nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6739|New Haven, CT

JohnG@lt wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

War Man wrote:


'Course not but stop spoiling the moment
and what would a republican winning a seat in massachusetts benefit a 15 year old from wisconsin?

absolutely nothing
Wtf does a rich kid from Long Island care about health care legislation?
He likes to think he is 15 years more mature than he really is.
Benzin
Member
+576|6413
I don't understand why America is so absolutely against a national healthcare system. When you look at the criminal state of the insurance industry, you'd think that people would be begging for assistance.

This is just one more reason for me to never return to the USA on a permanent basis...

Last edited by CapnNismo (2010-01-19 23:30:54)

11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5652|Cleveland, Ohio

CapnNismo wrote:

I don't understand why America is so absolutely against a national healthcare system....
maybe because transferring from one crook to another isnt really the answer?  or maybe because englands NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world isnt the best idea either?  dunno.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7243
Our Government is big enough as it is.
Benzin
Member
+576|6413
Well then here's a thought: Trim the fat. But oh wait, when you look at the majority of the American population, they can't even trim the fat off their own bodies - how can they ever expect them to fix their own government when they can't even fix themselves?

Europe > USA

The USA is practically a second-world country when you look at the big picture.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5652|Cleveland, Ohio

CapnNismo wrote:

Well then here's a thought: Trim the fat. But oh wait, when you look at the majority of the American population, they can't even trim the fat off their own bodies - how can they ever expect them to fix their own government when they can't even fix themselves?

Europe > USA

The USA is practically a second-world country when you look at the big picture.
thats intelligent.  well done.
Benzin
Member
+576|6413

11 Bravo wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

I don't understand why America is so absolutely against a national healthcare system....
maybe because transferring from one crook to another isnt really the answer?  or maybe because englands NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world isnt the best idea either?  dunno.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 050197.ece

That article is rather old, as is possibly your information, but it says that 84% of the workforce is actually directly involved with patient care and not filled with bureaucrats. Not too shabby for a little island nation, hm?

http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2 … loyers.htm --- England's NHS is no where on that list, and it's from July 2009.

Point of this post is this: Numbers can be made to say anything you want them to say. An old accountant phrase, "What's 2+2? Anything you want it to be!" Never believe statistics outright until you've dug a bit through the facts to see what the numbers are telling you.

Another one. http://www.reliableplant.com/Read/5036/ … oyer-world -- that's also from within the last year. Love Google's News filters...

Last edited by CapnNismo (2010-01-19 23:53:42)

11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5652|Cleveland, Ohio

CapnNismo wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

I don't understand why America is so absolutely against a national healthcare system....
maybe because transferring from one crook to another isnt really the answer?  or maybe because englands NHS is the 3rd largest employer in the world isnt the best idea either?  dunno.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 050197.ece

That article is rather old, as is possibly your information, but it says that 84% of the workforce is actually directly involved with patient care and not filled with bureaucrats. Not too shabby for a little island nation, hm?

http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2 … loyers.htm --- England's NHS is no where on that list, and it's from July 2009.

Point of this post is this: Numbers can be made to say anything you want them to say. An old accountant phrase, "What's 2+2? Anything you want it to be!" Never believe statistics outright until you've dug a bit through the facts to see what the numbers are telling you.
nope.  the size of the NHS industry is massive.  with that size they should be first in every category.  they are not.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 050197.ece

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-01-19 23:56:52)

Benzin
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Keyword there, chief: INDUSTRY. Industry is not a company, but rather a group of companies and individuals all working in same or related fields.

11 Bravo wrote:

nope.  the size of the NHS industry is massive.  with that size they should be first in every category.  they are not.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 050197.ece
I posted that same article in the post you quoted, you dolt. Try reading my posts and looking at my information I am presenting and THEN respond.

Last edited by CapnNismo (2010-01-19 23:58:06)

11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5652|Cleveland, Ohio

CapnNismo wrote:

Keyword there, chief: INDUSTRY. Industry is not a company, but rather a group of companies and individuals all working in same or related fields.

11 Bravo wrote:

nope.  the size of the NHS industry is massive.  with that size they should be first in every category.  they are not.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 050197.ece
I posted that same article in the post you quoted, you dolt. Try reading my posts and looking at my information I am presenting and THEN respond.
Since 1997, the number of NHS staff has risen by nearly 230,000, with a record 59,000 people — enough to fill Old Trafford football stadium — joining last year alone.

According to the latest workforce census, the NHS employs 386,400 nurses — matching the entire population of Edinburgh — 109,000 doctors and 122,100 scientists and other therapists.

An extra 18,800 nurses were employed in 2003, up 5.1 per cent on the previous year, and there were 5,600 more doctors — an increase of 5.5 per cent. Although the number of managers rose by a relatively modest 3,000, this amounted to a 9.4 per cent increase in a year — almost double the growth rate in nurses’ numbers.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5652|Cleveland, Ohio

CapnNismo wrote:

I posted that same article in the post you quoted, you dolt. Try reading my posts and looking at my information I am presenting and THEN respond.
yes i know.  you gleam what you want, so do i.  no need to name call.

when the entire "industry" is paid for by the tax payer, it is really a company.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-01-20 00:04:52)

Benzin
Member
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You need to work on your understanding of what a company is...

All you did it in your last post was copy and paste text directly out of an article - that's almost 6 years old.

Last edited by CapnNismo (2010-01-20 01:08:52)

1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7088|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
I saw something on the news this morning about this Scott Brown fella.  Who was the big titted Brunette stood behind him about 6ft tall.  Is that Daddies lil girl?  Im gonna fuck her up the ass if it is. She's lush and looks like she goes like a train, dirty lil cow.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7131

1927 wrote:

I saw something on the news this morning about this Scott Brown fella.  Who was the big titted Brunette stood behind him about 6ft tall.  Is that Daddies lil girl?  Im gonna fuck her up the ass if it is. She's lush and looks like she goes like a train, dirty lil cow.
hey Matt... i'm not sure... are you saying you like her?           lol
she was an American idol contestant

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/bre … 81750.html
Love is the answer
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7088|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Catbox wrote:

1927 wrote:

I saw something on the news this morning about this Scott Brown fella.  Who was the big titted Brunette stood behind him about 6ft tall.  Is that Daddies lil girl?  Im gonna fuck her up the ass if it is. She's lush and looks like she goes like a train, dirty lil cow.
hey Matt... i'm not sure... are you saying you like her?           lol
she was an American idol contestant

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/bre … 81750.html
Yeah I am, well was

https://www.americanidol.com/archive/contestants/season5/i/f/ayla_brown.jpg

Perhaps she's had her tits done?
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7131
Their Dad said they are available in his acceptance speech... you could win her heart and be famous... lol
Love is the answer
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7088|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Catbox wrote:

Their Dad said they are available in his acceptance speech... you could win her heart and be famous... lol
Well Id prefer if I took her Brown Wings rather than her heart.  No bigger party pooper than 'I fucked ya lil girl anally'.

Anyone ever says that to me I'll kill 'em.  Mr Brown probably feels the same mind.
mkxiii
online bf2s mek evasion
+509|6651|Uk
i think everyone in UK should do the voting for US and vice versa.

then we would see how much the majority of each country hate the other.

no doubt we'd end up with either the BNP or MRLP or whatever the fuck they are called
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7088|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
Id be a fucking cracking Prime Minister me and I aint fucking joking.  Im as serious as cancer when I tell you rhytm is a dancer.
mkxiii
online bf2s mek evasion
+509|6651|Uk

1927 wrote:

Id be a fucking cracking Prime Minister me and I aint fucking joking.  Im as serious as cancer when I tell you rhytm is a dancer.
You've got my vote!

(I'm very easily swayed)
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7088|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

mkxiii wrote:

1927 wrote:

Id be a fucking cracking Prime Minister me and I aint fucking joking.  Im as serious as cancer when I tell you rhytm is a dancer.
You've got my vote!

(I'm very easily swayed)
Thanks.

But serisouly think about it.  Im normal, I havent been to Eton, I take home £250 a week working for myself have done for 17 years.  I know what its like to rob Peter to pay Paul or however it goes.  My town; like most; has its council estates and those people are even worse off than me.

The PM has advisors like I would have, they run the country, the top fella just takes the credit or the stick.  My decision making is pretty spot on tbh.  I have said for 10 years Id be pretty fucking good at it and it wouldnt change me.  Thats why they could never have me.
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6606|Roma
IMO America voted in Obama for change, he offers it, they don't like it. They are selfish and paranoid to dismiss it as 'Russian socialism'.
But I guess Capitalism is the American way. 
I just hope him losing this seat doesn't influence any other important globally-affecting bills he has to put through.
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NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6756|Atlanta, Georgia

CapnNismo wrote:

Well then here's a thought: Trim the fat. But oh wait, when you look at the majority of the American population, they can't even trim the fat off their own bodies - how can they ever expect them to fix their own government when they can't even fix themselves?

Europe > USA

The USA is practically a second-world country when you look at the big picture.
You try to show how smart you are by cracking a joke at how fat the US is....? Alright. Cool.
Benzin
Member
+576|6413

PrivateVendetta wrote:

IMO America voted in Obama for change, he offers it, they don't like it. They are selfish and paranoid to dismiss it as 'Russian socialism'.
But I guess Capitalism is the American way. 
I just hope him losing this seat doesn't influence any other important globally-affecting bills he has to put through.
I couldn't agree more. Capitalism can still thrive and grow with a national health system. Hell, look at Germany and Austria: We have both! A private insurance industry for those that want to pay for it and then a public one that pretty much every Joe (not sure about Germany) uses and the quality of life in both countries is outstandingly good - and Germany has the largest economy on the entire European continent, iirc. Some of the largest companies in the world all are based in Germany (Siemens is one that jumps to mind), so clearly capitalism is thriving there.
Benzin
Member
+576|6413

NeXuS wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Well then here's a thought: Trim the fat. But oh wait, when you look at the majority of the American population, they can't even trim the fat off their own bodies - how can they ever expect them to fix their own government when they can't even fix themselves?

Europe > USA

The USA is practically a second-world country when you look at the big picture.
You try to show how smart you are by cracking a joke at how fat the US is....? Alright. Cool.
If you want to see one of my serious and intelligent posts, go read some of the stuff that I post in DST. This is EE - this is where I post when I'm high and/or looking for entertainment. The Internet is NOT serious business, my friend.

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