Still wandering across the globe, wanting but unable to settle down.
m8 he makes seven figures.burnzz wrote:
eh? i make six figures, i have an eight inch tongue and can breath out my ears. . .eleven bravo wrote:
better off than all you jokers, like right now.
@macbeth, he was at santa clara IIRC.
Like a bawsburnzz wrote:
eh? i make six figures, i have an eight inch tongue and can breath out my ears. . .eleven bravo wrote:
better off than all you jokers, like right now.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
It's because there are lots of ghettos as well. A lot of Washington DC has been gentrified, but in a way that just quickly jacks up the land value and kicks out the current residents. They need somewhere to move, and the suburbs are cheaper than the city (in general), so they move to PG County which is a lot cheaper than Montgomery, Fairfax and Arlington counties. Poverty and crime pretty much go hand-in-hand.Macbeth wrote:
I don't understand why all the crime though. It has a pretty high median income and is the highest median income for a place with an African American majority.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Meh. It's all a suburban area. And yeah areas like Upper Marlboro and Bowie are pretty. The problem is there's nothing in PG County. My university is there and asides from some bars, a few chain restaurants and a few independent gems (and plenty of stinkers) there isn't jack shit nearby. It makes me thankful that I'm close to home, I can just hop on the Metro and go do something.Macbeth wrote:
One of my cousins is a Sargent in the county police there, his son is a city officer.
Visited once, we were in the nice suburban area. It's alright.
But yeah there's a crime problem in the county. One of the big malls (if not the only one, can't remember) has a very strict curfew, something like 9PM. After that if you're under 18 you can't be there without a parent. Because all the teens were starting fights with each other and just being morons (like in the video).
Maybe the kids just need something to do.
BTW you never mentioned why you transferred out of UCLA, what happened?
Look at it this way: Montgomery County, MD is one of the richest counties in the US. Yet there are lots of poor areas. It's just that the rich people in these areas are very very rich, so it sort of "outdoes" the poverty.
And yeah Androo is right it was Santa Clara. I transferred for a lot of reasons tbh... it wasn't the atmosphere for me, didn't have the stuff I wanted to study, and my dad's been a bit more financially strapped than usual so I figured (in addition to the fact I wasn't happy there) I would save him some handsome money.
edit: And yeah the kids need something to do / parents who care.
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I spent a good portion of my childhood being rich. From about the age I was 7 when my Dad's business skyrocketed to 14 when I moved back to live with my mom. It's not fulfilling.JohnG@lt wrote:
I guess making money isn't high on your list of post-grad things to doPoseidon wrote:
And that's why I'm going to Pace With a $68,000 scholarship nonetheless! And since with the divorce agreement with my mother, my father has to pay up to the cost of a state school per year (about $20k), I'm actually looking at having to pay less than the cost of going somewhere like Stony Brook. I live in Stony Brook as I've probably mentioned to you before, so I'd prefer to branch out somewhere else. I love this town, but I need to get away - hence Pace.JohnG@lt wrote:
Well, if you're anything like a normal person you'll change your mind twenty times on what you want your major to be. My advice is to go to a bigger school like Stony Brook where you have a lot of options and to not decide on a major until the start of your junior year, even if this means piling up credits to catch up in the major you pick. A small school like John Jay just limits your options and you'll more than likely end up transferring elsewhere if you decide it's not your thing.
My current backup majors are Film Studies, Journalism (always wanted to be a game reviewer, anyone who went to Trackr would've known that), and Communication Studies.
I love to act like an ass here but I really do have quite a serious tone when it comes to my education.
I want something that gives me a guiding in life and not just a steady paycheck. I see teachers who say how they hate their job to death and honestly... I just don't fucking get it. How can you spend 40 fucking years in a career that you HATE? Sure, every job has it's ups and downs... but when it's a near constant down, it's just not worth the money anymore. I'd rather spend a few years in a down looking for a job I love than spend 40 years in a medium down earning a constant paycheck.
Yeah but you're talking about jobs that earn $30k a year. Construction workers make more.Poseidon wrote:
I spent a good portion of my childhood being rich. From about the age I was 7 when my Dad's business skyrocketed to 14 when I moved back to live with my mom. It's not fulfilling.JohnG@lt wrote:
I guess making money isn't high on your list of post-grad things to doPoseidon wrote:
And that's why I'm going to Pace With a $68,000 scholarship nonetheless! And since with the divorce agreement with my mother, my father has to pay up to the cost of a state school per year (about $20k), I'm actually looking at having to pay less than the cost of going somewhere like Stony Brook. I live in Stony Brook as I've probably mentioned to you before, so I'd prefer to branch out somewhere else. I love this town, but I need to get away - hence Pace.
My current backup majors are Film Studies, Journalism (always wanted to be a game reviewer, anyone who went to Trackr would've known that), and Communication Studies.
I love to act like an ass here but I really do have quite a serious tone when it comes to my education.
I want something that gives me a guiding in life and not just a steady paycheck. I see teachers who say how they hate their job to death and honestly... I just don't fucking get it. How can you spend 40 fucking years in a career that you HATE? Sure, every job has it's ups and downs... but when it's a near constant down, it's just not worth the money anymore. I'd rather spend a few years in a down looking for a job I love than spend 40 years in a medium down earning a constant paycheck.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Salary for the SCPD with 5 years of service... over $97K. And that's base!JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah but you're talking about jobs that earn $30k a year. Construction workers make more.Poseidon wrote:
I spent a good portion of my childhood being rich. From about the age I was 7 when my Dad's business skyrocketed to 14 when I moved back to live with my mom. It's not fulfilling.JohnG@lt wrote:
I guess making money isn't high on your list of post-grad things to do
I want something that gives me a guiding in life and not just a steady paycheck. I see teachers who say how they hate their job to death and honestly... I just don't fucking get it. How can you spend 40 fucking years in a career that you HATE? Sure, every job has it's ups and downs... but when it's a near constant down, it's just not worth the money anymore. I'd rather spend a few years in a down looking for a job I love than spend 40 years in a medium down earning a constant paycheck.
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/police/recruitment.htm
I mean shit, even ATC doesn't get that high after 5 years.
Sure, but look at the number of recruits that line up for ever class and then look at the number of active duty officers. Even the NYPD with their crap wages has about 100 people lining up for every slot that opens in the police academy.Poseidon wrote:
Salary for the SCPD with 5 years of service... over $97K. And that's base!JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah but you're talking about jobs that earn $30k a year. Construction workers make more.Poseidon wrote:
I spent a good portion of my childhood being rich. From about the age I was 7 when my Dad's business skyrocketed to 14 when I moved back to live with my mom. It's not fulfilling.
I want something that gives me a guiding in life and not just a steady paycheck. I see teachers who say how they hate their job to death and honestly... I just don't fucking get it. How can you spend 40 fucking years in a career that you HATE? Sure, every job has it's ups and downs... but when it's a near constant down, it's just not worth the money anymore. I'd rather spend a few years in a down looking for a job I love than spend 40 years in a medium down earning a constant paycheck.
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/police/recruitment.htm
I mean shit, even ATC doesn't get that high after 5 years.
Those Suffolk cops and their union are about to get assraped too because NY is on the edge of bankruptcy. If NY goes under, expect serious shockwaves to ripple across all the counties as well.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
John thinks 200K/year is povertyPoseidon wrote:
Salary for the SCPD with 5 years of service... over $97K. And that's base!JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah but you're talking about jobs that earn $30k a year. Construction workers make more.Poseidon wrote:
I spent a good portion of my childhood being rich. From about the age I was 7 when my Dad's business skyrocketed to 14 when I moved back to live with my mom. It's not fulfilling.
I want something that gives me a guiding in life and not just a steady paycheck. I see teachers who say how they hate their job to death and honestly... I just don't fucking get it. How can you spend 40 fucking years in a career that you HATE? Sure, every job has it's ups and downs... but when it's a near constant down, it's just not worth the money anymore. I'd rather spend a few years in a down looking for a job I love than spend 40 years in a medium down earning a constant paycheck.
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/police/recruitment.htm
I mean shit, even ATC doesn't get that high after 5 years.
But yeah, law enforcement pay really isn't awful. You won't live in a mansion and you probably won't drive a BMW (at least not a high-end one) but some people don't care about that. Sure I'd love to live in a huge house with a Lamborghini and a giant pool and all that, but I'd be just as happy with a humble abode that's enough for me, a wife and up to two kids and a dog. Have a pretty decent car and TV and cell phone. Hopefully be able to squirrel away enough savings to pay for at least part of the kids' college.
And I really don't want a typical 9-5 job where I know what I'm gonna be doing the next day/week/month/year/lifetime.
Pos you should check out some of the DC area agencies, I hear good things about them.

Well, I'm a Jew so I have affirmative action working in my favor.JohnG@lt wrote:
Sure, but look at the number of recruits that line up for ever class and then look at the number of active duty officers. Those cops and their union are about to get assraped too because NY is on the edge of bankruptcy. If NY goes under, expect serious shockwaves to ripple across all the counties as well.Poseidon wrote:
Salary for the SCPD with 5 years of service... over $97K. And that's base!JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah but you're talking about jobs that earn $30k a year. Construction workers make more.
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/police/recruitment.htm
I mean shit, even ATC doesn't get that high after 5 years.
I believe affirmative action in NY works with religion as well... but then again I want the job based on what I can do, not who I was born as.
I don't think it's poverty by any means to earn $97k a year but the odds of getting accepted into the police academy are tiny for such a high paying job. You would essentially have to know someone to even get looked at.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
John thinks 200K/year is povertyPoseidon wrote:
Salary for the SCPD with 5 years of service... over $97K. And that's base!JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah but you're talking about jobs that earn $30k a year. Construction workers make more.
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/police/recruitment.htm
I mean shit, even ATC doesn't get that high after 5 years.
But yeah, law enforcement pay really isn't awful. You won't live in a mansion and you probably won't drive a BMW (at least not a high-end one) but some people don't care about that. Sure I'd love to live in a huge house with a Lamborghini and a giant pool and all that, but I'd be just as happy with a humble abode that's enough for me, a wife and up to two kids and a dog. Have a pretty decent car and TV and cell phone. Hopefully be able to squirrel away enough savings to pay for at least part of the kids' college.
And I really don't want a typical 9-5 job where I know what I'm gonna be doing the next day/week/month/year/lifetime.
Pos you should check out some of the DC area agencies, I hear good things about them.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
And John that's a fair point about the number of applicants vs. accepted officers, but that applies to anything good in life. Pos could make good money as an investment banker (especially given his heritage!) but those banking firms only hire so many people. And I'd say it's even worse for things like that, what with the good ol' boys system and all that.

Not at all. There's a helluva lot more turnover in the ranks of investment bankers than there is among police officers who have a job for life and a pension coming to them at 55.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
And John that's a fair point about the number of applicants vs. accepted officers, but that applies to anything good in life. Pos could make good money as an investment banker (especially given his heritage!) but those banking firms only hire so many people. And I'd say it's even worse for things like that, what with the good ol' boys system and all that.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I'd be willing to bet that it's easier for a guy to get a job with, say, the Fairfax County PD than with Goldman Sachs.JohnG@lt wrote:
Not at all. There's a helluva lot more turnover in the ranks of investment bankers than there is among police officers who have a job for life and a pension coming to them at 55.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
And John that's a fair point about the number of applicants vs. accepted officers, but that applies to anything good in life. Pos could make good money as an investment banker (especially given his heritage!) but those banking firms only hire so many people. And I'd say it's even worse for things like that, what with the good ol' boys system and all that.

...yeah numbers really aren't my thing. I'm gonna need a tutor for college math ffs.
I have two friends that work as analysts at Goldman. They're not geniuses by any means. Fairly average actually. Long hours but the money more than makes up for it.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that it's easier for a guy to get a job with, say, the Fairfax County PD than with Goldman Sachs.JohnG@lt wrote:
Not at all. There's a helluva lot more turnover in the ranks of investment bankers than there is among police officers who have a job for life and a pension coming to them at 55.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
And John that's a fair point about the number of applicants vs. accepted officers, but that applies to anything good in life. Pos could make good money as an investment banker (especially given his heritage!) but those banking firms only hire so many people. And I'd say it's even worse for things like that, what with the good ol' boys system and all that.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Hook me up with a job?JohnG@lt wrote:
I have two friends that work as analysts at Goldman. They're not geniuses by any means. Fairly average actually. Long hours but the money more than makes up for it.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that it's easier for a guy to get a job with, say, the Fairfax County PD than with Goldman Sachs.JohnG@lt wrote:
Not at all. There's a helluva lot more turnover in the ranks of investment bankers than there is among police officers who have a job for life and a pension coming to them at 55.
Yeah... no With the death of Lehman there's still a lot of experienced people looking for work. The threat of new regulations is making them all wary of hiring as well. Threats of breaking up banks etc.ghettoperson wrote:
Hook me up with a job?JohnG@lt wrote:
I have two friends that work as analysts at Goldman. They're not geniuses by any means. Fairly average actually. Long hours but the money more than makes up for it.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that it's easier for a guy to get a job with, say, the Fairfax County PD than with Goldman Sachs.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
They don't happen to be boys of the good ol' variety eh?JohnG@lt wrote:
I have two friends that work as analysts at Goldman. They're not geniuses by any means. Fairly average actually. Long hours but the money more than makes up for it.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that it's easier for a guy to get a job with, say, the Fairfax County PD than with Goldman Sachs.JohnG@lt wrote:
Not at all. There's a helluva lot more turnover in the ranks of investment bankers than there is among police officers who have a job for life and a pension coming to them at 55.

That's just fantastic.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah... no With the death of Lehman there's still a lot of experienced people looking for work. The threat of new regulations is making them all wary of hiring as well. Threats of breaking up banks etc.ghettoperson wrote:
Hook me up with a job?JohnG@lt wrote:
I have two friends that work as analysts at Goldman. They're not geniuses by any means. Fairly average actually. Long hours but the money more than makes up for it.
Fucking jealous bottom feeders wanting to punish people who were more successful than them by having banks broken up and a bunch of regulations be set.
gah
Yes the almighty bankers have the country's best interests in mind the crisis was ALL the government's fault because of things like the Community Reinvestment Act and the bad practices of various banks had nothing to do with itMacbeth wrote:
That's just fantastic.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah... no With the death of Lehman there's still a lot of experienced people looking for work. The threat of new regulations is making them all wary of hiring as well. Threats of breaking up banks etc.ghettoperson wrote:
Hook me up with a job?
Fucking jealous bottom feeders wanting to punish people who were more successful than them by having banks broken up and a bunch of regulations be set.
gah

Honestly I don't have any ill will towards the bankers who sold people all sorts of dubious loans. I really blame the people who were too fucking stupid to realize they couldn't make payments on the mortgages they were taking out or the people who just generally just living beyond their means.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Yes the almighty bankers have the country's best interests in mind the crisis was ALL the government's fault because of things like the Community Reinvestment Act and the bad practices of various banks had nothing to do with itMacbeth wrote:
That's just fantastic.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah... no With the death of Lehman there's still a lot of experienced people looking for work. The threat of new regulations is making them all wary of hiring as well. Threats of breaking up banks etc.
Fucking jealous bottom feeders wanting to punish people who were more successful than them by having banks broken up and a bunch of regulations be set.
gah
FFS I knew when I was 12 that you shouldn't take out a variable rate mortgage, how anyone could feel sympathy for such idiots is beyond me.
Not at all. One's a Brit I went to high school with and the other is an Italian kid from Long Island. Neither had an 'in', they just went to college for a degree in finance, interned, and got the job.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
They don't happen to be boys of the good ol' variety eh?JohnG@lt wrote:
I have two friends that work as analysts at Goldman. They're not geniuses by any means. Fairly average actually. Long hours but the money more than makes up for it.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that it's easier for a guy to get a job with, say, the Fairfax County PD than with Goldman Sachs.
The Brit went to Boston College, the other went to Quinnipiac. Oddly, they're both named Matt
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Yeah, I'm with you on this. No one put a gun to their head and told them they had to sign off on the mortgage. Anyone with half a brain knew that the price of houses was way out of line with reality. Hell, I told my mom to sell her home two years ago when it was near the peak but she chickened out.Macbeth wrote:
Honestly I don't have any ill will towards the bankers who sold people all sorts of dubious loans. I really blame the people who were too fucking stupid to realize they couldn't make payments on the mortgages they were taking out or the people who just generally just living beyond their means.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Yes the almighty bankers have the country's best interests in mind the crisis was ALL the government's fault because of things like the Community Reinvestment Act and the bad practices of various banks had nothing to do with itMacbeth wrote:
That's just fantastic.
Fucking jealous bottom feeders wanting to punish people who were more successful than them by having banks broken up and a bunch of regulations be set.
gah
FFS I knew when I was 12 that you shouldn't take out a variable rate mortgage, how anyone could feel sympathy for such idiots is beyond me.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
But why give out a loan that people can't pay back?Macbeth wrote:
Honestly I don't have any ill will towards the bankers who sold people all sorts of dubious loans. I really blame the people who were too fucking stupid to realize they couldn't make payments on the mortgages they were taking out or the people who just generally just living beyond their means.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Yes the almighty bankers have the country's best interests in mind the crisis was ALL the government's fault because of things like the Community Reinvestment Act and the bad practices of various banks had nothing to do with itMacbeth wrote:
That's just fantastic.
Fucking jealous bottom feeders wanting to punish people who were more successful than them by having banks broken up and a bunch of regulations be set.
gah
FFS I knew when I was 12 that you shouldn't take out a variable rate mortgage, how anyone could feel sympathy for such idiots is beyond me.
