Oh .. regarding your mk2 question. I remember snes having way worse gfx than the arcade version. It actually turned me off of MK series on consoles... Not so for the PC versions though
See the thing is, an X-Box 360 is made for games alone, but the other thing is, consols suck.
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i agree that typically consoles gfx tend to increase as they learn to max out the dev kits ..Brizzzer wrote:
Just that would not follow the console cycle, where games get more graphic over time. What you saying that they are already at their limit which is not true.
however games like oblivion or condemned have been reported to not have the steadiest of frames. also its more than safe to assume that the gpu is nowhere near as powerfull as say *since its ati* a 1900xtx (and there are current gen games that can stress that card) that there wont be quite the increase as previous consoles. these consoles are getting close to being pc's
the 360 is a great peice of machinery. they arnt really using its full potentinal. in a couple of years games will of course look better on it. but by then pc of course will have better GPU's as it stands at the moment it does have the edge on IQ from what ive seen. that will all be changing very quick though.
I look at any game with bad fram rate as the software side not the hardware(when it comes to consoles.) A great example of this is Unreal Championship for the Xbox. So I expect any vid problems with console to be software relate not hardware, especialy how simply the 360 was designed to run compaired to using an OS(Windows) to run games.
i duno tho in that context how can a game like condemned for pc or oblivion for pc or w/e tax some of the newest gpu's + processors for pc and not do the same for a lesser powered machine like 360 ?
Its all in the software. Remember the 360 does not have an OS so it has consideribly less shit running the back ground. I would assume that the only thing running other than the game is the 360 dashboard connected to live. I think thats why they choose the triple core design. So it would run simlar to the XBox with 1 process per core. With the expection of the vid core for graphics.
ok, i do games, simple fact is that the games r made on pc's so will never out do a pc because of that fact, simple as that. consoles use HD which gives it a clear pic but nvidia, ati and monitor companies are already designing HD compliant gpu's and monitors (look at pcgamer to see this) for pc's so that difference is practically gonna be gone in a short time when they realease them, ok here are the stats
xbox 360 = ati radeon 850 or nvidia 6800 on pc
ps3 = ati 9000 or ati 7800 gt (not gtx or higher) on pc
u can check this out urself by looking at the pixels, mhz of the gpu and the bndwith, this is what the consoles are equal to.
the only difference between to 2 is that right now at this moment in time the consoles have HD, pc's dont because with the clarity of LCD and the high res of graphics cards it was'nt needed, but nvidia, ati, viewsonic and del have re thought this and are now in the process are redesigning to give pc gamers HD now, it should be in a few months release so simple fact is that pcgames will always be more grapically powerful and sound wise also because pc's can do more per second than any console can ever do so console can never be as powerful as pc, pure and simple.
i am a programmer i work for infograms and do console games and pc and i know what is what so don't despute it any more tel ur friend the truth it only looks good cause of the HD but it is not as powerful and pc will have HD soon.
xbox 360 = ati radeon 850 or nvidia 6800 on pc
ps3 = ati 9000 or ati 7800 gt (not gtx or higher) on pc
u can check this out urself by looking at the pixels, mhz of the gpu and the bndwith, this is what the consoles are equal to.
the only difference between to 2 is that right now at this moment in time the consoles have HD, pc's dont because with the clarity of LCD and the high res of graphics cards it was'nt needed, but nvidia, ati, viewsonic and del have re thought this and are now in the process are redesigning to give pc gamers HD now, it should be in a few months release so simple fact is that pcgames will always be more grapically powerful and sound wise also because pc's can do more per second than any console can ever do so console can never be as powerful as pc, pure and simple.
i am a programmer i work for infograms and do console games and pc and i know what is what so don't despute it any more tel ur friend the truth it only looks good cause of the HD but it is not as powerful and pc will have HD soon.