit isn't actually properly real, you wouldn't be able to do that.

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