Another Mobo+Cpu thread :)

2010-02-10 14:51:48

#1

zeidmaan: Member; +234|6674|Vienna

I know there are plenty of these already, but everyone has their own budget and preferences, so please halp
Sorry about the wall of text

So, I'm retiring my old Athlon 2Ghz and with it the old 939 socket motherboard and I'm looking for a combo to replace it.
Budget is 150 € MAX (I'm a poor (legal) immigrant working illegally for scraps)

--- CPU ---

First it was a choice between Dual Cores:

Intel Dual Core E6600 2x 3.0GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … re%20E6600

I can get it for about 75€ so its in the budget.

Now for roughly the same price I can also get a Dual Core Phenom 2x 3.0 GHz.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 20X2%20545

So it was a decision between Phenom 2x 3.0GHz and E6600 2x 3.0GHz.

If that was the final choice I would probably go for the Intel since reviews and famous sites all favor Intel slightly, but it gets more interesting. For the same price (~75 €) I can get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product

Its a Athlon II Quad Core, 4x 2.6 GHz

Intel may be better, and AthlonII doesn't have L3 cash but its still Quad-Core and according to tomshardware.com and Overclockers it can be upped to ~3.0 GHz with stock cooler if I decide to OC it.

-- To sum it up ---

I'm confused about roughly the same price since 75 - 80€ can get me :

1. Intel Pentium E6600 3.06GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual-Core
2. AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Dual-Core
3. AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Quad-Core

What say you? Oh and other suggestions are fine, just keep it cheap.

-- MOBOs ---

I havent settled on one if I pick E6600 or some other Intel (could use a recommendation), but for both AMDs I think this one is good:

GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … A770%20UD3

As far as I know its compatible with both of my choices. It can take AM3 processors and DDR2 RAM (very important since I have 4 GB of DDR2) and It has 1xPATA(IDE) - also important since my HD and DVD are both PATA.

Correct me if I'm wrong and feel free to recommend something else entirely.

ps.
I have a ATI Radeon x1950 Pro and 600W PSU

Thanks, will check in after a shave

2010-02-10 15:07:29

#2

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Might as well go LGA 1156 since it would lead to a better upgrade path

https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png

2010-02-10 15:13:35

#3

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6047|Catherine Black

Cybargs wrote:
Might as well go LGA 1156 since it would lead to a better upgrade path

This.

And a quad-core might seem more apealing, but a faster dual core will fare better with games than a slower quad core.

2010-02-10 15:14:09

#4

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6673|Finland

Finray wrote:
And a quad-core might seem more apealing, but a faster dual core will fare better with games than a slower quad core.

No...

Not anymore.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-02-10 15:14:26)

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2010-02-10 15:18:37

#5

jaymz9350: Member; +54|6836

Cybargs wrote:
Might as well go LGA 1156 since it would lead to a better upgrade path

If you can find a way to get that in his budget yes but you probably can't get 2 of the 3 components (RAM, CPU, motherboard) needed in his budget.

2010-02-10 15:21:58

#6

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6047|Catherine Black

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Finray wrote:
And a quad-core might seem more apealing, but a faster dual core will fare better with games than a slower quad core.
No...

Not anymore.

Well not since CPU-raping BC2 came out. But isn't the only game that really supports quad core Crysis?

2010-02-10 15:27:59

#7

FloppY_: +1,010|6545|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

i5 750 + intel P55

tbh

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-10 15:28:17

#8

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6673|Finland

Finray wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Finray wrote:
And a quad-core might seem more apealing, but a faster dual core will fare better with games than a slower quad core.
No...

Not anymore.
Well not since CPU-raping BC2 came out. But isn't the only game that really supports quad core Crysis?

Crysis and its exansion
Supreme Commander
BC2
GTA IV
COD: MW2

List goes on...

And anything new coming out will favor heavily 4 cores.

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2010-02-10 15:33:23

#9

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6047|Catherine Black

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Finray wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

No...

Not anymore.
Well not since CPU-raping BC2 came out. But isn't the only game that really supports quad core Crysis?
Crysis and its exansion
Supreme Commander
BC2
GTA IV
COD: MW2

List goes on...

And anything new coming out will favor heavily 4 cores.

Crysis is a benchmark.
Sup Com, yeah I'll give you that.
BC2 is still in Beta and only just getting released, so yeah.
Who the fuck plays GTA IV on PC?
I sincerely doubt IW tried to improve PC performance, at all.

2010-02-10 15:35:36

#10

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6673|Finland

Finray wrote:
Crysis is a benchmark.
Sup Com, yeah I'll give you that.
BC2 is still in Beta and only just getting released, so yeah.
Who the fuck plays GTA IV on PC?
I sincerely doubt IW tried to improve PC performance, at all.

Get a quad and see yourself. Then you don't have to doubt anything.

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2010-02-10 15:35:36

#11

FloppY_: +1,010|6545|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Finray wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Finray wrote:

Well not since CPU-raping BC2 came out. But isn't the only game that really supports quad core Crysis?
Crysis and its exansion
Supreme Commander
BC2
GTA IV
COD: MW2

List goes on...

And anything new coming out will favor heavily 4 cores.
Crysis is a benchmark.
Sup Com, yeah I'll give you that.
BC2 is still in Beta and only just getting released, so yeah.
Who the fuck plays GTA IV on PC?
I sincerely doubt IW tried to improve PC performance, at all.

Crysis is a great game
GTA IV was poorly optimized for PC, I played it there since I will never get a console nor games for same..

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-10 15:36:48

#12

FloppY_: +1,010|6545|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Finray wrote:
Crysis is a benchmark.
Sup Com, yeah I'll give you that.
BC2 is still in Beta and only just getting released, so yeah.
Who the fuck plays GTA IV on PC?
I sincerely doubt IW tried to improve PC performance, at all.
Get a quad and see yourself. Then you don't have to doubt anything.

Hehe, this made me think of:

https://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac171/mdsx1950/320px-Gruntredesign.png

"Get a quad" hehe.. get it?.. heh...

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-10 15:36:48

#13

zeidmaan: Member; +234|6674|Vienna

jaymz9350 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Might as well go LGA 1156 since it would lead to a better upgrade path
If you can find a way to get that in his budget yes but you probably can't get 2 of the 3 components (RAM, CPU, motherboard) needed in his budget.

true, its over budget. It must be a DDR2 motherboard. And Im not too worried about further upgrades.

Finray wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Finray wrote:
And a quad-core might seem more apealing, but a faster dual core will fare better with games than a slower quad core.
No...

Not anymore.
Well not since CPU-raping BC2 came out. But isn't the only game that really supports quad core Crysis?

My thinking was that with Quad Cores becomming more widespred and more affordable - its the way of the future...

2010-02-10 15:37:49

#14

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6047|Catherine Black

zeidmaan wrote:
jaymz9350 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
Might as well go LGA 1156 since it would lead to a better upgrade path
If you can find a way to get that in his budget yes but you probably can't get 2 of the 3 components (RAM, CPU, motherboard) needed in his budget.
true, its over budget. It must be a DDR2 motherboard. And Im not too worried about further upgrades.

Finray wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

No...

Not anymore.
Well not since CPU-raping BC2 came out. But isn't the only game that really supports quad core Crysis?
My thinking was that with Quad Cores becomming more widespred and more affordable - its the way of the future...

Yes, I suppose they are going that way. But not 775. 1556 is where it's going.

2010-02-10 15:39:09

#15

FloppY_: +1,010|6545|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

I still don't get why intel had to seperate the i5 and i7

We've had LGA775 for ages now, and they release two near-identical processors right after eachother but with different sockets x_x

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-10 15:40:04

#16

zeidmaan: Member; +234|6674|Vienna

FloppY_ wrote:
i5 750 + intel P55

tbh

unfortunately I wasn't kidding about being poor

2010-02-10 15:40:06

#17

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6673|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
I still don't get why intel had to seperate the i5 and i7

We've had LGA775 for ages now, and they release two near-identical processors right after eachother but with different sockets x_x

Actually, there are a lot differences under the hood. A lot.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-02-10 15:40:29)

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2010-02-10 15:41:54

#18

FloppY_: +1,010|6545|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

zeidmaan wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
i5 750 + intel P55

tbh
unfortunately I wasn't kidding about being poor

I don't know about your prices... but here those two are so cheap you can barely get anything new at lower prices...

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-10 15:43:00

#19

FloppY_: +1,010|6545|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
I still don't get why intel had to seperate the i5 and i7

We've had LGA775 for ages now, and they release two near-identical processors right after eachother but with different sockets x_x
Actually, there are a lot differences under the hood. A lot.

somehow I knew you'd post this.. but you follow me right? they could've stuck to one socket for their customers sake, upgrading has been easy the past years with everything using the same socket

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2010-02-10 15:46:14

#20

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6673|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
I still don't get why intel had to seperate the i5 and i7

We've had LGA775 for ages now, and they release two near-identical processors right after eachother but with different sockets x_x
Actually, there are a lot differences under the hood. A lot.
somehow I knew you'd post this.. but you follow me right? they could've stuck to one socket for their customers sake, upgrading has been easy the past years with everything using the same socket

It just is physically impossible to use the architechtures on same socket. Sure they could have designed both to work on same socket with same base logic, but intel thinks like greedy and smart businessman, sell more motherboards = profit.

To OP: I think that Athlon II X4 will be ok, you could get a better cooler and overclock it for massive boost too. Board is ok'ish, no more, no less.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-02-10 15:46:56)

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2010-02-10 16:52:50

#21

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
I still don't get why intel had to seperate the i5 and i7

We've had LGA775 for ages now, and they release two near-identical processors right after eachother but with different sockets x_x
Actually, there are a lot differences under the hood. A lot.
somehow I knew you'd post this.. but you follow me right? they could've stuck to one socket for their customers sake, upgrading has been easy the past years with everything using the same socket

i7's have intergrated memory thingy and i5's don't right? Coz that's why I see i5 mobos supporting DDR2 and 3 as well =/

2010-02-10 16:58:39

#22

jaymz9350: Member; +54|6836

Cybargs wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Actually, there are a lot differences under the hood. A lot.
somehow I knew you'd post this.. but you follow me right? they could've stuck to one socket for their customers sake, upgrading has been easy the past years with everything using the same socket
i7's have intergrated memory thingy and i5's don't right? Coz that's why I see i5 mobos supporting DDR2 and 3 as well =/

better get your eyes checked, 1156 is also DDR3 only with an integrated mem controller.

2010-02-10 17:06:53

#23

csmag: Member; +92|6706|Canada

If you wanna cheap out and still be able to upgrade get a cheap athlon II and an am3 board so youll be more future proof than on a socket 775 board.

2010-02-10 18:18:08

#24

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

jaymz9350 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:

somehow I knew you'd post this.. but you follow me right? they could've stuck to one socket for their customers sake, upgrading has been easy the past years with everything using the same socket
i7's have intergrated memory thingy and i5's don't right? Coz that's why I see i5 mobos supporting DDR2 and 3 as well =/
better get your eyes checked, 1156 is also DDR3 only with an integrated mem controller.

Shit I forgot =/ But 1156 only does dual channel instead of triple right?

2010-02-10 18:24:18

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jaymz9350: Member; +54|6836

Cybargs wrote:
jaymz9350 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

i7's have intergrated memory thingy and i5's don't right? Coz that's why I see i5 mobos supporting DDR2 and 3 as well =/
better get your eyes checked, 1156 is also DDR3 only with an integrated mem controller.
Shit I forgot =/ But 1156 only does dual channel instead of triple right?

correct, but as far as I know triple has little advantage in most apps.

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