E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7158|UK
Ok, I've just spent a good 2 hours playing cleansweep 18 people on 64 server. Lots of times did I get behind a jet that was crawling along, fired two missiles (thats all it takes so no need to spam & this is after flares) and they both miss, despite being directly behind it with nothing to get in my way.

Two more missiles. maybe one hits..the other one misses...repeat.


This is evident in the Mec and USMC jets. J-10 however is virtually invincible. When I'm flying that, I'm looking for my next target as soon as I fire off two missiles.

Also, flares seem useless these days too. I've been trying to lose a jet dropped flares as soon as I see him release, only for loads of missiles to spam my way missing all my flares and killing me. I've seen it happen to others when I'm flying.

Sometimes I get the feeling we're back how it used to be where the missiles didnt do anything - but now it seems like the flares don't do anything either.

I'm not the best in a jet, quite frankly I don't care. It just annoys me that the missiles and flares are very inconsistant.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7190|California

however wrong you may be, i see your point. my advice, one you have a solid lock, fire off 4 missiles, at least 2 will hit. works for me every time
Coolbeano
Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei
+378|7233

As long as you know how to keep on their tail, it shouldn't be too hard. The moment you have a good lock fire as many as you can before you lose the lock. Machineguns work too.

Edit: if you get too close and you're flying side to side or parallel, then try and get above them and bomb the fuck out of 'em. Fun if you get it right

Last edited by Coolbeano (2006-04-16 01:44:00)

tF-afrojap
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+124|7317|SF
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stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7190|California

tF-afrojap wrote:

BF2 - Chatter
BF2 - Help!
BF2 - Complain
BF2 - Praise
BF2 - Improvements

Ever play a game called "post in the right fucking section"? It's my favorite!
lo

well, you know the rest
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7190|California

that gives me an idea for ya afro

its ur favorite game AWESOME

HI SCORE
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tF-afrojap
Member
+124|7317|SF
that made me lol in reallife.

Ahhh. Good times.

We totally hijacked this thread, but that's what you get for posting a whine in Chatter.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7190|California

sweet.

and after that i have nothing more to say
pure_beef_69
Banned
+186|7116
Ok well first things first. Well your kind of contradicting yourself, first you say that missiles never hit anything anymore when you fire them, however you always get killed by missileS? Well i think the problem seems to be that you mite not be a good enough pilot. But i agreee with the comment on the J-10 it is annoyingly invinsible.
.ACB|_Cutthroat1
No place like 127.0.0.1
+76|7166|Gold Coast,QLD,Australia
yes pure beef, the key to flares is this, if used when missiles have been alreaddy fired it does nothing as it has alreaddy locked onto your jet and been fired (ea is in the wrong there) so as soon as you start to hear beeping flares and fly eratically in either the up or down direction
Eckzack
The east-german Fuxxer
+37|7315|Germany / Saxony
In  theese times, when every pilot gets nervous from the missiles and the lock sound, I use simply my coaxial-cannon to shoot them down.. Oldskool, but it works fine if u can aim in turns...
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7232

Just an idea to fix your missle problems....... Get out of the plane and pick up a rifle.
Sgt_Bob05
Nade Spammers Must Die
+49|7171|Australia
you must be a nub. Lock onto them wait for them to deploy flairs, witch to bomber mode, keep following them then when they level off switch back to aa mode and launch like 4 missiles as soon as lock is half way. You will kill them every time
crazyr3tard
Member
+0|7056
Maybe it has something to do with those extra dll's that mysteriously found their way into your computer.
jjrp02
Member
+18|7117|Baton Rouge, LA, USA
It DOES piss me off when I'm in an F-35 and trying to fight a J10 and come up empty handed....

but what REALLY pisses me off is trying to get a Chopper with missles....no matter how many I fire at them...they always go right through them or decide to go somewhere else...namely that friendly attack chopper that's all the way across the map from you....


but then again...it does feel good to get in a J10 and pretty much PWN the whole round....
The Soup Nazi
Member
+18|7257|North Lauderdale, FL
*sigh* 

If only more pilots would learn to use their cannons, they wouldn't have this problem.  All you have to do is get behind them with your bomb HUD, wait for them to level out, and lead over your target a bit.  Even if you don't destroy their jet, your cannon fire on their cockpit will likely "snipe" them out.

Air-to-Air missile combat is only as good as you make it (minus the J-10's amazing ability to dodge flares while flying level).  If you're right on someone's tail (I'm talking 100 meters or less), your missiles stand a greater chance of missing than if your target is 200-350 meters and not performing a hard bank at the time of lock.  The biggest hint I can give to aspiring pilots regarding A2A combat is to keep your distance with good throttle control and learn how to use your cannons while in turns effectively.

Not only do you get the benefit of a surprise attack, but you can also take solace in the notion that EA/Dice will likely never nerf the cannons.  While others complain about how innacurate A2A missiles are, you'll continue to dominate with your guns.
pure_beef_69
Banned
+186|7116

jjrp02 wrote:

It DOES piss me off when I'm in an F-35 and trying to fight a J10 and come up empty handed....

but what REALLY pisses me off is trying to get a Chopper with missles....no matter how many I fire at them...they always go right through them or decide to go somewhere else...namely that friendly attack chopper that's all the way across the map from you....


but then again...it does feel good to get in a J10 and pretty much PWN the whole round....
I totally agree on that one, i think ive destroyed like four helis with missiles thats it. And i my view distance is so pathetic i dont have the time to use my guna on them,
ComradeWho
Member
+50|7165|Southern California

E7IX3R wrote:

Ok, I've just spent a good 2 hours playing cleansweep 18 people on 64 server. Lots of times did I get behind a jet that was crawling along, fired two missiles (thats all it takes so no need to spam & this is after flares) and they both miss, despite being directly behind it with nothing to get in my way.

Two more missiles. maybe one hits..the other one misses...repeat.


This is evident in the Mec and USMC jets. J-10 however is virtually invincible. When I'm flying that, I'm looking for my next target as soon as I fire off two missiles.

Also, flares seem useless these days too. I've been trying to lose a jet dropped flares as soon as I see him release, only for loads of missiles to spam my way missing all my flares and killing me. I've seen it happen to others when I'm flying.

Sometimes I get the feeling we're back how it used to be where the missiles didnt do anything - but now it seems like the flares don't do anything either.

I'm not the best in a jet, quite frankly I don't care. It just annoys me that the missiles and flares are very inconsistant.
lol
in one paragraph you are talking about how missles are too inaccurate and about how you can't hit anything.
in the next paragraph you're talking about how you always get hit by missles and flares suck.
it sounds like you just need to practice.
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7158|UK
Maybe I do, it feels like its one of those cases where it doesnt work for me but always works for other people, against me.

I'm not a noob by no means, I have a 2.3 k/d ratio in jets, not amazing but at least its not under 1.

Usmc suck. I hate playing usmc now.
Eckzack
The east-german Fuxxer
+37|7315|Germany / Saxony

E7IX3R wrote:

Maybe I do, it feels like its one of those cases where it doesnt work for me but always works for other people, against me.

I'm not a noob by no means, I have a 2.3 k/d ratio in jets, not amazing but at least its not under 1.

Usmc suck. I hate playing usmc now.
I have a ratio over 6 and it´s still poor... 2.3 would suck ass to me...
Btw: I´m not using some joystick, yet...
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Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|7167|Germany
After playing some hours on the WakeAirShow I think that the best thing you can do is wait for the guy to drop his flares,when you get the lock keep moving so that it doesn't break off(best thing is when it points directly at the target) and fire ALL six missiles.

Even if he's dropping flares at that time,the chance of distracting 6 missiles away from the jet is really dim.

Another thing is to stay in bomb mode until you are right behind him and then switch to guns and missiles and fire away,he'll only notice a loud and constant beep followed by an instant fiery death.

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-04-17 10:06:41)

Scorpian65
Member
+14|7208
I my experiance the map has everything to do with how the missles work. For example on Gulf of Oman using either the F35 or the Mig if you get behind an enemy plane and wait for the flares to drop away before firing, then fire 3 missles its a kill every time. When I'm in the Mig and chasing an F35 I dont even wait for the kill, I fire three missles and start looking for the next target, the missles will follow and kill the F35 even if your no longer following it. However on Fushe Pass I have watched the missles literally bounce off both the J10 and the F18. If your lucky you can get one hit out of 6 missles. I have basically given up on A2A and stick with bombing ground targets. When the enemy jet decides to lock on me I just do some crazy flying and lose him then go back to bombing. On Wake its all but impossible to kill the J10 using the F35, although the F35 is just a quick snack for the J10. Also on Wake I have found a way to get away from the Essex 9 out of ten times. EA/Dice made the J10 hitbox much differently then the other planes in the game.

I fly all of the planes for all teams and it would be nice if there was some consistantcy between them.
CrazeD
Member
+368|7143|Maine

stryyker wrote:

that gives me an idea for ya afro

its ur favorite game AWESOME

HI SCORE
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LMFAO!!
BabySpinach
Phone Spammer
+207|7061|Charlottesville, Virginia, USA

E7IX3R wrote:

Ok, I've just spent a good 2 hours playing cleansweep 18 people on 64 server. Lots of times did I get behind a jet that was crawling along, fired two missiles (thats all it takes so no need to spam & this is after flares) and they both miss, despite being directly behind it with nothing to get in my way.

Two more missiles. maybe one hits..the other one misses...repeat.
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