Dragonfist028
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+2|7066
Hi by clicking on this post you are probably wanting to know how to use the medic kit "effectivly".  There have been too many times where people who use the medic kit often get killed and usually don't have a clue what they are doing.  I know there is a post about this already but I decided I go more in depth.  I will first go over the basics and work my way up.  And remember that this is all based off first hand experience.  And even though there are guides on each weapon if you look at the bf2s wiki I thought I give my opinion on what i think.  So lets begin,
Lesson 1:  Reviving
When you go to revive someone there are many methods.  In this lesson I will teach you which one is appropiate for each situation.
Okay the first thing you should always want to do is check your surroundings before going to revive somebody.  YOU SHOULD DO THIS EVERYTIME YOU REVIVE SOMEBODY.  Now if your absolutely positive that your out of danger then just go ahead and revive him.  BUT 90% of the time someone shot your fallen comrad.  And no he didn't have bad gas and passed out or have a heart attack, or a stroke.  HE GOT SHOT.  I'm am just making sure I get this through your head b/c almost everytime a inexperience medic tries to revive someone when a guy with a support gun aimes a cross-hair up your ass.  Now that you got this heres another thing you should do which is NEVER and I mean NEVER lay next to the body and revive b/c more than likely your enemy will come across you giving mouth to mouth and shoot your ass.  Here is the correct way to revive which is crouch.  Now for all those medics that like to risk their lives for another, DIVE TOWARDS YOUR COMRAD THE GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE.  Oh and for GOD SAKES don't revive someone if you know there just gonna get shot and die again.  B/c if you do that I hope the guy you "tried" to revive comes back and rips you a new hole.  Now for big secret.  There is one way that I always revive someone, which is I don't stop but instead walk across his body while I shock him.  This makes you a harder target in case there is some sniper aiming for your head.
Lesson 2:  Healing
Okay first of all there will be and always be retards that will forget your even there and almost look like there avoiding you when your trying to heal them.  This is okay,  just wait for the bastard to die then revive him and say "HA told you dick".  Or if you want teabag him and walk away.  B/c of the new patch, you can no longer jump and throw packs.  GO CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER, for all the people who complain about this.  Just get ahead of him and throw it in front of him or better yet start laying packs in places where you comrad will come back to later.  Another thing to keep note,  when you throw a pack your enemy will be able to see it whether or not its behind a wall or not thus giving away your position and possibly getting blown to pieces.  Oh and for all the inexperience players you will say "HERE GET FIRST AID" when you throw a pack thus your enemy will hear you and shoot your ass around the corner.  All I'm trying to say is be cautious and have some common sense.
Lesson 3:  OH SHIT!
Okay no matter how good of a medic you are there will be times when you are trying to revive someone and then find out someone is about to shoot you around the corner and you'll say OH SHIT!.  Taking out your weapon will cause you to lose valuable time and maybe even cost you your life.  Instead run and dive and shock his ass.  Not only did you kill him but he will also be the laughing stock for the entire round.
Lesson 4:  The G36E is your friend
Alright this goes for only people who have the G36E.  Now most of you probably know that this weapon is "THE BOMB".  Its accurate, powerful, and has a almost no recoil.  Now some of you notice that when shooting someone at a fast pace you tend to miss the more you shoot.  Now this might sound a little wierd but learn to fight recoil.  Try and steady the cross hairs when firing.  And last be fast when pulling that trigger multiple times.  If your fast at clicking and have quick reflexes,  PKM's,MG36 will stand no chance against you.
Lesson 5:  YOUR A GODDAM MEDIC
If your a medic, don't be dick go and help them by either healing them or reviving.  I am mostly talking to you medics who run right past downed comrads or run around with shock paddles waiting for your comrads to die.  This is horrible tactics and your not helping your team at all.

Well that is it for now, if you believe I missed something feel free to add-on.  If you want to critize me then be contructive not a dick bc more than likely I'll just tell you to fuck off.  And I hope this guide helps most of you newcomers to the game or just want to brush up on a few things.  If you want me to show you in game how things work my Xfire is Dragonfist028 feel free to ask.

-Dragonfist-
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|7162
I think it can be summerized easier :

1) Counter threats before reviving. Suicide medding doesn't help
2) Actually join in the battle. The role of medic isn't to just have your defib out 100% of the time.
3) Assist players when they request it, and try to have at least one medic when capping flags on foot
Dragonfist028
Member
+2|7066
Nah mine are more in depth and you didn't cover everything nah jk ya I guess if everything is "simple" in your life :p
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|7162

Dragonfist028 wrote:

Nah mine are more in depth and you didn't cover everything nah jk ya I guess if everything is "simple" in your life :p
Common sense comes naturally to me

Too many times do I see some tard reviving people that just get killed again right away, or the medic dies immediately after. Not a smart use of the kit. Plus their are the idiots that never put their defibs away and end up 1-20 at the end of the map.
Dragonfist028
Member
+2|7066
Which is exactly why I made this guide
Sniper007
Member
+1|7074
It's you're, not your.

Thanks.
[QXJZ]Capt_Kefra
Alright, you're good to go!
+124|7198|Honolulu, HI
Whenever I see any suggestions for medic, even obvious ones (i.e., check to see where the enemy is before pulling out the paddles, don't rez someone who's just going to get killed 2 seconds later), I just know no one's going to listen?  Why?  Say you're a Medic who sees that "flashing dead icon" suddenly appear over a body a few feet ahead.  If the Medic pulls out his G36E and tries to deal with the enemy infantry, he has a (roughly) 50/50 chance of getting the kill (2 points).  By then his teammate has gone from critically wounded to dead (0 points).  On the other hand he could just whip out the paddles, yell "Clear!!!" (2 points), bunnyhop away, wait for his teammate to get riddled full of bullets, and then choose to either (a) revive again (2 points) or (b) kill the infantry again (now the odds are slightly in his favor since you know where he is).

The short version: Smart medic tactics won't work because a 50/50 chance at either 2 points or a death will never get chosen over a 100% chance at getting 2 (or more) points.  Even if those points piss off some poor dead guy on his team to no end.  Sad, but true.

Don't get me wrong, I agree totally that reviving blindly is retarded, and Medics should know their role well enough to distinguish between legit revives and borderline stat padding.  I just doubt many people will live up to the role, that's all.
G-Force
Member
+1|7099
And if someone glitches and has half thier body through a wall, Dont try and revive them the game wont let you
Dragonfist028
Member
+2|7066
Thanks G-Force I completely forgot about that for that is really important. Towards Sniper007, wtf I asked for suggestions and inputs not for you to proofread.  I can't believe you made a post just for that. Towards Capt,well even though this is true your also risking your life  in a 50/50 chance.  Also with a little practice and a common sense you can prevent from these 50/50 odds from getting you.  For instance chucking a grenade at suspicous places or rolling and shooting the guy.  And I'm sure if your comrad time runs out I'm sure he'll understand.  And last you still get points either way.
Souljah
Member
+42|7138

Dragonfist028 wrote:

Thanks G-Force I completely forgot about that for that is really important. Towards Sniper007, wtf I asked for suggestions and inputs not for you to proofread.  I can't believe you made a post just for that. Towards Capt,well even though this is true your also risking your life  in a 50/50 chance.  Also with a little practice and a common sense you can prevent from these 50/50 odds from getting you.  For instance chucking a grenade at suspicous places or rolling and shooting the guy.  And I'm sure if your comrad time runs out I'm sure he'll understand.  And last you still get points either way.
the man speaks the truth, listen to him. when i play medic with my clanmates i always make sure the coast is clear before i revive them. to me 15 sec respawn time is more then enough time for me to eliminate the threath and then go to revive my team mate (unless there is like 3 or more enemies in the area). plus is better to kill the enemy instead of trying to revivie your team mate because is if you kill the enemy but dont have time to revive your partner, if you're in a squad (which everyone should be doing ) he can just spawn back by you. if you dont kill the enemy and just try and save your partner, you take the risk of both of you dying and then have to spawn somewhere which might be far away from the position you were at earlier.
Dragonfist028
Member
+2|7066
Towards Souljah, thank you for your reply.  Even though I'm not the best medic in this game I do have tips and that is the whole reason behind this guide.
skuko
Member
+5|7082
well...i started to play as a medic only a couple of days ago, didn't like the inability to deal with armor :-\

but....i found out, that i really enjoy healing, rezzing and the guns....YES, i AM a shithead, didn't unlock the G36E yet...so now its like 6k more points to do that...

anyway..back to the point....to me, the medic is THE game winner - why?

cuz when you rezz a mate, you actually save him a statistical death (since he's only wounded) and (more importantly for the team) YOU SAVE TICKETS ! (only for the newbs, not familiar with the game...)

so i hate people that use medic only cuz of the gun, makes me sick...medic is there to help the team, there is nothing better, than to run to cap a flag with two mates, wait until its clear, finish off those two asses, rezz mates, get about 10 pts in one run

edit: typo

Last edited by skuko (2006-04-07 04:23:31)

voltage
Member
+46|7310|Sweden
I want a medic to revive me everytime and are grateful for him doing it. If I'm shot again, neither me or the team have lost anything, not until I'm actually dead.

On 64 slot servers "clearing the area" often involves several enemies and vehicles which a medic can't possibly do by himself. The only thing he can do is find an opportunity where the enemies attention are elsewhere (there are usually lot of friendlies nearby as well) and then revive.
Kingdarm
Member
+0|7071
I don't know if checking the coast is clear would work. Most of the time who ever shot the guy will still be there scanning the area. I think the most important thing is to look at how far you would have to run to get back into cover. Even if a PKM is aiming at that dead guy, he needs a few seconds of response time to see you, follow you and shoot you. So if you only have a short distance to run I say go run and revive. Of course if there are like 5 PKM pointing at that guy you shouldnt run and go revive him, but if there is only 1 I say go for it. If its a tank that killed the guy, run as far away as possible...lol
Dragonfist028
Member
+2|7066
*Bump*
[QXJZ]Capt_Kefra
Alright, you're good to go!
+124|7198|Honolulu, HI
Maybe I should resurrect all of my old threads, too!  Oh wait, that would be just as bad as spamming, hint hint.
Dragonfist028
Member
+2|7066
All though what you say is true, most people on this forum are too lazy to use the search button so they only see what is on the first page.  So I just bumped it to see if I could get some more opinions about the medic kit.  I don't really think I've caused too much harm.  And really do you really have that much time to comment on such stupid things.
nodehopper
Member
+56|7102
I first off want to agree with you whole heartedly on the guide, especially for medics to realize that healing and reviving help your team to reduce the number of tickets being lost. ( X2 points for winning is the goal. Right?) Every guy you toss a medic pack to is a guy who has a much better chance of killing the next enemy he bumps into. Every revive is a ticket recovered and one less death point on your team mates stats.

The gray area is when is a revive a good thing and when will it piss off your team mate? I had an instance last night on a SF map where I saw a dead comrad in a doorway at the Chemical Weapons Factory. I lobbed a grenade down the hall and then revived him. Bam-- he was dead again. I lobbed a couple more grenades. Bam - he was again dead. SHIT! I figure this guy is getting annoyed at me. I peek around the corner and the enemy is way down the hall with the PKM  ....Brrrt.....Brrrt....Brrrt  a few blasts at him and kill him then revive my team mate one more time. Team mate runs off.....I figure he hates me and thinks I am just getting points at his expense. It was an honest attempt at neutralizing the enemy and getting a revive. 

My grenades weakend the enemy so I was able to kill him with out dying myself ( we were in enemy territory and finally took that flag).  The TEAM was saved a lost ticket. My team mate was saved a death against his stats. The only bad side is the enemy got a couple extra kills out of the deal.  Was I a jerk or was that doing the right thing? I think for the team as a whole it was the right thing.

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