BF2S Forums Wow, someone tried to blow up a plane (Yes, a muslim)

JohnG@lt wrote:

The hope is that with enough pressure, they'll start policing their own. Once the UAE and Saudi Arabian princes take a hit in their pocket book they might act.

You do realise how much of the US national debt some of these nations own? You could cut to the chase by defaulting on what you owe others.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Andoura wrote:

We are living in a crazy world. Human have created forces that are stronger than us. What the fuck you want us to do. We will suffer the consequences of our actions and WE ARE. Bombs, wars, heavy machinery etc etc etc will kill us all.

Nway I suck in english so I will not start writing a 1 000 word essay you won't understand shit. We need to argue in french

The Quebecois need to join the rest of North America Learn english!

I could argue in english with you. But if i do so it will take me an hour to make it clear as I would want to. So I give up lol

You guys act like it's all Muslims

Most mainstream muslims, Sunni or Shiite, are as peaceful as you and I.  Wahhabists tend to be the ones doing these sorts of things.  So you are going to blockade the entire middle east just to punish no more then 1% of Muslims?   Do you listen to yourself?  Yeah let's cut off 1/4 of the world from the other 3/4 because some people in that 1/4 just can't play nice

JohnG@lt wrote:

Seriously, I'm not a rah rah blow em up guy in the slightest. Between this and the Fort Hood shooter this year and everything else that has happened in the past 20 years they've shown they are dangerous, can not be reasoned with and are fanatical. They serve no purpose on the face of the earth and need to be eradicated.

I see, so ~50 extremists in 20 years mount attacks and thats justification to eradicate billions?
Here's a better plan, stop messing with the ME, stop funding and protecting Israel and in ~20 years it should clear up.
Cost: Nothing
Deaths: None

Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Seriously, I'm not a rah rah blow em up guy in the slightest. Between this and the Fort Hood shooter this year and everything else that has happened in the past 20 years they've shown they are dangerous, can not be reasoned with and are fanatical. They serve no purpose on the face of the earth and need to be eradicated.

I see, so ~50 extremists in 20 years mount attacks and thats justification to eradicate billions?
Here's a better plan, stop messing with the ME, stop funding and protecting Israel and in ~20 years it should clear up.
Cost: Nothing
Deaths: None

ME just blames Israel for everything to divert their population from the real problems within their country. Tell me how much does Israel's presence messes shit up for most of the ME?

[] this much.

So why are the Islamics attacking America and its allies, and no-one else?
Hint: They don't travel half-way around the world because they 'hate freedom' or other such nonsense.

Spose you should stop White Irish from doing anything to, since we get a bomb or so found every odd day.

on that note i was held for an hour for a flight from Manchester to Newark lulz

Last edited by FatherTed (2009-12-26 01:29:02)

Cybargs wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Seriously, I'm not a rah rah blow em up guy in the slightest. Between this and the Fort Hood shooter this year and everything else that has happened in the past 20 years they've shown they are dangerous, can not be reasoned with and are fanatical. They serve no purpose on the face of the earth and need to be eradicated.

I see, so ~50 extremists in 20 years mount attacks and thats justification to eradicate billions?
Here's a better plan, stop messing with the ME, stop funding and protecting Israel and in ~20 years it should clear up.
Cost: Nothing
Deaths: None

ME just blames Israel for everything to divert their population from the real problems within their country. Tell me how much does Israel's presence messes shit up for most of the ME?

It's not necessarily in that way. The US has done quite alot of meddling in the Middle East to secure Oil and all that shit. When you add into the fact that it's a massive Israel ally, that just makes it that much worse for the US themselves in terms of being the "enemy", moreso than most other countries. Before all the Israel shit started, there was no real tension between the Muslims and the US. They were both on good terms.

You're not going to get any "solution" to the problem in the way that the Jews had a "solution", because it's not like all the Muslims are in Europe or America and have no country or army of their own. The Jews were defenceless. Hence why what happened, happened. You'd never get something like that with the Muslims, no matter how many people wish for it to. Even some sort of blockade like Galt wants, not exactly going to work in this globalised world. And the US/Western world would never do something like that, not when it constantly preaches its moral superiority over the rest of the world, both through the governments and the population themselves for the most part.

I think, at the end of the day, the only way this shit will really stop is when the oil runs out. Or the US doesn't need to care/meddle in the region because it no longer needs it. Even then, the Israel factor will still probably go on for awhile. That will probably be the main reason why the US is going to be a target for terrorism for a long time to come.

You can talk about developing the poorer Muslim countries so that there's less stupid rednecks willing to go on Jihad and all that shit, but even then you're always going to still have all that tension. This shit is going to last for a long time still.

In terms of the UK being a target of Islamic terrorism, it's probably more simple. We're not really a big Israel ally, all we need to do is distance ourselves from the US, probably grow closer to the EU. There's a much bigger chance of reconciliation between the EU/Muslim world than there is with the US.

If we didn't go to Iraq, which really pissed some people off, I don't think we'd be such a big target for Islamic extremists.

We need to just move from all this bullshit and focus towards our economy instead. Imagine how much we could have saved if we hadn't gone to those two wars. Economically, and Socially. You'd hardly have all this tension between Muslims and everyone else.

It's not like the US couldn't have done Afghanistan on its own if it really wanted to.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-12-26 07:42:45)

Poseidon wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

would be to NOT LET PEOPLE ON TERRORIST WATCH LISTS GET ON FUCKING AIRPLANES.

/thread

seriously, I don't get how someone like him could slip through security...they need face-scanners or something

But then people would bitch about big brother. You can't pick and choose. You either let people be more free and have shit like this (or worse) happen, or you amp up security measures at the risk of having the ACLU up your ass.

FatherTed wrote:

Spose you should stop White Irish from doing anything to, since we get a bomb or so found every odd day.

on that note i was held for an hour for a flight from Manchester to Newark lulz

I'm flying to Newark on Monday. Am I going to be diverted to Gitmo? What's the story with flying to the US now? What further checks/restrictions have they put in place?

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-12-26 09:17:07)

JohnG@lt wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Spose you should stop White Irish from doing anything to, since we get a bomb or so found every odd day.

on that note i was held for an hour for a flight from Manchester to Newark lulz

I'm flying to Newark on Monday. Am I going to be diverted to Gitmo?

Why Newark? I hope Jersey isn't your final destination (no pun intended).

Halifax, Nova Scotia. 7 hour stopover though so I might get the train into Penn Stn.

whats wrong with LAX?

eleven bravo wrote:

whats wrong with LAX?

They think everyone is a terrorist.