Program on SSD, HDD spinning up :S

2009-11-17 12:04:40

#1

Microwave: _; +515|6915|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Random question / problem....

Sometimes when I open a program which is installed on my SSD it hangs, I hear one of my hard drives spin up, wait a few seconds then it instantly opens.

I have no idea why it's doing this as the program is installed on the SSD, it shouldn't affect the hard drive at all.

My OS is also stored on the SSD.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

2009-11-17 12:10:59

#2

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6048|Catherine Black

Page file?

2009-11-17 12:39:21

#3

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|6221|Places 'n such

Nod, more RAMZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! 6GB isn't enough. That or move your page file?

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

2009-11-17 12:40:26

#4

Microwave: _; +515|6915|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

What's wrong with the page file?!

2009-11-17 12:43:50

#5

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6048|Catherine Black

james@alienware wrote:
What's wrong with the page file?!

Don't quote me on this, but instead of using some of your RAM, windows loads a program that doesn't need the speed of RAM to the HDD, to save RAM space. So when you're opening up the program it's loading it from your SSD onto your HDD page file.

Although I could be completely wrong, and I probably am.

2009-11-17 12:46:56

#6

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6757

Finray wrote:
Don't quote me on this, but instead of using some of your RAM, windows loads a program that doesn't need the speed of RAM to the HDD, to save RAM space. So when you're opening up the program it's loading it from your SSD onto your HDD page file.

Although I could be completely wrong, and I probably am.

the shotgun approach to technology, i like it. Fin, you've forgotten to ask him which drive his PF is on . . .

2009-11-17 12:49:36

#7

Microwave: _; +515|6915|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Finray wrote:
james@alienware wrote:
What's wrong with the page file?!
Don't quote me on this, but instead of using some of your RAM, windows loads a program that doesn't need the speed of RAM to the HDD, to save RAM space. So when you're opening up the program it's loading it from your SSD onto your HDD page file.

Although I could be completely wrong, and I probably am.

Yeah that's kinda right.

Apart from my page file is on my SSD not my hard drive.

2009-11-17 12:52:43

#8

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6048|Catherine Black

burnzz wrote:
Finray wrote:
Don't quote me on this, but instead of using some of your RAM, windows loads a program that doesn't need the speed of RAM to the HDD, to save RAM space. So when you're opening up the program it's loading it from your SSD onto your HDD page file.

Although I could be completely wrong, and I probably am.
the shotgun approach to technology, i like it. Fin, you've forgotten to ask him which drive his PF is on . . .

Got any other theories? I'd love to hear them.

2009-11-17 12:57:48

#9

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6713|The Twilight Zone

Could you tell us what program is it?

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2009-11-17 13:05:50

#10

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6757

Finray wrote:
Got any other theories? I'd love to hear them.

apparently the page file is on the SSD. we know that, because he told us.
Sup just asked him which program it is - we'll wait for that.
so we know 1) the SATA drive spins up before a program on the SSD opens.
2) the page files on SSD
3) the OS is on the SSD

my theory? the program he used (setup.exe) is on the SATA drive.

2009-11-17 13:07:52

#11

Microwave: _; +515|6915|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

The program isn't on the hard drive! I'm not stupid! Obviously it would have to spin up if it was!

The program I'm opening is on the SSD, the page file is on the SSD, the OS is on the SSD.

2009-11-17 13:10:25

#12

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6757

where did you install said program from?

2009-11-17 13:41:38

#13

Microwave: _; +515|6915|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

From an exe saved on one of my HDD's. Does that make a difference? No program data at all is on the HDD.

2009-11-17 13:47:32

#14

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6757

sometimes it does, it is "the installation path". if it bothers you this much, it's time for regedit32 . . .

2009-11-17 15:57:00

#15

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|7002|London

.Sup wrote:
Could you tell us what program is it?

2009-11-17 21:20:35

#16

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6674|Finland

wait why do you even shut off the HDD in first place?

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2009-11-17 21:23:33

#17

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6827|NYC / Hamburg

it's better for the HDD life to just leave the HDD spun up. Only shut down the HDD on laptops where every watt counts.

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2009-11-17 21:39:39

#18

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6782|...

Run Procmon, get answers

2009-11-17 21:40:39

#19

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6827|NYC / Hamburg

jsnipy wrote:
Run Procmon, get answers

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-11-18 11:52:06

#20

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6841|SE London

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
wait why do you even shut off the HDD in first place?

Where did he say he shut off the other hard drive?

.Sup wrote:
Could you tell us what program is it?

Seems crazy that this hasn't been answered yet.

2009-11-18 11:55:11

#21

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6674|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:
Where did he say he shut off the other hard drive?

", I hear one of my hard drives spin up,"

Either one of his drives is dying or the drive was shut off.

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2009-11-18 12:00:14

#22

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6841|SE London

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Where did he say he shut off the other hard drive?
", I hear one of my hard drives spin up,"

Either one of his drives is dying or the drive was shut off.

Nonsense.

2009-11-18 12:04:27

#23

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6674|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Where did he say he shut off the other hard drive?
", I hear one of my hard drives spin up,"

Either one of his drives is dying or the drive was shut off.
Nonsense.

Nonsense? Care to explain? If HDD is powered on, it sounds like spin off and PC will seem to freeze for a little while when the drive is detected.

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2009-11-18 20:24:22

#24

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6457|Winland

Bertster7 wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Where did he say he shut off the other hard drive?
", I hear one of my hard drives spin up,"

Either one of his drives is dying or the drive was shut off.
Nonsense.

Why would that be nonsense? Windows is set to automatically shut your hard drives off after 20 minutes, you know.

It's rather redundant if they aren't noisy; a hard drive will live longer if it's on all the time rather than spinning up/shutting down ever so often.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-11-21 13:22:11

#25

Microwave: _; +515|6915|Loughborough Uni / Leeds, UK

Sorry I didn't reply sooner.

It's not a set pattern of which programs, obviously it's just when the HDD has spun down (if that's the right term).

Sometimes it does it with firefox, CCleaner, and the Intel SSD toolbox - all of which are installed on my SSD.

So it's best to keep the hard drives spinning the whole time?

How can I do that?

Last edited by james@alienware (2009-11-21 13:26:29)

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