Honestly, unless it is a person first time playing Battlefield, the rank really does not define the player. I only have 15,000 global points and I own on every rank there is. People who have played longer have a good rank, thats it... Your rank is not a basis of how good you are. It's cool that you got promoted, but still that doesn't change anything. You can check out my stats if you like, but you have to remember I am only just getting over my initial phase of playing BF2. So I am just not getting my ratios up. Just thought I would point out that rank is nothing more than how long you have played. So it doesn't really deserve respect. If a person played for a long time, then they have a high rank. Unless that person has expert in all the medals, then they deserve respect.
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I've done much better than other higher ranks, I don't respect higher ranks, but if they're good I respect em.
I don't pay attention to rank unless some particular action stands out. For example, if I see a silver bar standing in front of a tank when someone tries to drive off, I think to myself, "that's one high-ranking asshole!" The most the ranks really mean to me is pretty much that the higher, the rank, the more time that person has wasted playing a game. I like to play, don't get me wrong, but some folks spend far too much time playing this game. Hell, I've spent too much time playing this game, and I've 'only' got 200 or so hours in it (started late Oct).
At first I thought the ranking system was the coolest thing, but the more I've played, the more I've realized that it is just a system that encourages poor teamwork. Far too many people will break the teamwork mindset to whore for a badge, I've even done it myself. It's hard to fight for the team when you're trying your best to get the explosive or knife badge or some such. I spent far too much time as a lone wolf getting badges and such before I realized I wasn't having as much fun as I would just playing for the team win. These days, I spent a lot more time picking off the sneaky guys trying to cap flags than I do jumping in the middle of a major firefight. It's just more fun, and probably helps the team a lot more when I stop a guy from giving his team a spawn point with a tank in the middle of the freaking map.
At first I thought the ranking system was the coolest thing, but the more I've played, the more I've realized that it is just a system that encourages poor teamwork. Far too many people will break the teamwork mindset to whore for a badge, I've even done it myself. It's hard to fight for the team when you're trying your best to get the explosive or knife badge or some such. I spent far too much time as a lone wolf getting badges and such before I realized I wasn't having as much fun as I would just playing for the team win. These days, I spent a lot more time picking off the sneaky guys trying to cap flags than I do jumping in the middle of a major firefight. It's just more fun, and probably helps the team a lot more when I stop a guy from giving his team a spawn point with a tank in the middle of the freaking map.
I only fly or drive with anyone above staff.
That is just your opinion though...games should be fun, but games are also a main source of competition amongst young males...every guy has aggression and competition to vent somehow. Be glad its not pistols at dawn, but instead pistols in BF2 (which barely hurt lol). Not all people play for only fun, the amount of competition and testosterone you see in virtually every game that keeps score should clue you in to that fact.Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:
I am constantly seeing this thinking:
"I let someone play with me until I see they suck."
"If they suck, I will kill them next time they want to play with me."
"They are cool with me until they show that they have no skill."
Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.
Whatever happened to people playing just for FUN?! Why must everyone have a level of skill to your liking for him or her to be deemed worthy of being in your magnificent presence?
Complete and total bullshit.
Some people, like me, could not possibly care less about Rank or stats. Gaming for me is a form of escapism—it always has been like this.
I never pay attention to another’s Rank, as it means nothing to me. You know who gets my attention in games? The person that laughs while playing whether he is winning or losing, killing or being killed. THAT is who I consider cool. THAT is whom I choose to play with while gaming.
This is from personal experience, and I don't mean to offend any new players, but I generally have more confidence flying/gunning in a chopper with someone of a higher rank. Higher rank = more time in game = more experienced player.
Experienced doesn't always mean skilled, however, I've had corporals and lance corporals who were decent pilots/gunners and understood the mechanics of flying and also were competent with the TV missile.
Experienced doesn't always mean skilled, however, I've had corporals and lance corporals who were decent pilots/gunners and understood the mechanics of flying and also were competent with the TV missile.
I don't count on anyone below 20,000 to do anything really, besides get themselves killed and waste our vehicles.
Sorry to say this, but I tend to agree. I don't give anyone else besides a staff sgt and above a chance to pilot/copilot UNLESS he's already proven himself. Hard to, with me giving him almost no chance but yeah. Rank is merely a badge of confidence. If you hop into a heli with a 1st Sgt, you KNOW he's got some idea of what he's doing, not just stupidly fiddling with the controls.VeNg3nCe^ wrote:
I don't count on anyone below 20,000 to do anything really, besides get themselves killed and waste our vehicles.
TKing, being a smacktard is a different thing all together. Ranking doesn't stem from it.
Nah i don't exactly care what rank cuz im a low rank but i got better stats than most of the ppl out there I give everyone respect unless they r stupid tkers or stats padding or something really annoying and dumb.
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Last edited by A.Frade (2006-03-17 17:40:34)
Yeah. That's because you play only one map.A.Frade wrote:
Nah i don't exactly care what rank cuz im a low rank but i got better stats than most of the ppl out there .
No I just need to get some points quickly then i can acutally be commander and do other shit plus i need to upgrade my computer i get like thousands of artifacts!
I must agree. Being a First Sergeant is when you get 'pestered' with invites...BF2Craglyeye wrote:
Taking out a private is going to be hell of alot easier than a 2nd lt.[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:
The funniest thing I heard in voice from a guy in my squad talking about an enemy player... "OMG that guys got an eagle above his head. Everyone run away!!" and he was serious. Later in the game, "that eagle dude is back I'm running!"
I never laughed so hard in BF2 because I know why people think like that, you see a high rank symbol on the target you're aiming for and you spend a millisecond more than usual thinking about whether or not you're going to win that fight, but if you see a private running around you will expose yourself much more trying to take that low rank noob out.
People may not respect ranks on their own team, but higher ranks on the other team have two effects: some people run away, or run away and try to get a better angle on a higher rank instead of engaging directly. The other effect is when you see a high rank, you try even harder to kill that bastard, because nothing is more satisfying then killing someone higher up the ladder then you are.
Everyone picks on privates though.
I have however i have noticed an increase in Squad invites since i became 1st Sarge.
I do try to respect players with officer ranks in the servers... and I hope that I am respected too... 'cause usually 90% of the people in the server are of ranks lower thatn mine.
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LOL. I've been playing this game for quite some time now, been a First Sergeant for some time now, and have had many squad invites for quite some time now. Funny thing is: I've never really considered how or why squad invites occur. I might just have to figure this out...TheDarkRaven wrote:
I must agree. Being a First Sergeant is when you get 'pestered' with invites...BF2Craglyeye wrote:
Taking out a private is going to be hell of alot easier than a 2nd lt.[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:
The funniest thing I heard in voice from a guy in my squad talking about an enemy player... "OMG that guys got an eagle above his head. Everyone run away!!" and he was serious. Later in the game, "that eagle dude is back I'm running!"
I never laughed so hard in BF2 because I know why people think like that, you see a high rank symbol on the target you're aiming for and you spend a millisecond more than usual thinking about whether or not you're going to win that fight, but if you see a private running around you will expose yourself much more trying to take that low rank noob out.
People may not respect ranks on their own team, but higher ranks on the other team have two effects: some people run away, or run away and try to get a better angle on a higher rank instead of engaging directly. The other effect is when you see a high rank, you try even harder to kill that bastard, because nothing is more satisfying then killing someone higher up the ladder then you are.
Everyone picks on privates though.
I have however i have noticed an increase in Squad invites since i became 1st Sarge.
Anyways, I think First Sergeants and Sergeant Majors gain attention because of the unusual requirements of being at least halfway experienced with just about every position or piece of equipment in the game. After that, every Master Gunnery Sergeant or Sergeant Major moves up to a Butter Bar, despite whatever badges they possess.
That aside, just about anyone of Master Sergeant/First Sergeant rank or higher has most likely learned the little nuances in the game to be at least an effective member of the team. Are there brainfart moments, even for the average colonel? Sure. However, unless they garnered their rank by some illegitimate means, chances are that they're gonna play a decent role for the team, one way or the other.
To focus a bit more on this...[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:
The funniest thing I heard in voice from a guy in my squad talking about an enemy player... "OMG that guys got an eagle above his head. Everyone run away!!" and he was serious. Later in the game, "that eagle dude is back I'm running!
I never laughed so hard in BF2 because I know why people think like that, you see a high rank symbol on the target you're aiming for and you spend a millisecond more than usual thinking about whether or not you're going to win that fight, but if you see a private running around you will expose yourself much more trying to take that low rank noob out.
People may not respect ranks on their own team, but higher ranks on the other team have two effects: some people run away, or run away and try to get a better angle on a higher rank instead of engaging directly. The other effect is when you see a high rank, you try even harder to kill that bastard, because nothing is more satisfying then killing someone higher up the ladder then you are.
I've gotta agree with your last paragraph. Personally, I typically don't take rank as first value on skill level.
For example:
Most of my time has been spent on the ground, hoofing it from one flag to another. In a typical infantry skirmish, I fair quite well, even against the highest colonels. However, a couple of days ago, I ran into a captain, in one of our jet hangars, that I spanked in a gun battle. Little did I know that the reason that he was in our jet hangar was, to not only steal our jet, but spank us in air-to-air combat with our own jets. Needless to say, after the 5th or 6th smoking jet ruin, I accepted my lower place on the Top Gun food chain, and stayed the hell away from a jet for more favorable fighting.
The same can be said for those people who've made their scores through armor, helicopters, or even commanders. Just because a colonel earned his rank by commanding, you may very well be able to smack him down in your main battle tank. However, he's probably proved his usefulness to the team not by his armored combat ability, but the fact that he just spotted you out to his team, sent two APCs and a MBT to squash you, and dropped a supply box to fix whatever scratches you managed to pull on the armored unit he sent to kill you.
Even in this game, players tend to focus on something that they enjoy doing, and are good at, no matter if they've got all their expert badges. Heck, I'd bet that at least half of those expert badges are gained through tank/plane/helicopter/commander-whoring, or "high-point servers" anyways (let alone those bastard stat-padders! ).
How a player conducts himself/herself(Citizen might be in the server) means loads more to me than the rank. Teamwork and skill are more useful than the ability to gain lots of points.
when i went to play to moders ghost town there was a guy "blackflower77" who called me a noob because i 'm lower rank than him
and he only wants to fly the chopper with high rankers like him
and he only wants to fly the chopper with high rankers like him
This is so true...MEC especially sucks ass. I just finally got the SCAR-L, and I feel its the best gun in the game. It really does make a huge difference.cheshiremoe wrote:
I think lower rank does matter because of the unlocks. As I think all of the MEC base guns bite, going against a private is diffent than going against a first Sgt. because the later will be using a better gun.
rank is now to me = to shit and more bullshit i can tell if a player is high rankd they waste their lives..........BTW my account is a corpreal
Might be. If anything, I tend to let anyone else drive a tank if I'm an engineer; I'm one of those rare "support your team" types. Chances are, you'll never see one of those in your entire life.
Joking aside, rank tends to mean how many points you have, not necessarily how good you are. I met some really rude [SoF] clan member who was a second lieutenant and called everyone elses' clans noobs, and all he did was bunnyhop and noob tube (which I'm still trying to figure out; how the hell did he fire in midair?). So those higher ranked people you see might just be those people who stat whore camp the last spawn on maps and don't try to cap the flag.
On one server I frequent, there's a colonel (a mighty good one). If anything, his rank signifies his skill ingame, as he works very well as a team player and is a good anti-tank junkie.
OFF TOPIC: The last time I started a thread like this, I got flamed. I'm glad this guy didn't get the smoking gun.
And I noticed the only two classes ever played for teamplay purposes are Engineer (which I love doing) and Anti-Tank (which of course takes pressure off the infantry). Engineers are underplayed because they get less points repair-wise than every other class gets with their supportive roles. Anti-Tank is perhaps better in usage, but most would prefer to play as something else, as DICE decided that blowing up a big-ass hulking object of doom was worth one kill any way you slice it (which I hope is fixed next update, along with the underpaid peasant Engineers). Sure, all other classes could be used for support, but I noticed that these are the only true ones that can be played without the principle of "KILL KILL KILL POINTS POINTS POINTS MORRREEEEEEE POINNTTSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" going through their heads. Sure, I love getting points and ranking up, but the team I'm on and the amount of fun everyone on it is my first priority. Cheers, see you on the battlefield!
- 0mikr0n, Certified MP7-toting badass First Sergeant Engineer.
Joking aside, rank tends to mean how many points you have, not necessarily how good you are. I met some really rude [SoF] clan member who was a second lieutenant and called everyone elses' clans noobs, and all he did was bunnyhop and noob tube (which I'm still trying to figure out; how the hell did he fire in midair?). So those higher ranked people you see might just be those people who stat whore camp the last spawn on maps and don't try to cap the flag.
On one server I frequent, there's a colonel (a mighty good one). If anything, his rank signifies his skill ingame, as he works very well as a team player and is a good anti-tank junkie.
OFF TOPIC: The last time I started a thread like this, I got flamed. I'm glad this guy didn't get the smoking gun.
And I noticed the only two classes ever played for teamplay purposes are Engineer (which I love doing) and Anti-Tank (which of course takes pressure off the infantry). Engineers are underplayed because they get less points repair-wise than every other class gets with their supportive roles. Anti-Tank is perhaps better in usage, but most would prefer to play as something else, as DICE decided that blowing up a big-ass hulking object of doom was worth one kill any way you slice it (which I hope is fixed next update, along with the underpaid peasant Engineers). Sure, all other classes could be used for support, but I noticed that these are the only true ones that can be played without the principle of "KILL KILL KILL POINTS POINTS POINTS MORRREEEEEEE POINNTTSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" going through their heads. Sure, I love getting points and ranking up, but the team I'm on and the amount of fun everyone on it is my first priority. Cheers, see you on the battlefield!
- 0mikr0n, Certified MP7-toting badass First Sergeant Engineer.
I respect every player. It doesn't matter how many points; it matters how much skill player has.
Don"t you know any one on a lower rank is a noob and anyone on a higher rank is hacking
How people get into a role is really the key bit. On servers I usually hit there are a couple of 1st lieutenants who treat the attack choppers like a natural extension of the body - can hit a moving jet with a missle, etc. But put them in ground pound mode and they can't hit shit with a rifle. Or a sergeant major I have played with a dozen times who has a KD ratio of about 0.6, but is particularly selfless about acting as a squad leader spawn point, organises squads well, listens to the commander and is an awesome force commander if he ever gets the seat. For that I have respect, even though he gets pwnt in most 1-on-1 combats.
While I will probably not jump into a 6man squad with the pilots, I have respect for their skill with the chopper and damn well want them in the air above me providing cover fire.
Personally I give the most respect to those who are trying to master all aspects of the infantry battlefield - someone that is fixing tanks, defending/capping flags, using all the class kits, supporting teammates, working with their squad. Tankwhoring is well and good, but the guy who is popping up, using cover, and drilling the tank on foot gets the respekt.
While I will probably not jump into a 6man squad with the pilots, I have respect for their skill with the chopper and damn well want them in the air above me providing cover fire.
Personally I give the most respect to those who are trying to master all aspects of the infantry battlefield - someone that is fixing tanks, defending/capping flags, using all the class kits, supporting teammates, working with their squad. Tankwhoring is well and good, but the guy who is popping up, using cover, and drilling the tank on foot gets the respekt.
if they have a positive score 2 minutes into the round i trust them with my life
Dead true. Fucking hax0rs...Mortifed_Kangaroo wrote:
Don"t you know any one on a lower rank is a noob and anyone on a higher rank is hacking
I really hope that was a joke. If not, hope never to see you on the battlefield, mate.Mortifed_Kangaroo wrote:
Don"t you know any one on a lower rank is a noob and anyone on a higher rank is hacking
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