Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria
For those of you not familar with this tactic, HALO stands for High Altituted, Low Opening. This is a VERY effective squad tactic and makes THE single most use of the squad leader fuctions, albeit the squadlead USUALLY won't get any points when they do this, but remember this is a team game.

Ever since the blackhawk has been nerfed, I keep finding the damn things sitting around unused everywhere. THIS IS A TRAVESTY. The blackhawk is not supposed to be a flying widowmaker. Its called a TRANSPORT helicopter for a reason. Its most effective at transporting troops over great distances in a very short time.

To make the most utility of this great feature in a game that has been recently tailored to HATE choppers, The most effective strategy is simply to take the chopper out of the range of enemy fire.

To start, the pilot must make himself squadleader. BE PREPARED TO NOT EARN MANY POINTS. The round I first did this, I recieved no points, no teampoints, no kills, and no deaths. You are sacrificing your score for you team wins. However, I find this an effective means to gain WCR too.

Once you have made yourself squadleader, hop in a blackhawk and start to rise. I find this is best done of maps with no jets, but with a comptent team and decent skills, you shouldn't have too much of a problem. Rise up to about 500 FT. At this altitude, you are pretty much goddamn invicible. Jets can't manuever well for a kill at this height and there's no chance of stinger missles up here.

Once gain the 500 ft altitude, begin to move your chopper over an enemy flag. Try not to drop below 450 feet, as it could be dangerous. Once your over the flag, steady your chopper, radio in to you commander to ask for support and radio your squad and tell them to spawn. Once they spawn, let them jump out. Make sure to be level, or you risk teamkilling with the chopper. Its not too hard.


FOR THE JUMPERS

Don't spawn on the squadleader until he makes to to the flag. There's no point in spawning right away in case he snuffs it before getting there. Once he's there, spawn and jump. Try to make the best use of a kit. So obviously if you expect Armor, don't all go sniper.

The first thing you'll notice? 500 ft is DAMN high up. Here's the trick. With BF2, there is no cutoff for chute opening, so try and do it no sooner then perhaps ten feet from the ground. The longer your in a chute, the better chance you have of being hit. Ten feet is just like jumping off a small building at Karkand and should work solong as you spam the "9" key.

Also, don't forget that you have some air control while falling, so try and move a bit closer to your objective during your fall. Also, if for example you are a sniper and if you open your chute early you could get on a tall, otherwise unaccessable building, go for it.

Another useful thing to note, if you notice you going to hit an empty vehicle on the way down, forget the parachute, just hold down "E". If you touch an empty vehicle while hitting the "use" key, you'll instantly enter it, no damage. Its nice to spawn, jump, and land in an enemy tank.

One last thing to remember, if you die, wait for the rest of your squad in the blackhawk, jump as a team. You won't be nearly as effective if you do it alone.

Thats all troops.

Last edited by Elamdri (2006-04-24 10:49:10)

eagles1106
Member
+269|7055|Marlton, New Jersey.
Thank you but I already do that...
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

eagles1106 wrote:

Thank you but I already do that...
Thats kewl, but I know not everyone does. Everytime I see the blackhawk sitting unused on Mashtuur, i just wanna spit in disgust. I just want people who don't already know about this to realize they have other options when it comes to transport choppers.
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,058|7093|Little Bentcock
Yeh ive been doin it 4 awhile but damn its effective, I usuall go as support so I always drop some ammo down b4 i jump, so if there is Armour, i dont have 2 rune around resupplying all the AT guys they juz pick it up themselves
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria
Sometimes I have one of my guys go Spec Ops and toss C4 out before everyone jumps. Once we figure they've had enough time to fall, we blow them and them everyone jumps. We got a tank once doing that.

I just wish I could have seen the look on that guy's face when he got blown up by 25 C4 packets.

Last edited by Elamdri (2006-04-23 22:02:12)

Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria
I've also noticed that your pretty much safe from arty when doing this, I've been in the middle of like 8 arty strikes and never been touched.
XstrangerdangerX
conversation is combat
+36|7100|Tasmania
It's a good tactic, you just have to hoe for a patient and teamplaying squad leader.

A rarity on pubs, sadly.
CoconutBlitz
I've had the diarrheas since Easters
+145|7060|California U.S.A
Also some newer players might not realize you can use your kit weapons while chute is deployed your accuracy sucks though...
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

It's a good tactic, you just have to hoe for a patient and teamplaying squad leader.

A rarity on pubs, sadly.
yeah, mostly because the pilot gets no points. When we do it, another clanmate and I switch between piloting and jumping. That way we get large scores one round and then no score the next, so it balances.

Also, although yes you can shoot while parachuting, I wouldn't advise it, as the point of the HALO jump is to spend almost 99.9 percent of the jump in freefall, with the last 2 seconds in a chute, sorta like jumping off a small wall in karkand. The reason behind this is that the longer your in a chute, the more suceptible you are to snipers and Mounted MG.
RedneckSloth
Member
+12|7065|MI
I used to do that in the spawn chopper in BF Vietnam all the time. But haven't tryed it in BF2 yet. Great tip.
mporlier
Member
+42|7111|Montreal, Canada
To rafine your tactic, we do that some times with friends. All jump at once, aim for the flag, land and Boom. It takes 10 seconds to cap it. If you are lucky the squad leader can land, pick you up and off you go to cap one more flag.
lynxlyran
Member
+15|7115
A little navigation help too.

When you first jump out, use the mini-map and get yourself lined up with the target objective for the fall. When you get lined up, it will be easier to find the obective as you fall toward it. It all happens pretty fast and if your pointing the wrong way at the start it can be a long hike back to the objective.

If you look straight down, you will fall just about straight down. If you look towards the horizon, you will fly like superman and can cover a lot of ground in a short time. A short time is all you have because unlike superman, you will still be falling.

Like the poster above said, if it looks like your going to fall onto a vehicle hold "E" instead of opening the chute.
Otherwise, wait until you are almost about to hit, then hit "9" and land on the flag. What a rush!

The really funny part is when you accidently have your finger on the "8" key - SPLAT
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|7247|UK
"Did someone call me?"
https://www.halobabies.net/artwork/sketches/img/marines/05_10_04_masterchiefcolored.gif
Ugaminor
Member
+21|7144
My squadies used to do this pre 1.2 on Mashtuur when on MEC.  I would pilot the MEC transpo high and hover over the South Gas Station spawn where the BH would spawn.  It was the only effective way of denying USMC of the BH, no landing pad or spawn = eventually no BH (well after a determined effort to blow it out of the sky). 

Did this once as MEC on Operation Clan Swap.  I just hovered over the USMC base while my squadies spawned and base raped.  One squadie was able to boost their BH and the another the AH-1Z.  We proceeded to fly to the MEC airfield with the USMC had capped and tear them down with the BH gunship and Cobra.  It was good times and we won.  Of course with the BH nerfed now that would almost be impossible.

Good post.  I agree that this tactic is not used nearly enough. 
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

Milk.org wrote:

"Did someone call me?"
http://www.halobabies.net/artwork/sketc … olored.gif
LOL


Depending on the map, and the skill of the pilot, sometimes its worthwhile to dip down and pick up your boys, but on some of the more AA laiden maps, its better just to let them hike to their next objective and then meet them there in case they die. And the speed in which you cap the flags is indeed incredible.
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|7168|Germany
Hmm,I do HALO jumping since BF1942,my parachute time in BF2 is quite low because of that too.

Does this "holding E-key"-trick still work with passing jets?
In BF1942 I could stand on the runway and hold down E and my buddy would pick me up with the Stuka with just a quick flyby,in BF2 I wasn't able to test it yet...the gunner's seat is occupied most of the time anyway.

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-04-25 09:58:58)

HeavyMetalDave
Metal Godz
+107|7128|California
Good Luck finding someone who plays this game but doesnt want points.

Its not gonna happen.

BlackHawk HA  its just a fat slow taxi. Poop!
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

HeavyMetalDave wrote:

Good Luck finding someone who plays this game but doesnt want points.

Its not gonna happen.

BlackHawk HA  its just a fat slow taxi. Poop!
Thats the reason for the switching man. You take turns.
lynxlyran
Member
+15|7115
The "E" key would work on a passing jet if there is room (bomber) and it is friendly.

I've jumped mid air from the BH to the attack chopper to be a gunner.

Imagine jumping into the UAV and taking it for a "spin".
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

lynxlyran wrote:

The "E" key would work on a passing jet if there is room (bomber) and it is friendly.

I've jumped mid air from the BH to the attack chopper to be a gunner.

Imagine jumping into the UAV and taking it for a "spin".
Yeah, very "Flying High" esque.
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Does this "holding E-key"-trick still work with passing jets?
I would assume, its the same principle as, um, lets say a Vodnik is coming at you full speed, you hold down, E, and you get into it, rather than get run over. However, you would have to work on timing to hit the plane in mid air during a freefall.
ViP.ShooTa
Member
+6|7221
this movie ( not amazing quality )
comes from our army practice on mashtuur - note the HUD mini map - watch those dotes shift

found here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 6772779170

you will need to click on the full screen button and then click/drag to resize it to about half to actually get good graphics ..
MaddOps
Who the hell elected you leader of this outfit?
+55|7068

XstrangerdangerX wrote:

It's a good tactic, you just have to hoe for a patient and teamplaying squad leader.

A rarity on pubs, sadly.
I'm not hoeing for any squad leader.

But on a practical point, I am a pretty decent pilot for the BlackHawk and would be more than willing to fly for a HALO Crew.  I'm usually on the Just4Fun Clan Server from 8 Central Time to 11 or 12 Central.

I'd be more than happy with the flight time and I've gotten pretty good at pinpoint landings as of late so maybe I can try the drop and pickup tactic.  If anyone wants to practice I'll be more than happy to fly for you.

MaddOps
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|7156
If you are gonna enter a tank or humwee just try to land at the side, coming straight at the top is not recommended. But have only done this once, but then the leader was just howering right over the flag far far up in sky, but travel that fast by air o.O. Still fun to see the land come closer
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria
I think this weekend we're going to work on perfecting stuff like HALO jumping to get vehicles and stuff. Be nice to maybe HALO jump on wake and steal a jet or tank. Or even, have the gunner HALO jump out of the attack chopper and steal the enemy chopper on Sharqi.

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