Getting married was your biggest mistake, and like FFLink just said take a week away to really think about it.
How long have you been together?
Was she like this when you were dating?
Was she like this when you were dating?
I feel we need more of these examples to be able to judge the situation properlyIconic Irony wrote:
Has your girlfriend ever tried to cook on the stove with a bottle of high octane gas treatment sitting next to the burner?Finray wrote:
Examples?
Has your girlfriend gone to college for 5 years to obtain a B.A. in science only to work at a Starbucks and a Target?
Has your girlfriend's stupidity ever caused you to have to drive 500 miles through ice and snow after working a nine hour shift to fix a fuckup that would've never happened in the first place if she would have done what you said?
Has your girlfriend ever set YOU up on a threesome and then made you feel terrible for it like....every other fucking day, forever?
Has your girlfriend ever swerved across three lanes of rush hour highway traffic and slammed into the side of a car. With you in it?
Is your girlfriend a hypochondriac?
Is your girlfriend incredibly stupid? Like I mean.....REALLY DENSE?
Mine has. Getting married was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done. Period. Retarded. All me. FML.
Why would you marry somebody you wouldn't spend you life with? I thought that's what GFs were for, temporary...
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
yeah, more input please.Lucien wrote:
I feel we need more of these examples to be able to judge the situation properly
For those of you who are not married yet:
Even if you don't own shit you should draft a premarital agreement, have it reviewed by at least one lawyer and notarized. You can determine how things will be split up during a divorce. Not only could it save you a lot of money and hassle, but you will both probably end up happier. Many marriages are ended over money. Keeping separate accounts and agreeing on which bills will be paid by each party should eliminate many problems during marriage and divorce.
I look at it this way. If you can't figure out how to split things fairly before you are married, how in the hell do you think you'll do it during a divorce? Plus drafting a prenup and getting a lawyer will cost less than paying lawyers to argue everything during a divorce. If you never get divorce, great! If you do, well you have some protection to fall back on.
Even if you don't own shit you should draft a premarital agreement, have it reviewed by at least one lawyer and notarized. You can determine how things will be split up during a divorce. Not only could it save you a lot of money and hassle, but you will both probably end up happier. Many marriages are ended over money. Keeping separate accounts and agreeing on which bills will be paid by each party should eliminate many problems during marriage and divorce.
I look at it this way. If you can't figure out how to split things fairly before you are married, how in the hell do you think you'll do it during a divorce? Plus drafting a prenup and getting a lawyer will cost less than paying lawyers to argue everything during a divorce. If you never get divorce, great! If you do, well you have some protection to fall back on.
I am so doing thiswest-phoenix-az wrote:
For those of you who are not married yet:
Even if you don't own shit you should draft a premarital agreement, have it reviewed by at least one lawyer and notarized. You can determine how things will be split up during a divorce. Not only could it save you a lot of money and hassle, but you will both probably end up happier. Many marriages are ended over money. Keeping separate accounts and agreeing on which bills will be paid by each party should eliminate many problems during marriage and divorce.
I look at it this way. If you can't figure out how to split things fairly before you are married, how in the hell do you think you'll do it during a divorce? Plus drafting a prenup and getting a lawyer will cost less than paying lawyers to argue everything during a divorce. If you never get divorce, great! If you do, well you have some protection to fall back on.
15 more years! 15 more years!
I like the idea of a prenup, but it always strikes me as being a bit defeatist that the marriage will fail. Also, how do you divide your shit up? I don't want her to get my stuff, but is she entitled to it anyway?
what with a 50% rate of divorce, and the fact that the possibility will always exist, it's a good course of action.ghettoperson wrote:
I like the idea of a prenup, but it always strikes me as being a bit defeatist that the marriage will fail. Also, how do you divide your shit up? I don't want her to get my stuff, but is she entitled to it anyway?
Probably to have sex with her while the lights are on.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Why would you marry somebody you wouldn't spend you life with? I thought that's what GFs were for, temporary...
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
I thought the wedding was off?
You didn't invite me like you promised you would. You PROMISED.
You didn't invite me like you promised you would. You PROMISED.
Haha what a dumb bitch.Iconic Irony wrote:
Has your girlfriend gone to college for 5 years to obtain a B.A. in science
A dumb wife is actually pretty good. You can get away with certain things that a smart woman wouldn't let you. Plus you sorta have experiance in child care. Speaking of which you should get a pet. Maybe she'll make a better mother than she would a person.
I was kinda BANNEDFlaming_Maniac wrote:
I thought the wedding was off?
You didn't invite me like you promised you would. You PROMISED.
Oh. Yes. That.
I thought that's what most chicks at bars were for.War Man wrote:
Probably to have sex with her while the lights are on.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Why would you marry somebody you wouldn't spend you life with? I thought that's what GFs were for, temporary...
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
No, quite the opposite really.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I thought that's what most chicks at bars were for.War Man wrote:
Probably to have sex with her while the lights are on.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Why would you marry somebody you wouldn't spend you life with? I thought that's what GFs were for, temporary...
orly?Iconic Irony wrote:
No, quite the opposite really.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I thought that's what most chicks at bars were for.War Man wrote:
Probably to have sex with her while the lights are on.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
That's the typical woman.Iconic Irony wrote:
Has your girlfriend ever tried to cook on the stove with a bottle of high octane gas treatment sitting next to the burner?Finray wrote:
Examples?
Has your girlfriend gone to college for 5 years to obtain a B.A. in science only to work at a Starbucks and a Target?
Has your girlfriend's stupidity ever caused you to have to drive 500 miles through ice and snow after working a nine hour shift to fix a fuckup that would've never happened in the first place if she would have done what you said?
Has your girlfriend ever set YOU up on a threesome and then made you feel terrible for it like....every other fucking day, forever?
Has your girlfriend ever swerved across three lanes of rush hour highway traffic and slammed into the side of a car. With you in it?
Is your girlfriend a hypochondriac?
Is your girlfriend incredibly stupid? Like I mean.....REALLY DENSE?
Mine has. Getting married was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done. Period. Retarded. All me. FML.
Theres no getting around.
The aptitude of a woman does not mean a thing when it comes down to divorce. IT WILL turn out, "what can I get from you" in the end. For me, Divorce does not end after the paper is signed. I have to deal with child support every year and my ex can bump up the amount if she thinks I am earning more. My ex has admits she does get jealous and wants more money, then I tell her to fuck off and start earning money herself.
For the most part, we get along but I can tell you having an ex-wife hover over your back, eyeing the stuff you buy, checking out place you live, and the women you date is a big pain the ass. Marriage/Divorce has become a wealthfare system.
For the most part, we get along but I can tell you having an ex-wife hover over your back, eyeing the stuff you buy, checking out place you live, and the women you date is a big pain the ass. Marriage/Divorce has become a wealthfare system.
All women are a pain in the ass. Same shit different flavor. If she is hawt, just go with it, it will not get any better.
And, if you really want to get rid of her, give her everything you own but make her sign a legal document that that is all she will ever get.
Second piece; make her hate you so she wants to leave. If she thinks she loves you and you cast her out she will come after you for as much as she can legally get.
And, if you really want to get rid of her, give her everything you own but make her sign a legal document that that is all she will ever get.
Second piece; make her hate you so she wants to leave. If she thinks she loves you and you cast her out she will come after you for as much as she can legally get.
Depending on the laws where you live:ghettoperson wrote:
Also, how do you divide your shit up? I don't want her to get my stuff, but is she entitled to it anyway?
Anything owned before marriage is yours.
Anything obtained during marriage is both of yours, equally.
With a pernup, premarital agreement, etc. you can:
You can waive your right to spousal maintenance/alimony. Some states have laws regarding this and you must follow them.
With a prenup you can specify categories of items to belong to one person only. For example: computer equipment, entertainment center, vehicles, tools, firearms, jewelry, furniture, collections, appliances, animals, etc.
You can specify that each party will be solely responsible for debt from their own accounts. Credit cards, medical, loans, etc.
You can waive your right to the other parties retirement benefits, investments, etc.
You can specify how vehicles will be distributed. Each keep their daily driver, any other vehicles are sold and split, etc.
You can specify how houses and land will be split. Positive equity can be split 50/50, one has to buy the other out. You can specify a formula for splitting negative equity in properties, etc.
You can specify how a business will be split.
You don't have to own items you list. They can be future items.
You can specify a "no fault" divorce. In some places the person at fault will get less out of the divorce. Fault can be many things including: criminal, drug abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse, cheating, financial, etc. Things that are hard to prove... and during a divorce don't need to be proven to fuck you.
The list of things you can cover and separate are almost endless.
You can't specify child support and child custody in a prenup.
To do it on a budget. You can buy a guide, like this one, to draft your own agreement. You can add in your own paragraphs and cover items that may not be included in the guide. Then take it to a lawyer for review. Many states don't require that you file the prenup with a recorder. You can make, sign and notarize multiple copies. The lawyer(s) will usually want a copy of the final agreement. You can also amend the agreement later on, to add or remove items. How the amendments will be made (signed, notarized, etc.) should be specified in the original agreement.
It's really not that big of a deal and if you and your expected spouse are somewhat intelligent you should be able to draft a fair and legal prenup using a guide like the one I linked above. A court always has the option of tossing out a pernup, but that is usually done if it is completely unfair, illegal or signed too close (less than 30-days) to the marriage ceremony. Usually just the paragraphs or sections that are unfair or illegal will be removed and determined by the court. The key to drafting a good prenup is making it fair, legal and agreeable.
To the court your marriage is a contract. So why not set as many of the terms yourself and remove the government/courts from your life as much a possible? I know I don't want someone I've never met making decisions about my property or money. Usually someone gets screwed in a divorce. A prenup can make it more fair and pleasant for both parties. I don't understand why you wouldn't have a prenup, even if you don't own shit the judgements against you can last forever! Yeah, thats right, forever! Some states can require lifetime spousal maintenance/alimony. Fuck that!
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My divorce was expensive but a child was involved and a large amount of debt thanks to her shopping spree's.
If i could have done it over again, i would have just re-enlisted, broke up with her and went back to being a single Marine..
If i could have done it over again, i would have just re-enlisted, broke up with her and went back to being a single Marine..
Damn. I'm sorry to hear that. How are you just now though figuring out that she's a dumbass?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
ITT: Brad and War Man have no idea what they're talking about but do anyways.
